idfk man I don't read the books anymore I basically treat Prophecies Begin-Omen of the stars and timelines that fit within as the main canon stuff ๐ฑ he/him/his๐ฑ18+
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high-key, i really. do not like this fandom. i love the books, i love interacting with other artists, but the fans are so. stupid? Everywhere you look, it's just "you cant like him! hes whiny and a misogynist!" "you cant ship that! hes like way older than her!" "you cant write that! thats too much gore, these are kids books!" "you cant draw that! theres minors here!" it feels like nobody has the concept of "Ah, other people DON'T have to believe the same things that I do, and they can do their own thing outside of my little bubble".
I understand, anon. This fandom is full of people who see things as black and white, despite the books not always portraying things the same way. Perhaps it's because the books cater to a young audience and the current fandom is predominantly 13โ30 year olds, but the fans with the most time to commit to social media are 13โ20? Or perhaps it's because of how the fandom has shifted to look at the books with basic analysis without considering nuance and more.
Fortunately, there are areas of the fandom that have been carved out which avoids this โ largely, at least.
Antis like to say that this is a fandom for children without realising that the books started coming out 20 years ago, so many fans are 20โ30. They've had time to love these books, to experience nostalgia, to explore more. They've been through the FanClans of forums, pet sites, and social media. They've come to terms with the world not being black and white. It's not good or evil, it never has been.
As much as the books do occasionally focus on the idea of good Vs evil, there's always been grey morality. There's always been nuance.
I hope the fandom shifts more to consider that and stops the current purity parade.
I hope you, and others, can carve out the safe parts of fandom that caters for you, anon.
Also, please do enjoy whatever you want. Your favourite character can be basic or can be a complicated mess. Your ships can be whatever you want. Your writing can contain whatever you want. You can draw whatever you want.
As long as it's properly tagged, it's the responsibility of the viewer or guest to block liberally and avoid it. Tumblr's community labels make this easier than ever for creators, at least.
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If Blog A is a sideblog of Blog C, then Blog C will still be able to see Blogs B and D, they just can't reblog to Blog A; to fully prevent the chance of interaction, both Blogs A and C need to be blocked. Blog D will not be protected by any blocks you make for your main on Blog B; all sideblogs need to have blocks manually added to them
when i block a blog (blog A) on my main blog (blog B), will that blog (blog A) or, if applicable, its main blog (blog C) be able to see my blog (blog B) or any side blogs i have (blog D)?
I have no idea! Anyone have any answers for anon?
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[id: A drawing of Firestar and Tigerstar together. Firestar is a ginger cat with a love heart marking on his shoulder. His outline is white and there are sparkles around him to symbolise that he's in StarClan. He looks sad. He's facing Tigerstar, a dark brown tabby with a red outline, who also looks sad. Tigerstar's head is bent down towards him. /end ID]
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[id: A comic of two panels featuring Lionblaze and Ashfur.
In the first panel, Lionblaze is smaller than Ashfur, and they have a conversation. Lionblaze says, "I'm going to marry you!" Ashfur replies, "Oh?" Lionblaze says, "When I'm a warrior, yes."
In the second panel, Lionblaze is bigger than Ashfur. He says, "So?" Ashfur is blushing. /end ID]
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To the IvyHawk anon, what I love about this ship is just how flexible it is! You can make it dark, twisted, and Phantom of the Opera-esque...but you can also have a story where Ivy inspires (not necessarily in an "I can change him" way- more *he* makes the decision) to be better. And I think that's really interesting!
Delayed but yes!! Yes that's exactly what I love about it too!
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People who ship to cope is valid
People who ship for fun is valid too ๐บ๐ธ๐บ
Don't let people tell you what you can and can't do in fiction ๐โญ
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Warrior cats antis will get mad and be like โU canโt ship Toebean Thunderbolt x Whiskers Swordblade!!!โ And u look at the picture and itโs just two weirdly buff cats staring at each other
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y'all, she supports us :3
but srsly, she loves firestar even tho they got a big agegap and if anyone comes after me, I will be blunt that 95% of y'all ship mothwing and leafpool and that's also problematics so i refuse to hear it
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they're finally turning on their own ships
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Mothpool shippers are so valid <3
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am i the only person who finds it really disrespectful and rude to use people's designs for proship stuff when theyve made it cleat that they dont want that? like, even if theyre an anti? idk im probably thinking too hard on it, but i thought the whole point of being proship is respecting boundaries. /not mad
I got this ask and I was on the fence of yes/no and then I found a little more where the creator of the designs really does explicitly ask that they're not used for such things. You're right.
So there's a thing, I was under the assumption this was a general "proshippers DNI" kind of situation, in which case I think that spitefully using someone's designs when they don't want interactions isn't strictly against the DNI, but is still an asshole move. But I understand why someone would do it.
But someone explicitly stating that their designs are not to be used for something in particular and then using their designs anyway IS horrible. I understand why people do it and I do want to acknowledge that it's not, as anything, a black/white situation, though it is probably dark grey morality-wise.
(Personally, I wouldn't do it, and I'm glad we now have something of a list of proshippers whose designs are publicly okay for proshippers to use!)
But also the reason I say that when it comes to a DNI I'm not against it per say, but I can still see it as an asshole move, is because there are antis who claim their designs are free to use with credit while also saying proshippers DNI. There are also neutral people who say that their designs are free to use with credit and there is a hesitation in people to use those in case that person turns out to be an anti.
But, to get to the point, you're right anon. We should respect boundaries, and while I think it's generally better to avoid people who have proshippers in their DNI (provided you can actually see that DNI and it isn't hidden), I understand why some people don't. However, for people who are explicitly uncomfortable with proshippers using their designs, please respect this and look for alternatives.
Request your fellow proshippers to draw your favourite cats! Help boost them by sharing their designs!
Respect everyone, regardless of their placement in any discourse, even if that respect is simply blocking and ignoring them.
#this conundrum is actually why I'm open to making designs#I was so unsure if I could *actually use* so and so's design without crossing some boundary#and then like 8/10 of the design blogs are pro ship dni#so I was like 'well I can draw so.'
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bramblehawk is a valid ship and you can enjoy it any way you want to
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we also think this discourse is just. incredibly harmful to be in as a teen. like. fundamentally, if i can give you all some unsolicited advice, please don't get involved in this shit as a teen. it's not good for your brain. constantly stressing about if something is "okay," the need to justify your opinions, the black and white thinking...it's not good for your brain. neither is putting yourself in at high risk for harassment, btw. we firmly believe that teens (especially young teens) should not be involved in this discourse at all. it's not that you can't/shouldn't have an opinion, because you totally can. but we don't think you should be making discourse blogs, arguing w people online, etc., nor should you be constantly worried about defending your interests.
save that for when you're older.
#I was floating in anti discourse from 13-17 and it has messed me up#I can't imagine floating in it from the pro ship side is any better. discourse is discourse and it's a big stressor#that's a way to keep yourself on defense 24/7 to be sure
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we also think this discourse is just. incredibly harmful to be in as a teen. like. fundamentally, if i can give you all some unsolicited advice, please don't get involved in this shit as a teen. it's not good for your brain. constantly stressing about if something is "okay," the need to justify your opinions, the black and white thinking...it's not good for your brain. neither is putting yourself in at high risk for harassment, btw. we firmly believe that teens (especially young teens) should not be involved in this discourse at all. it's not that you can't/shouldn't have an opinion, because you totally can. but we don't think you should be making discourse blogs, arguing w people online, etc., nor should you be constantly worried about defending your interests.
save that for when you're older.
#I was floating in anti discourse from 13-17 and it has messed me up#I can't imagine floating in it from the pro ship side is any better. discourse is discourse and it's a big stressor#that's a way to keep yourself on defense 24/7 to be sure
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darkstripe WOULD be an anti. he tried to murder a child, that's right in line with them
#that's what i was saying#i saw that drawing and said#'oh yes these are the standards the child murderer has how nice'
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