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carmen face with claire all the s5 :

minute later , with syd :

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sydney song of the alleyway fight (and maybe s5) :

hot n cold by katy perry :

dear carmen this song is for you :

You change your mind like a girl changes clothes Yeah, you PMS like a bitch, I would know And you overthink, always speak cryptically I should know that you're no good for me

'Cause you're hot, then you're cold You're yes, then you're no You're in, then you're out You're up, then you're down You're wrong when it's right It's black, and it's white We fight, we break up We kiss, we make up

you don't really wanna stay, no (You) but you don't really wanna go, oh

You're hot, then you're cold You're yes, then you're no You're in, then you're out You're up, then you're down

We used to be just like twins, so in sync The same energy now's a dead battery Used to laugh (used to laugh) 'bout nothing ('bout nothing) Now you're plain (now you're plain) boring (boring) I should know (I should know) that you're not gonna change

'Cause you're hot, then you're cold You're yes, then you're no You're in, then you're out You're up, then you're down You're wrong when it's right It's black, and it's white We fight, we break up We kiss, we make up

You're hot, then you're cold You're yes, then you're no You're in, then you're out You're up, then you're down (down)

Someone call the doctor Got a case of a love bipolar Stuck on a rollercoaster Can't get off this ride You change your mind like a girl changes clothes

'Cause you're hot, then you're cold You're yes, then you're no You're in, then you're out You're up, then you're down You're wrong when it's right It's black, and it's white We fight, we break up We kiss, we make up

You're hot, then you're cold You're yes, then you're no You're in, then you're out You're up, then you're down You're wrong when it's right It's black, and it's white We fight, we break up We kiss, we make up

You're hot, then you're cold You're yes, then you're no You're in, then you're out You're up, then you're down

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guys I watched this movie :

and it´s really beautiful , warm , and everything is in it .

so please watch it , it´s available on youtube .

and pay attention to every scene .

I say pay attention to this movie :

everything is interesting !!!

note : if anyone watched it and didn´t notice anything , just tell me and I will make a post about it to make everything clear .

but if you noticed "things" : then congrats !!! you may add this movie as reference for the bear !!!

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today joke

claire to carmen : you´re not supposed to run away from me !!!!

claire after carm panic attack speech :

girl you are the first one who runned away :

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the funny thing about claire carmy "fight" is :

claire said two controversial things , that didn´t make sense to me :

she said :

I saw glimpes of you , I want to see all of you

and

I´ve known you forever , and I know all your fu***g family !

so once she says I´ve known you forever and in the same time she says : I saw glimpes of you !!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????

truly , now ,I think my theory is true that : she didn´t love him , and she didn´t have any crush on him . it was mickey who sets up everything and told her everything about carmen , and I will not be surprised if micheal also told her that carmy has a crush on her .

and when carmen became famous chef and is opening his own restaurent , she took interest in him , and wanted to try .

because seriously ,if she really liked him , she could have him at the past .

and there´s no explanation , why she didn´t persue him when they were younger , especially the fact she knew he was a shy boy .

and by the way , when you repeat their fight again and again you will feel :

why carmen is apologizing for something he feels ????????

and why claire thought that the words she heard is actually about her ?????? unless she knew there´s something wrong and off .!!!

nothing is logical between the two (carmen and claire )

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I'm tired !

Propaganda I’m not falling for (they’re talking about Sydluca)

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I have something , I need to talk about :

why nowdays , everything is complicated? , even the relationships betwen people is now more complicated , because there´s "people" who are trying to put definitions and lines and whatever , just to define what kinda relationship you are having .

let´s be honest guys : in this life we have close friends , we have family , collegues , romantic partners .....

and each one I mentioned , we know what kinda feelings we have towards them .

it´s really easy and not complicated at all .

but when I read about "platonic friendships" and platonic whatever.

and I see the definitions of it .

I become really mad .

just for one reason :

platonic love and romantic love are the same , but the romantic one involves physical intimacy (sex).

wtffffffffffffffffffff .

are we living in this planet ???

or they are talking about a fictional planet ????????

I will just put the definition , and you will see :

"In platonic relationships, intimacy comes from shared experiences, mutual interests, and deep conversations. You confide in each other, offer support, and share joy and sorrow. Romantic relationships also involve emotional intimacy, but they often include a desire for a deeper, exclusive connection with a partner."

and wtf :

"Platonic love refers to a deep, close relationship that is not romantic or sexual in nature. It's a type of love focused on emotional connection, mutual respect, and shared experiences, often described as a very close friendship. While it can involve deep affection and even a sense of love, it lacks the romantic and physical intimacy found in romantic relationships. "

and this :

"Platonic love is a type of love in which sexual desire or romantic features��are nonexistent or have been suppressed or sublimated, but it means more than simple friendship."

now I´m not against all this things above .

but to be honest , in real life we don´t have this terms , especially when it comes to two people (syd and carm for exemple) .

and personally , I didn´t have this platonic things :

I have friends and lover and family . and I ´m close to them .

but this closeness of the platonic love /friendships I did truly have with my boyfriend at the begining of our relationship .

maybe there´s people who have this friendships in their life .

but most of the time this things will turn out to be something more .

like put yourself in this position :

you have a friend , and you two are really close , like the definitions above .

and you have your romantic partner, who is also close to you like your friend , but the difference beteween the two is just you are having sex with the second option .

and this is actually a problem : because we are not in a pink barbie world , where everything is beautiful and perfect and many many movies talked about the subject : where close friends turn out to lovers .

because we are humans , and we have a heart and we feel .

so I think we better just remove the "platonic word" from the dictionnary .

because it´s clear :

friends are friends

lovers are lovers

family is family

collegues are collegues

and I see why (side eye) many people are trying to make sydney and carmy platonic . because honestly they didn´t see it happen in real life , so they want it to happen in the serie !!!

and thank you for reading my opinion, I hope you understand it !

if you want to share your opinions , my ears for you !

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just I will drop this question to anyone who still thinks that carmen and sydney are just friends /soulmates .

just a simple question :

so if syd and carmen are just platonic friends .

why the hell they are making paralleles between syd and claire ????

claire is a romantic partner for carmen , that´s ok .

sydney is a platonic friend for carm , that´s ok .

so is it normal to compare a romantic partner and a platonic friend , and make a lot of parallels ???????????

is it normal ?????????????

is this how your logic operates ????????????????

unless :

sydney and claire are two romantic partners for carmen .

one of them represents the past and the other represents the future .

sooooooooooooooooo , please stop trying to make it impossible !!!

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syd back tattoos

like I´m obsessed now , and I will not have peace until I see all her back tattoos on my screen .

like the fact . in the show we only saw "one tattoo" in the middle of carm and claire kissing scene , and they didn´t show the rest .

like what´s the point ???????????

are they hiding them for a bigger purpose ??????

I watched two movies : as good as it gets and silver linings playbook

and the two had a scene when the female lead appeared with a naked back :

in as good as it gets , simon the depressed painter , when he saw carol naked back , he gets inspired again and wants to draw her :

and in silver linings playbook , (some little similarities with the bear) :

like we need ittttttttttt , it´s an emergency !!!!!!!!!!!!

the way I believe that her back tattos reveal will involve carmen ,is because her first tattoo appearance was in the middle of claircarmy love scene like :we saw syd back and she just wearing a bra and after that shot I think , we saw claire back .......

so , maybe , just maybe :

when sydney will show her back tattoos to someone (carmen) , it will mean that all the walls she builded around herself is finally fell and she will let carmy in and open up about her fears , insecurities and feelings .

because , why sydney and the showrunners hiding this tattoos , if it will not mean something important .

all this physical avoidance between carm and syd must come to an end in s5 .

I will not have peace until I see carm touches her back tattoos , skin to skin .

btw , it happens in s2 , he touched her back many times , but she was always covering herself ,, sooooooooooooo

are you seeing what I´m seeing !

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if I'm not wrong s5 will be during the christmas .

Watched groundhog day and while you were sleeping .

And I'm now just guys .

We must have a scene of sydcarmy in the snow .

Like we neeed itttt :

Like if the two will not go out in a date in a snowy weather . I don't know really .maybe we will get it !

By the way lucy and jack from while you were sleeping married at the train station .

And we know carm and syd are associated with trains and we only saw the two being in the train station.

So what if we will get a scene of them together there ????

Are you seeing what I'm seeing .

Ah the movie was in chicago btw .

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Sydney adamu : the angel who was watching carmen all along !

before s4 , I had a crazy theory about sydney , and I wasn´t gonna to talk about it . but when the new season dropped , I said to myself : girl ! just do it ! maybe I´m not the only one having the idea !

anyway , to be short and clear : what if sydney her one and only crush was chef carmen anthony berzatto .

what I mean is : her story with him didn´t begin after the best meal the hamachi blood orange . but it begins when she was much younger !

I will put everything that drove me to think about this theory , just focus with me , and use the logic please .

let´s begin :

we all thought that we know who is sydney , this talented , beautiful , focused chef . but the more I try to know her , the more she is mysterious to me , like to be honest , she is like micheal :

everyone thought they knew micheal who was everybody best friend , but in reality no one truly knew him .

it´s like syd , who is everybody friend now and they thinkthey know her but no one really know anything about her .

sometimes she drops some personal informations for exemple about her mom . but we the audience still eager to see her full story because we want to understand her more .

and one of her mysteries is carmen , and after the alleyway fight , I felt like she is emotionally attached to carmy for a long time , in another word :

carmen was her inspiration , her idol , the one who pushed her to become a chef .

because if she doesn´t need him in the kitchen , and the point of his presence , is inspiring her and boosting her energy , and the one who makes her encouraged , is only him.

so , all this feelings won´t just began from the hamachi blood orange .

all the story began before the best meal .

and this is the most interesting scenes :

her face , in their first meeting ,was of someone who was waiting for a chance to talk with his favourite chef .

and carmen face , when she said , that the beef was special place and her dad favorite spot and she came to it when she was child every sunday , was like : wait a minute .

and guys we still don´t know if this information is true or no . and the one who will answer that : is emmanuel himself .

because if what she said is true , maybe the two saw each other when they were children !!!! and this is will be really interesting .

and what about the bunch of informations she knew about carmy :

the way she talks about him is really special !!!

we all see s4 ep4 end ep 7 and god the girl is having a lot of feelings for him .

and in s1 richie asked her the right question :

also her conversation with marcus :

like c´mon the girl is in love with this chef !

let´s have a look of sydney career :

first syd didn´t begin her cullinary life after graduating high school .

why :

first she said that she worked a ups driver to pay the CIA .

but when I searched , I found the ups drivers must be 21 years old and more .

so syd was maybe 21 years old when she begins working and studying .

and we have a 3 years after high school , we don´t know what she did , but there´s a little information that nobody catched is :

she was broke :

????????????????????????????

why , is it sheridan road or something else ??????????

and take this also :

when she was at CIA

and also we don´t know if syd studied 4 years there , or less because that school offers many options .

and btw what was syd speciality there :

???????????????????

I alway thought that syd was like carm

she never had a boyfriend , she was that girl who just focused on her career , education but any romantic life just no, it´s not a priority for her .

and the only one who she showed interest in is carmen :

carmen who is a handsome , talented , excellent , young chef who was famous at age 21 .

sydney wanted to be like him , she wanted to be around him .

and we saw that she just worked with him at the beef .

and he asked her in their first meeting what is she doing here ???????!!!!!!!!

sydney was watching carmy career , and everyday passes she becomes more attached to him . and her feelings becomes more complicated :

it begins with : interest as a chef then admiration as a chef then crushing on chef and it will end : loving him as a person , as the man and not the chef .

and I will not be surprised if he was the only man she loves .

the only one who has a special place in her heart .

part 2 is coming !

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Claire Dunlap: A consolidation of analyses

This post is my attempt at consolidating a whole bunch of meta on this platform about Claire's role in The Bear. Because given the new season, everyone's coming in with takes (some great, some not so great) and it gets hard to wade through it all. Also, there has been A LOT of historical analysis of this character from past seasons and almost all of it still holds up. But Tumblr being what it is and folks' attention spans and ability to actually conduct research being what they are, a lot of that analysis has fallen by the wayside.

Above: Claire in 4x03 Scallop looking a haggard mess. Also a picture of my shrivelled soul after reviewing this insane volume of Claire-based meta in the last few days.

With all that providing a lens through which to look at season 4, this season has confirmed for me that Claire has been purposefully written as an escalating threat to Carmy's mental health. This has been building from the start of her tenure in the The Bear, up to and including season 4. I repeat: Claire has not been written with the intention that anyone in the audience should ship her with Carmy. And if you do? If you are watching The Bear and are rooting for Carmy and this woman to be endgame? The show told you in 1x01 to stop watching get out of line along with the other media illiterate white supremacists incel, QAnon, 4chan, Snyder-cut, (and I'd also add) Reddit motherfuckers. [In case I need to spell it out: this is because you'd rather ship white wunderkind chef man Carmy with one of the only available, conventionally pretty white women in show whose character has not been fleshed out at all, than imagine him loving, needing, wanting his beautiful, multi-faceted, professional equal (well...superior at this point) who is a Black woman.]

Now, I'm not saying that Claire has been written as an out-and-out villain. The Bear doesn't have those (except for Chef David of Empire). Among the many things the show is about is how we all hold light and dark within us and that we have choices to make about how or if we share or weaponise those parts of ourselves with others. This is why many of us love this show, its realistic in that way. And lets be real: the folks in our lives who are not good for us, usually don't enter our lives with a sign around their necks or red flags flying from their heads to identify them as threats. In many cases, it takes time to recognise that someone's behaviour hurts. Similarly, it will take time for Claire and Carmy's incompatibility to make itself plain for viewers (particularly those who don't want to engage subtext when watching this show).

TLDR: If Syd and Carmy are the slow burn love story at the heart of The Bear, then Claire and Carmy are its slow chill: a relationship that if it keeps going at its current pace, will leave Carmy frozen in heightened anxiety, unable to move.

I put together this post in the hopes that it might make people feel better about this character's future (or lack thereof) in season 5. I've said it before and I'll say it again: legacy media, Reddit, Twitter etc none of them hold a candle to the level of analysis and rigour that gets put out by the folks in the #sydcarmy tag on Tumblr (and they know it too - thats why they're regularly combing through our shit and stealing content without attribution *cough*).

The list of meta links below, while long as shit, is by no means comprehensive. Its based on my own imperfect searching through multiple tags. I also stopped actively searching for Claire meta in the last week so there’s probably lots of recent S4 meta I’ve missed in this list. Feel free to reply or reblog with links to meta you’ve found/written that are not listed here. This post was haunting my drafts so I had to get it out lol. The list is under the cut.

Season 2

@eeeeehhhhhkiszkahkiszka's meta on Claire as part of a pattern in Carmy's life where things are chosen for him.

@strawberryscare's meta on a costume choice in 2x08 Bolognese that associates Claire with regression into Carmy's past instead of his forward growth.

@fairestbeard’s meta on Claire's disruptive waiting in S2.

@fairestbeard's meta on the use of signs and magical realism in 2x05 Pop.

My meta on the subtextual sex scene between Claire and Carmy in 2x05 Pop.

My gif-based meta highlighting the difference in warm and cold lighting for Syd/Claire scenes.

@brokenwinebox's meta analysing Clairmy over the course of S2.

@brokenwinebox's meta on pushing between Claire and Carmy and between Marcus and Syd

@yannaryartside's meta on Claire pushing Carmy.

@radio-ghost-cooks' meta on Claire as the last thing holding Carmy back.

@myloveismineallmine's meta on Claire, Carmy and chores.

Part 2 and Part 4 of @myloveismineallmine's multi-part meta on song choices and Sydcarmy. Note: this whole series is awesome: Part 1 and Part 3.

Season 3

@outmakingmoonshine's meta: Part 1 and Part 2 on the fact that Sydcarmy has been intentionally written by Chris Storer as endgame from the jump and the superficial role of Clairmy in the show.

@moodyeucalyptus' meta (and ALL the reblogs) on Claire's performance as an ER doctor and her role as an anaesthetic that helps Carmy to numb himself.

@brokenwinebox's meta laying out visually the associations between Claire (in the present) and abusive Donna (in the past).

@brokenwinebox's meta on connections between Claire, mold and death.

@ambeauty's meta on Claire as the personification of the freezer Carmy got stuck in during 2x10 The Bear

@ambeauty's meta on Syd, Carmy and Claire's roles and how they fill the tropes in a romantic workplace comedy.

@yannaryartside's meta on Carmy's relationship with Claire as another example of him not dealing with his past traumas.

@freedelusionshere's meta analysing Claire's role as a dramatic foil: "Donna with a soft voice."

My reblog meta on @espumado's original post about Claire being a reverse-engineered haunt, created by Carmy to keep Michael in his life.

My reblog meta on @mitocamdria's original post about Carmy's sublimation and shame and what this might tell us about his relationship with Claire.

@yannaryartside's meta on why Carmy has a freeze response around Claire

@ciaomarie's meta on Claire's treatment of Carmy over eps 2x10 to 3x09.

@thoughtfulchaos773's meta on Carmy's memories of Claire and Syd and what they tell us about his state of mind with these two women.

@thoughtfulchaos773's meta on repeated connections between Claire and Tiff

@thoughtfulchaos773's meta on Claire being the mother that Carmy wanted.

@yannaryartside's meta on Claire and narcissim.

@freedelusionshere's meta on Claire and gaslighting.

@thoughtfulchaos773's meta (and ALL the reblogs) on Claire, Carmy and S3's horror theme.

@mitocamdria's meta on Carmy's reluctance in his relationship with Claire.

@bioloyg's answer to an ask about Claire's role in S3 as it pertained to Carmy's charcter arc.

@turbulenthandholding's meta on Carmy, Claire and dissociative amnesia.

Season 4

@marianasue20's meta about Claire's propensity for making light of the heavy things that Carmy discusses with her.

@fairestbeard's meta (and @freedelusionshere's reblog meta) on Molly Gordon's acting choices to convey Claire's disdain for Sydney.

@fairestbeard's meta on dialogue in 4x08 Green between Claire and Carmy and how this might point to Claire having two faces when it comes to Carmy.

@bioloyg's meta on the use of Claire in 4x06 Sophie as a confessional for Sydney to disclose her fears.

@brokenwinebox's meta on Claire's controlling language in 4x03 Scallop.

@thoughtfulchaos773's meta on Carmy's use of fire (and Claire) to forget/escape pain.

My meta comparing Pete, Syd and Claire's approaches to the surviving Berzatto children as they navigate their reintroductions to Donna.

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so I´m not the only one who ound her sarcastic and mean in ep 7 .

4x07 set up many parallels between Sydney and Claire but the most glaring one to me was how when Sydney was joking around with Stevie and kind of poking fun at Carmy, Carmy laughed. But when Claire was making fun of him under the table he didn't. He never laughs at her jokes or sarcasm because when you really hear what she's saying, unlike Sydney, it's very mean. She's joking about his trauma or the things he opened up to her about. She's terrible.

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question ?

did you find , there 's something in :

Making syd mom an actress and michelle berzatto also is an actress ??????

And we get only stevie meets syd and not michelle ????

Are you seeing what I'm seeing ?????

Or I'm being delusional

Just imagine if michelle knew sydney mother ....

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me preparing myself to write my delusional theory today

prepare yourselves sydcarmies !

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Late night self indulgence sketch

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things , the showrunners did on purpose .

hear me out :

in my opinion , s4 gave more questions than answers . like to be honest I get some answers but not explicitly .

anyway , this is some questions that didn´t get an answer , because now I believe , it will influence the story in s5 , here we go :

the scrunchie and the prayer card (let´s take away the prayer card ) : that scruchie belongs to sydney like 100% , but we didn´t understand until now , how and why carmen get it and why they showed it . the answer will be in s5 .....

in s4 , which room , carmen found the green sweatshirt ??? : is it in carmen room or micheal , and this is was on purpose .

why sydney wanted to work with carmen ????????? , like c´mon syd you still didn´t explain .

the connection between claire and micheal , since he was the one telling her about what carmen doing , we didn´t get any flashback about this two : whyyyyyy???????

how micheal get the medication :painkillers , there´s shady business ????????

sydney mysterious past ; like no ex partner , the sheridan road story , the CIA , her friends , her mom is an actress , we only saw chantel , tj and there´s a mention about mary (all cousins ) : but sydney still mysterious to me , like if we gonna focus with her , we will find out that she is like mikey character who is supposed to be known by everyone , but in reality we don´t know him truly .: we need flashback .

emmanuel and carm : they are hiding this two from each other for a big purpose : the first , maybe the two met before but they didn´t know the names of each other or the second , their future meeting will reveal carmen true feelings toward sydney .

donna opinion about claire ??????????

and many questions ???????????

if you have other question please added in the comments .