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skam croatia info

first clip: 22nd october

first episode: 27th october 21:10 (HRT1)

teaser: link

subs: link

official website: sram.hr

characters and their socials: link

other socials: tiktok youtube insta

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We are so back

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Skam croatia trailer is out

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Gutten som ikke klarte å holde pusten under vann (June 21st, 2017)

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Colour Palette Challenge Submission: Noora and Eva (i know they're not canon but pretty please), and number 5 :). Also you are doing the lord's work in this fandom god bless you

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7 years ago the final episode of skam titled takk for alt aired

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FUCK this post and happy birthday isak valtersen

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Insane to me that there are people who genuinely believe that Noora and William shared a healthy and mutually beneficial relationship. Insane to me that there are people who think it's a good deconstruction of the good girl bad boy trope. Insane to me that there are people who think they are the Darcy and Elizabeth of SKAM. Insane to me that people saw an older boy who had unprotected sex with a young girl, gave her a pregnancy scare, destroyed her self esteem enough to give her an eating disorder, apologized to her in a half assed way because he was promised a date, blackmailed and harassed her female friend into going out with him and they thought "omg so cute this is what young love looks like!" And then they point to nooreva and say it won't work because *checks smudged writing on palm* eva idolizes noora and doesn't see her true self. be fucking for real.

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nooreva 

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I wanna just see how beautiful you are..

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Fanart for „At First Sight“ by cami_soul

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There’s something that I’ve never really been able to square in my mind and I’d love your thoughts on it. I should start by saying that I’m not from Norway and I wasn’t around when Skam s2 was airing. But from what I have heard, the season was wildly popular locally and that sexual assault reports actually went up after that storyline aired (which is a really good thing, obviously). Since then, however, the general consensus across the fandom has +

become that s2 was really problematic and that it depicts a toxic relationship. So I guess the thing I have a hard time understanding is how that seemed to be missed in Norway in 2016? Are viewers there just not as “woke” as the wider international audience? Or do the people now looking back on it just have the advantage of hindsight, not to mention how much things have changed culturally over the last four years? Not that four years is a great deal +

of time, but we are post-‘Me Too’ now and things like misogyny and sexism are called out much more freely and loudly in the year 2020. I definitely feel that I’ve certainly become more attuned to the problems with the way that female characters are portrayed in recent years. Anyway, if you feel like it, I’d love to hear your thoughts.

Hi anon! ✨ This is a really good question, and while I will try to answer it to the best of my knowledge/educated guessing, I have to say that I’m also not from Norway nor did I live there in 2016 to be able to speak about the nuances of feminism.

I do think that, to a certain extent, Norway has a very casual approach to safe sex. As far as I understand, girls and women are expected by their sexual partners to be on the pill or some other kind of birth control. As a result, condom use isn’t great. Community transmission of chlamydia is so common that Norwegian 7-11 made an advertising campaign advising tourists to buy condoms, because having sex with locals would likely lead to getting it yourself. Hence the Skam girls constantly talking about chlamydia, William and P-Chris gave them chlamydia, Vilde is afraid of getting chlamydia in the eye, Linn has had chlamydia tons of times... One of Josefine’s (Noora) projects after Skam, Dear Condom, was meant to promote condom use, and lack of condom use in lovleg leads one of the characters to need an abortion.

So, to start with, someone like William who goes around pressuring naive girls into condomless sex and then discarding them (someone who might have even given chlamydia to half the school, as the Rad Girls speculate about him), can still be a romantic lead in Norway, because the attitudes are different. Like, he’s not the problem, Vilde is the problem because at 16 she’s not on birth control, you know?

I also know that the reaction to William was mixed even in 2016. Julie Andem once gave an interview to an (I believe Swedish) outlet, sometime after Skam aired, and she mentioned that in Sweden, where Skam was also available, William was not popular and she’d get very negative feedback about him after certain clips became available.

But ultimately, I think the reason that Norway was more receptive to William in 2016, than fandom has been of him subsequently, is that international fandom became aware of William once Isak’s season started airing. And the thing about Skam is that both NRK and Julie were willing to do a very different show with each season. Eva’s season is less romantic and more rooted in self-affirmation, a self-help show if you will; Noora’s season is a Wattpad bad boy/good girl enemies to lovers romance; Isak’s season is a LGBT escapist fantasy; and Sana’s season is more concerned with Russetide and who it excludes and how, than the romance storyline. So when people found Skam during Isak’s season, they thought the entire show was like Isak’s season, but it’s not, really. Isak’s season wasn’t going to necessarily appeal to straight Norwegians, just like Noora’s season wasn’t conceived to appeal to sad gay people worldwide. The thing is, NRK/Julie weren’t afraid of switching gears with each season, because rather than make a show with the most mainstream appeal (like some remakes), they were trying to make seasons that would appeal to the people who they felt needed to heed the messages therein. (Of course they fucked it up in s4, but you know.) 

And essentially, the people who needed to heed the messages in Noora’s season were girls who weren’t woke. Who didn’t know what had happened to them was not normal, or their own fault for blacking out or not being on birth control or because they had sex too young or not saying no when the guy got too rough or... The list goes on. And how do you get those girls to watch the show? You give them a bad boy/good girl enemies to lovers storyline that rivals even the American TV shows Gossip Girl (it’s not a coincidence that Eva namedrops it), One Tree Hill or The OC in plot twists and good-looking people making out. Cause if you remember, NRK asked Julie Andem to develop Skam because older teens were watching American TV shows instead of Norwegian ones.

In stan language, Isak’s season appealed to (white, mlm-centric) fandom because it was about two white dudes in love. But Noora’s season was made to appeal to locals. And it did. Even in 2020, bad boy/good girl borderline toxic/abusive storylines are popular (see: Euphoria, Nate/Jules shippers), because regardless of #MeToo or public consciousness struggling with sexism and misogyny, these dynamics keep appealing to women. (Same with Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey, etc.) Both because not every woman is part of this conversation, and because sometimes people just want to turn off their brain and enjoy some trash. 

As for Noora’s season, while I get all of this, my personal issue is that by mixing the fun trashiness with the educational messaging, while it did do good and led to an uptick in SA reports, Skam ultimately couldn’t keep the trashiness outside of the messaging. That’s why Nora’s season is the only good Noora season to me.

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Hello. Do you mind if I ask what is your issues with the slave comment? I think it's a joke from Elias and Sana in original SKAM. Can you explain?

hi, Anon! thanks for your ask! i strongly dislike the slave storyline for two main reasons: (1) use of the word itself; (2) the storyline in context of the depiction of muslim men in sana seasons and in media generally. sorry this got sooo long and definitely falls into the rant category! 😅

(1) use of the word itself: so personally, it just rubs me the wrong way. i joke around all the time with my brother and male cousins, but if any of them called me a slave (or bitch tbh) especially in front of their friends...yeah ain’t happening! 😅 for starters, the word slave has such a fraught history in both the islamic and american context that i just don’t find it funny. but also we still have intracommunity issues around misogyny (every community does) so i personally don’t find it to be innocuous or would give it tacit approval, especially when said in a gathering of young muslim men. i get that others may not find it that offensive, but that's my personal take.

(2) in context of the season and in media: but more importantly, it perpetuates stereotypes about muslim men and their oppression of women that never gets rectified throughout the season. and it just adds on to the media's depiction of muslim men that's overwhelmingly negative. in the first half of OG s4, we have these scenes throughout the season re: muslim men and women:

slave storyline between elias and sana (ep. 1)

elias criticizing sana for being on a russ bus when he was on one himself and says: "I just don't want people to hate you. It's for your own good. I'm a boy so I don't get hate. I can just chill." and in the same scene talks about how hot sana's friends are. (ep. 2)

and in the very next scene with noora, sana says: "Trust me, you don't want a muslim boy. They just get together with Norwegian girls, just to take advantage of them. And as soon as they want to get serious, when they want a proper woman in their life, then they marry a muslim girl and ditch you." (ep. 2)

sana's mom asks why she didn't go to friday prayer, and sana says that elias never goes,. in response, sana's mom says: "Elias is just as ditzy as your dad. While the two of us, we're a little more focused." (ep. 3)

elias gets wasted and responsible, non-muslim yousef calls sana for help. (ep. 4)

sana tells her mom there's thing in islam she doesn't agree with like how muslim men can marry non-religious women (btw, that's not scripturally accurate! muslim men cannot marry atheists!) (ep. 5)

fight between balloon squad and boy squad, after when sana is washing blood off her hands, she overhears the pepsi max girls talking about her brother and the balloon squad and that they are probably homophobic because they are muslim and that vilde told them elias calls sana "slave." (ep. 5)

meanwhile throughout s4, yousef is presented as this mature, respectful, honorable and all around amazing guy (i mean he IS amazing!) and that it shouldn't matter that he's non-muslim, because he's so much better than all these hypocritical jerks who are muslim that sana knows. so the good/desirable love interest is equated with the non-muslim man, whereas the muslim man is problematic.

we put all these statements and scenes out in the universe, but there's no rebuttal or examination of these stereotypes about muslim men in the show. we simply have a magical eid party in the very last episode where everyone is automatically getting along and enjoying spicy meatballs. there's no indication that the pepsi max girls have gotten over their stereotypes of muslim men or that vilde still thinks it's weird that sana's brother called her a slave or that even though sana's mom is coming around to liking her white, non-muslim girlfriends, will she stop treating her male and female children differently? so we are left with more fodder to pile on to the overwhelmingly negative portrayal of muslim men in media. 

at the end of the day, it's very hard for me to divorce the slave storyline from the context of the show. and i can't help but think that julie andem and many other showrunners have this weird feministic take on islam - that it's not really compatible with "western" culture until it reforms; that practicing muslim sana should not be so rigid and open herself up to non-muslim yousef (a stand in for norwegian society) if she really wants to be happy.  

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About Isak and Sanas talk which have upset some people: Isak isn’t perfect. If he knew the answers to everything that would be unrealistic. He can’t say ALL the right things at all the right times. Isak being gay and Sana being religious can’t be compared in any way. Sana wearing a hijab is a choice, Isak can’t choose his sexuality. And in Norway, there IS way more discrimination against Muslims than there ishomophobia. People DO judge Sana off of her headwear. But Isak wasn’t completely wrong either, because Sana can be unnecessary crude when asked about her religion. Not excusing Vildes behaviour at all, but when she asked Sana legitimate questions about russetiden and being Muslim, Sana could have made Vilde understand, it’s not stupid to question if taking part in a tradition that is built on sex, drinking and drugs is something a religious person “"can”“ participate in, and Sana obviously found that Isak had a point in what he said. On the other hand I completely get that to survive as a hijabi in a white non Muslim country YOU HAVE TO HAVE thick skin. My point is that Isak isn’t racist, or ”“cancelled”“ just because he isn’t Sanas Guru in this. Just because he had a different perception and point of view and a different ‘solution’ people are turning their backs at him? DID YOU LEARN NOTHING ABOUT JUDGING PEOPLE? That’s everything this season has been about for Gods sake.