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Hi Fellow Loud-watchers!

I wrote an analysis and my thoughts on my two biases in Loud, Min and Minseoung, on Wordpress. I’ve been using Wordpress for free so I recently found out it doesn’t show up on the internet when I search for it, thus I’m popularizing it here. If anybody wants to talk about Loud I’m all ears!

https://beomnapoleonbat.wordpress.com/2021/08/19/the-journey-with-kim-minseoung/

https://aemuludiary.wordpress.com/2021/09/09/the-journey-with-yoon-min/

I’m planning on writing a small analysis on some contestants too, if I cooperate with myself

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ITZY Personality Analysis

Somebody requested for me to do Itzy’s personalities, so here it is! Sorry for the late response and inactivity. 

Do note that I’m not a MIDZY, so I only relied on one series to type them - 2TZY on Youtube. I tried watching a Yuna Vlive, but it wasn’t subbed, so I just came to the conclusion that ITZY Vlives weren’t subbed, which is a pity.

Preface: To those who don’t know MBTI, there are 8 functions in four pairs. The judging functions (Fe-Ti and Fi-Te) are used in decision-making; Fe-Ti considering personal knowledge (Ti) and the opinions and feelings of others (Fe), or using hard logic and fact (Te), and a personal moral compass (Fi), while perceiving functions (Si-Ne and Se-Ni) are used for taking in information from surroundings (Se or Ne) and storing it in your “database” (Si or Ni)

As for enneagram, there are three triads: head triad (5, 6, 7) reveals how one deals with fear; heart triad (2, 3, 4) reveals how one deals with shame; and gut triad (8, 9, 1) reveals how one deals with anger. Each person has a tritype, and has one fix each from each triad.

In order from most to least confident in:

Yuna

ESFJ

This was somewhat obvious to me because of how the other members described her. Yuna enjoys complimenting people and lifting others up, and she’s extremely in tune with the emotions of people around her, which led me to think Fe-dom. She can be extremely nurturing, and she constantly says stuff like “You guys take care of me, so I should take care of you!” Then it led me to two choices - ESFJ and ENFJ. However, I barely saw Ni in her; she’s a lot more upbeat and excitable, which could be the tertiary Ne. She’s also pretty good at recollecting details (Si) and has that groundedness along with the sunny disposition of most ESFJs. Yuna also said she usually says stuff without much thought: predebut Yuna after hearing Dalla Dalla approached predebut Ryujin and went “Hey, isn’t this song soooo GOOD?!”, which leads me to go for inferior TI at the moment, though a weak example.

As for enneagram, I was thinking she could be a 2 with how much she enjoys helping others and how adept she is at it. Probably a 9 fix somewhere, and 7 head fix with how excitable and optimistic she is. Between 2w1 and 2w3 I’d go for 2w3, as Yuna mentioned that she’s a competitive person, which is a trait of most 3s. She also isn’t as hard on herself and doesn’t have strict principles to conform to like 1s do.

In conclusion: ESFJ 2w3 297

Yeji

ISFJ

Yeji has a pretty... Si-ish sense of humour. Dad jokes and puns, it’s cute when she laughs at it haha. As for Fe, she’s very in tune with the emotions of her other members, and talks a lot about how when she notices they want something, she’ll give it to them; sort of similar to the way Yuna gifts compliments. Yeji talks a lot about other people and their opinions, but her Si is more careful - Ryujin goes “lol let’s hug her’, while Yeji says “I would have had second thoughts before hugging someone” (dom Si and inf Ne). She’s also careful and meticulous, Si-dom traits, and like Chae, they’re both perfectionists who have a work-before-play mindset. There’s also an intriguing bit - Yeji talks about how people told her she dances by-the-book. Si is pretty adept in mimicking the moves of others while Fe is good at noticing this, so without Fi it would harder to add her own flair in, which seems like a pretty ISFJ struggle. Her inferior Ne shows when with Ryujin, when they both had to assign seasons to each other. (Yeji: “What if we chose the same seasons?” Ryujin:”Then we chose the same seasons”)

I’m guessing 9w1 for her enneagram. Easygoing, perceptive, positive-thinking. Her w1 lies in her perfectionistic and dedicated nature, and she does seem to be more hard on herself compared to the more chill 9w8. I’m guessing 6 fix for her which makes her more grounded and dependable and 2 fix because of how much she enjoys giving and caring for the members.

ISFJ 9w1 962 (??)

Chaeryeong

ISFJ 

Compared to Yeji, I see more Ti in Chae than I do with Yeji and see more Fe in Yeji than Chae, but both are still there. I feel like when Chae tries to explain things, she often talks more about her personal understanding and elaborates on it while Yeji talks more about the impacts it has on others. There’s this bit with Yuna, where she goes “Why would you do that?”, and Yuna goes “Just do it!”. Her Si-Ti can make her a lot more skeptical than Fe-Ne Yuna even if they have the same functions. She also seems to be good with her details of her memories, remembering acutely her routine. Inferior Ne I don’t know for now.  Her Si can make her seem pretty grudgeful although that seems to just be her humour and wit, but there’s that Fe that pokes out that makes her enjoy compliments from others.

I’m guessing 6w5 for her enneagram. Unlike Yeji, who’s more easygoing, Chaeryeong has more of that nervous undertone and is a lot more head-centred. She also kind of relies on self-depreciating humour at times? But at the same time, she’s dedicated and hardworking. w5 over w7 as I see her as more private and withdrawn than w7, who’d be a lot more outgoing. I chose 3 fix with how dedicated she is to her job as an idol, but I’m not sure whether she’d have a 9 fix (easygoing, pushes back anger) or 1 fix (perfectionistic and strict with their ideals)

ISFJ 6w5 639/1

Ryujin

ISTP

Unlike the rest of them, Ryujin is a thinker. She’s more rational, and contrasts to Yuna this way as they both have opposite dominant functions (they even address being opposites). Ryujin when called out has this tendency to give reasonings for why she did it (dom Ti). If something doesn’t align with how she thinks it is, she’ll call it out (”That isn’t really a fight though”). Compared to the rest of the ITZY members, Ryujin doesn’t seem like she has Si - no meticulous attention to detail, rather jumping into things, which seems more Se to me. She also can be pretty witty, with her double entendre (Ni), and there’s this time where Ryujin talks about wondering whether Dalla Dalla would be a hit when she heard it predebut, which would make her more forward thinking (tert Ni). Her inf Fe is interesting - she has this side of her that likes messing with people and getting reactions from them, and she also seems to secretly enjoy attention, oof. Her birthday message to Yuna also seemed inf Fe - “I think I might have been awkward with you and sometimes not so caring, but thanks for being by my side”

Frankly speaking, however, I don’t have much of an idea for her enneagram. I originally guessed 9w8 for how chill she seemed, and the 8 in her makes her somewhat competitive, but then I’m also considering 8w9. So I don’t know what her enneatype is. I’m guessing her heart fix is 3 and her head fix is 7.

ISTP 8w9/9w8 8/937

Lia

ENFP?

Okay, so Lia is probably the biggest mystery for me from all the ITZY members. I’m unsure of her type, and I’m unsure of her enneagram. I’m just taking a guess, so take note this may not be correct. 

Lia is pretty witty - she enjoys humour that most of the other members don’t find as hilarious, and she tosses in these snarky remarks here and there. She likes tossing in these random sayings that I have never heard someone say before (“Your butt will become hairy if you laugh while crying”), which comes off to me as Ne. Her Ne also makes her pretty easily distractible (eg joining a conversation as soon as an interesting topic comes out, neglecting her food). I guessed Fe with how caring she was, but that would make her xNTP (NeSi FeTi) and that didn’t sit right, and comparing her to the rest of the group, she didn’t seem as Fe, so I settled for Fi. This particular bit sounds like Fi-Te - “I’ll work hard (Te) so that I can proudly call myself Yuna’s sister (Fi)”, though not necessarily. Her Fi-Te can also be how firm she is on her opinions. I’m guessing inferior Si with how nostalgic over the future she is, and she has a lot of developing Si thoughts, like taking Yuna to drink wine, or admiring Yuna in her wedding dress. But I also considered INFP because the inf Te can make her more slothful, but I’m settling for ENFP for now, as she does seem to be Te>Si.

As for enneagram, I’m considering that her more slothful and lenient nature is attribute to 9. She seems relatively peaceful and easygoing like Yeji, mostly going her own pace. She finds tasks like moving overwhelming because there are things to pack and unpack.I’m not sure about her wing, but I don’t see the w8 anger/need for control in her, so I’ll go for 9w1. Strong 2 fix makes her more nurturing. I’m guessing her head fix to be 6.

So, ENFP 9w1 926

So yeah, that’s it for my mini analysis of their types! If there are any idols you want me to analyse, let me know :D

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Hey can you type Itzy?

That's a challenge I'm compelled to accept! I'll watch a few Vlives and content of them and ty to type them, thanks for the suggestion!

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Damn it, I’m bringing this back because apparently now Han is an INTP, Minho is an ESFP, and Hyunjin alternates between INFP and ENFP.

Watching Maknae's Private Life and-

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Watching Maknae's Private Life and-

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Sadness is when your bias gets a lot less arguments on Personality Database compared to his groupmates.

Sometimes I just miss Jeongin so much and want to talk to people about his personality but it's just so empty.

Like I love him so much I need to make more friends with similar Jeongin fans ;-;

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Bang Chan

Just mini observations lol

Chan’s one of the most clear-cut ENFJs out there. He’s self-sacrificing, he tends to put others opinions before his own, and he’s generally very emphatic and warm. Those are more surface-level signs of Fe. 

So recently I was watching this interview (here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zv_K-v8uTI) and well, I just realised he’s got some good Ni in him as well.

Ni as an aux will be more forward-looking, combined with his Ti he analyses what each member of the group could possibly bring into his new group. He’s basically analysed every member and thought about how they would impact the group in the future.

“Back then, after seeing I.N’s charm and confidence on stage, I thought to myself “Ah, this friend is really cute, and I want to be with him for a long time””

Honestly this isn’t too much a clear indicator but I see some Ni-Se usage there.

“[Seungmin] was extremely diligent. And I could feel that he thinks a lot about his surroundings a lot through his attitude.” < Chan’s Se sensing how Seungmin acts just by how he acts. Se is a very observational function, and combined with Fe it makes him more aware of people around him and how they act. 

His memory and accounting for details is less so detailed like Si-Ne and more so on his own impressionistic views on Ni-Se, Se taking in the details that he experienced and Ni having this like vision that sees how the future will play out. I guess that’s also why Ni is kind of mistaken as this fortune-telling function - it has this ability to take in its surroundings, and detect patterns that enable it to guess whether the outcome of his decisions were good or not. 

Chan knows what he wants. And he got it with Stray Kids.

Ni is somewhat single-minded and goal-driven in a way, which fits Chan and his extreme dedication to being an idol. His tert Se makes him somewhat spontaneous and fun-loving, and his Ti usage while overpowered by his Fe, assists his Ti to produce good Fe outcomes for the group.

Does this make sense? :P I’m not the best at articulating my thoughts lol. Have a Chan.

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this is not a hate ask. i don't want to put your enthusiasm out as a new blog. go for it. i'm just giving my two cents about personality database.

No no I understand thanks for your thoughts, I don’t mind haha

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tbh personality database was a mess. typings are terrible. not trying to be rude but why are you there? basically people there didn't even know how to type. debating with people who didn't know what they're doing feels like a waste of time.

Hm sorry for late reply, but to be honest I was originally there because I found people who shared my interests and well it would be nice to share my observations with people, but yeah occasionally those get lost in the crowd. Upon that realisation, I decided it’s probably better to try out a place like tumblr where I can express my thoughts more freely, even though I’m not here very often. It sometimes does feel like I waste time there, but there are plenty of people who seem to genuinely want to learn typing as well. But yeah, PDB is a mess haha, because occasionally there’s the “Sensors are bad” and “He cleans so he’s an SJ” and honestly it can be sad at times haha

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More introduction

So as an MBTI enthusiast, I enjoy analysing behaviour and potential cognitive patterns in the people around me, so it’s no surprise I do that to K-pop idols too. I don’t actually intend to be famous with this blog, maybe just share what I think, meet some fans who are like me, and just talk about my observations. I like healthy debating, so if you disagree then sure we can talk about it :)

About me:

INTP 9w1 tritype 954 sp/so Phlegmatic-Sanguine True Neutral. There’s no telling this is confirmed, because who knows? I might change some of them in the future (I’m pretty set on INTP and 9w1 though)

Groups I currently stan (or am a fan of because I’m not a big fan of the word stan):

BTS

Stray Kids

Ateez

TXT

Twice

LOONA

Gfriend

Seventeen

These are sorted in order of familiarity though, so I might not know as much about an idol as you do.

(Actually seventeen should be higher but GIFs can’t be copied and it’s a hassle Anyways I kinda just wanna go on with it so that’s it :) Also this is more of an observation diary so it’s not really gonna be formatted... formally.

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Soooooo I'm actually on Personality Database too but I'll post some of my analyses here just so that people can refer to my Tumblr and I don't spam in the comments.

Of course, we're all free to disagree, but yeah