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OMG what mclennon secret meeting evidence? I need to know you can't leave me hanging like this
Yay thank you for asking!
Carl Perkins says so.
Carl is recounting something Linda told him here, after Paul's emotional reaction to Carl's song 'my old friend.' "we stopped by the Dakota about three weeks I believe she said before John died something like that". -- 1996
James McCartney remembers seeing John at the Dakota.
"I know John held me as a baby. Then I have memories of the Dakota building, very white, lots of sunlight pouring in" -- 2012. James was born in 77. Most people don't remember anything before two years old. So at the earliest, he must've been in John's apartment in 79.
They had studio time booked.
When John died, Paul actually got the news from a radio broadcaster named Richard Skinner. He was too upset to go on the air (obviously) but he talked privately with the guy. "we talked about John, and we talked about plans that he tells me he and John had to get together and to try and write music together again. That would've been happening that December. But the studio they'd wanted to use was booked out so they didn't work together and they were going to meet together in the new year." Going back into the studio to write and record was a huge step and would've been scary for both of them, scary enough that I seriously doubt they would've had the courage to set that up. Unless! They were spending frequent quality happy time together and they both felt like they were in a good place in the relationship.
Like everything else, it's in their music.
The lyrics of "(Just Like) Starting Over" are about rekindling an old flame with a romantic getaway. He talks about screwing someone in a motel in Montauk and doing it in the road and staying in bed with the walrus. The lyrics of the chorus are a triple Paul reference. "It's time to spread our WINGS and fly. Don't let ANOTHER DAY go by MY LOVE." The main melody comes from a beach boys song, and he's got Elvis affects on his voice. None of those musical choices were made for Yoko's benefit.
Then there's, along with "Coming Up", Paul's side of things. "Secret Friend": For most repetitions of the chorus, he says "feel like you've never felt before" but the first time he sneaks in "feel like you've never FIT before," which can only be referencing a dick, especially if he's being that coy about it. "Cast adrift on some uncharted sea" -- John's constant nautical metaphors, calling Paul his boat, his recent solo sea voyage. "I know we'll find a way. I know we'll reach the end. If you will be my secret friend." I mean. And then "Nobody Knows".
btw couldn't have found the Carl Perkins thing without Jazz! TYSM @sleeper9
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Tangents, December 1966 cover - Tangents was a grassroots gay US magazine that was born from One
John wearing a different version of a 'Down With Pants' pin 😌
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Martin: How did the idea for “Two Of Us” come to you? Did you first of all have an idea to write a film about an aspect of the Beatles - and then arrive at this particular story? Did you start out by wanting to write about the dynamic of John and Paul - and then arrive at this place? Or was this specific story your very first thought?
Mark: I wanted to do something creative with all this ‘useless knowledge’ that I had accumulated over the years, as a sort of purging and also as a kind of tribute, a way of saying thanks. Initially, I thought about writing a biography, but there have been so many. I think it was the conceit that I had some kind of unique insight into the dynamic between John and Paul that really got me started. And I would see these interviews with Paul where, whenever they asked him about John, everything would shift -- his face, his tone of voice. I would watch him and think, "My God, he really loved John, and he hasn't gotten over losing him."
Martin: Did you have an idea of what ground you wanted to cover? i.e. what factual topics you wanted each person to cover. And what emotional terrain you would want each of them to cover?
Mark: I knew that John's painful childhood would play an enormous role in the way I portrayed him, that he would be seen as never having completely come to terms with being unwanted. And I knew that I wanted to get across how much Paul really loved and understood John, which, I believe, is what frightened John.
Martin: Your original script ended with “Here Today” (Paul McCartney’s 1982 tribute song to John) being played - though you were subsequently unable to obtain permission for its use. If there had been total access from the Beatles for their recordings and their publishers for their music - would you have wanted to feature other music by them - and by John and Paul individually? If so - what specifically would you have wanted to use? And to underscore which points in the film?
Mark: It would have been nice to have "Silly Love Songs" in there, since that kind of summed up where Paul was at back then. The song that I kept coming back to, though, as I was writing, was "Jealous Guy". I'm practically convinced that John actually wrote that song for Paul. Whether he knew it or not.
Martin: Were you ever thinking that this might be regarded as a heresy to postulate history? Not just Beatles history - but postulating history with any real-life characters. Did you actively think about any of the precedents in the literary and dramatic tradition where real-life persons have been portrayed? And more particularly about works which have not just depicted known events - but have speculated about things that MIGHT have happened?
Mark: I didn't give it a lot of thought. Certainly it's been done before, from Shakespeare through something like "Melvin and Howard." And, more recently, in films like "Gods and Monsters". "Shakespeare in Love", for that matter.
Beatles historian Martin Lewis interviews Mark Stanfield, screenwriter of Two of Us (2000)
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there’s a lot of bullshit lennon/mccartney quotes out there, misattributed by biases in biographers or straight-up fabrications. but there’s also “if i was a girl”. there’s also “if he had been a woman”. there’s also “is this a self-portrait?” there’s “in bed.” there’s “maybe that would’ve satisfied it”. there’s “nothing to worry about”, and “life begins at 40”, and “it’s only me.” there’s “the emperor of eternity”. “he chose me.” “i’m still in love with you”. there’s “i can always deny that it was ever written about him.” so who cares
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you know how being songwriting partners is like marriage and songwriting is like sex and making an album is like being pregnant and songs are like your children. i don't even have anything to add to this it's just like. ok! yeah! what more can any of us do with this? you said it, man. sure!
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John Lennon during rehearsals for Thank Your Lucky Stars at Alpha Television Studios in Birmingham, England | 28 March 1965
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Had to do a little thing for mclennon monday
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i’ll find you in every lifetime (threat)
#this killed me#i loved all the analogies#the cain and abel one!!!!!!!!¡!!!#oh my god#fanart#the beatles
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The Sunday Times: ‘John Lennon, Paul McCartney and the grief that United two lost teens’
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Various pauline doodles I've drawn over the course of a couple months (slow ik). Think I've had my fill 😭
Zoom in on strawberry fields paul 'cos it's my fav out of the bunch
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honestly im a paulgirl because i relate to john so much but. im like if john and paul had a baby and called it attachment issues
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Classy John in his(and Yoko's) fur coats💅🥂
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