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At least one actor from Rogue One thinks that Gilroy "tightened up" the film but didn't drastically alter it.
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What did Young Din do wrong?
I’ve been wondering why Din seems to have had it harder than most other Mandalorians, so prepare yourselves for some evidence-based speculation…
⛔️ No signet (therefore, no clan)…
At the beginning of the show, he didn’t have a signet. So he was clanless. That means he wasn’t adopted (he says, “they raised me in the fighting corps”) because he would’ve had his adoptive clan’s signet if he had been. All he got was the mythosaur, which, as the Armorer said, “belongs to all Mandalorians”, so he belonged to the tribe but not any particular clan.
We know foundlings don’t have to be adopted because Grogu was called a foundling in seasons 1 and 2 when Din was only his caretaker. But at that stage, he’d been ordered to return the kid to his own kind, so he couldn’t adopt him. And he did eventually. So why didn’t anyone adopt Din? What was wrong with him? Why did nobody want this poor foundling in their clan? Or was there a reason they couldn’t, like with Grogu?
But also, Grogu was still considered part of Din’s clan and allowed the mudhorn signet even before the official adoption, so what in the galaxy’s name did Din do so wrong that meant he was denied the opportunity to be in any way associated with a Mandalorian clan, and was denied a clan signet all the way up to his late thirties when he had to “earn” one by battling a mudhorn??
⛔️ A lack of proper beskar…
Din also didn’t start off with a complete set of beskar armour, and while that’s not uncommon for kids (as we saw with Ragnar – beskar helmet only), it’s a little odd for adults. Din’s old cuirass and vambraces buckled easily on Arvala VII, so they must have been a poor-quality beskar alloy. We know from the beating his helmet takes from the Darktrooper that beskar should be much more robust, and he even tells the Armorer, “My armour has lost its integrity.” That wouldn’t happen if it were of acceptable quality.
But surely by the time Din had been with the Mandalorians for a few decades, he would’ve earned some better armour? They gave Grogu loads straight away! I realise beskar was thin on the ground after the Purge because the Empire had looted it all, but that happened less than a decade before the show (only five or so years if we’re to believe the timeline given in Ahsoka) when Din had already been a Mandalorian for at least twenty years. Are we meant to believe that on Concordia (the moon on which beskar was mined), they couldn’t scrounge some up, or that nobody ever died and left their beskar to be redistributed amongst the tribe??
So why didn’t Din get any decent upgrades during the two decades he spent as a Mandalorian prior to the Purge?
⛔️ No jetpack…
Most Mandalorians have jetpacks. That said, not everyone in the Children of the Watch has one, although we know they’re taught to use them as children (Din confirms he was trained “as a boy”, and we see other foundlings practising with them). However, virtually all other Mandalorians in the galaxy (through all available media) come with jetpacks, so we can assume they’re ubiquitous and that the Children of the Watch simply had a shortage. Perhaps they’re difficult to manufacture.
But why was Din never allowed to use one out of the ones they did have? Some of the covert members hanging around in the Nevarro sewers doing nothing had jetpacks, yet Din, who was seemingly the only one with a job for which a jetpack might be needed, didn’t get to use one. Why was his status so low? Was this some kind of punishment?
I suspect, in reality, the answer to these questions is “because it worked well for the progression of the story for him to earn each of these things one by one”, but I’d really like for there to be valid reasons behind it, too – something deeply meaningful in his backstory that explains all of this.
Like maybe if we discover Din did have a clan and a signet and was on his way to earning new armour and a jetpack, but then he got involved with Ran’s crew and did something idiotic (maybe the incident on Alzoc III?) that endangered the tribe, so he was ejected from his clan, stripped of his signet and had to start on the bottom rung of the ladder like a thirty-year-old foundling. (Perhaps that’s why Paz was always rude to him, called him a coward, said he’d had “disagreements” with him). And maybe they told him he could only regain his status if he worked as the tribe’s beroya to provide for them, so he joined the Bounty Guild and routinely dropped off a percentage of his credits, as we saw him do at the start, which also meant he had to live apart from the covert on his ship. Almost like a little partial exile before he was officially exiled.
Maybe this explains why he so happily lifted his helmet to drink soup in front of Grogu in season 2, even though in season 3, back in the presence of his tribe, he told Bo-Katan that you have to go off and find somewhere totally private. If he really believed that, surely he would’ve waited until the kid was asleep to have his soup. Perhaps he’s always been a bit of a rebel when he’s away from his tribe. Survivor’s guilt can manifest in many ways – perhaps Din didn’t think he deserved to be rescued, never felt like he fit in, pushed the boundaries of the faith he was inducted into due to a self-sabotaging mindset… all the while parroting the doctrine because he wanted to be worthy of it. If you think about how trauma can influence behaviour, it’s actually quite common for someone to say they want to achieve a particular goal and honestly believe it, but then subconsciously undermine their own chances of success.
And if they’ve made Din jump through hoops to redeem himself in the past, the Armorer’s directive to go and find the Living Waters doesn’t seem so outlandish anymore. How do you punish someone you’ve already dished out countless punishments to? You give them the most impossible-to-achieve task you can think of. (More fool her, he managed it!) But it also makes sense that he would jump through those hoops, even in light of his self-sabotaging actions, because it’s often the way that people only realise how desperately they need the support structure they’ve just torn down after it’s gone. That explains his seemingly incongruous doubling down on his beliefs in season 3.
I like the idea of Rebellious Din – the kid who was so profoundly scarred by losing his parents and being the sole survivor of a massacre that he embraced anger and violence and became the unruliest Mandalorian foundling they’d ever seen, never making friends or getting adopted, venturing out into the galaxy and getting himself into trouble as soon as he came of age. They hinted at it with Ran’s crew – if Mandalorians (especially Children of the Watch) are so honourable, how did Din end up with this dishonourable bunch? He definitely had a rebellious phase (‘target practice Din’), and he definitely has anger simmering below the surface (see the above GIF of him slamming his weapons cabinet closed, as well as all the times he gets snippy, which are numerous). But the show never explored it any further.
I’d love for this to be a genuine part of his past, as it would make Grogu’s influence on him even more profound if he started out so troubled. And perhaps Grogu (little troublemaker that he is) sensed Din’s unique mix of anger, heartbreak, frustration, isolation, and wilfulness, and he knew he’d found a kindred spirit.
Power born from chaos and grief. Two survivors, hidden away from the cruel world that took so much from them, angry at their losses, hiding their pain, feeling unloved.
Until they found one another, and finally, the pain and anger melted away.
Tentatively tagging a few fellow Mando enthusiasts in case of interest 🩶. Please feel free to ignore my ramblings if they’re unwelcome.
@autumnwoodsdreamer @din-cognito @dindjarindiaries @djarins-wife @djarinwidow
@firstofficerwiggles @quicksilvermad @roughdaysandart @the-mandawhor1an
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favourite character: cassian andor rogue one: a star wars story (2016), dir. gareth edwards
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EWAN MCGREGOR and HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN Onstage at FanExpo Chicago | August 17, 2025
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Felicity Jones attends the world premiere of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story on December 10, 2016 in Hollywood, California.
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#jyncassian #rebelcaptain #antitonygilroy
I wrote my opinion on the Bix Cassian baby and how I believe Lucasfilm should handle that storyline in the future, if they have the courage. Give it a read:
https://dorksideoftheforce.com/star-wars-bold-twist-in-the-story-of-bix-caleen-cassian-andor-child
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I wrote my opinion on the Bix Cassian baby and how I believe Lucasfilm should handle that storyline in the future, if they have the courage. Give it a read:
https://dorksideoftheforce.com/star-wars-bold-twist-in-the-story-of-bix-caleen-cassian-andor-child
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ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY (2016)
cassian and his oh moment
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Saw Gerrera used to say, ‘one fighter with a sharp stick and nothing left to lose can take the day’. They’ve no idea we’re coming. They’ve no reason to expect us. If we can make it to the ground, we’ll take the next chance. And the next. On and on until we win…or the chances are spent. The Death Star plans are down there. Cassian, K-2 and I will find them. We’ll find a way to find them. [insp]
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#cassianweek day 5 - cassian + the rebellion
“Everything I did, I did for the Rebellion.”
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felicity and diego in an interview about what people search for about them,
and when she says that the “felicity jones nudist” wasn’t her but someone else, diego looks slightly disappointed 😭
“no this is true, there’s a felicity homes who’s a nudist!”
“and it’s not you?”
“and it’s not me-”
“awwww”
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Cassian Andor died and was replaced by a lookalike: a conspiracy theory
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Rogue One team
[You′ll find that life is still worthwhile, if you'll just smile]
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Watching Andor and seing it's reception is like:
"So this is how Cassian Andor's characterization dies...with thunderous applause"
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