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Hi 💜 i dont know if you ever talked about this . Do you think jikook talked about their relationship (of course assuming it is one as jikookers) with some close friends outside of the members? Do you think in their position someone who’s not involved can be trusted? I always ask myself how their families protect them, the effort it takes, things that could slip out of their mouths. Also the staff, people who could be fired and spill the tea. What do you think ? Your thoughts matter to me i hope it doesnt bother you. Thank you!

Hi Lovely!

Do think Jimin & Jungkook talk about their relationship with friends who aren’t the members?

My opinion and my opinion only. Of course!

The Kind of People They Are

We’ve seen how Jimin is when a song gets played and he remembers something about Jungkook

Jimin remembering funny things Jungkook does when ‘unholy’ came on or when he was listening to ‘that that’

Or when he’s even with Jungkook right next to him and he talks about Jungkook.

It takes a conscious effort for Jimin to not talk about Jungkook. It’s natural when it’s someone you’re extremely close to, someone you spend a lot of time with. Even people who’ve never meet my other half who’ve spoken to me for a long period of time would find out sooner than later that I have a partner.

The same could be said for Jungkook too, he hears something that reminds him of Jimin. 'Jimin likes this' "Jimin doesn't like this' 'this is Jimin's size' 'Jimin would be good at this'

The Level of Detail They'd Share

I think the main thing for me is the detail in which Jikook may talk about each other to others. I think in regards to mentioning each other at all to friends, of course, no doubt. Mentioning the things they do and the time they spend together, again yes, there’s nothing stand out about members of years long spending time together and being close.

It’s IF Jikook talk about any romantic happenings with friends that is up for wonder. If they label themselves when talking about the other to friends or if they just let friends assume that they are closer than close. (Assuming like we do that they’re together and queer, assuming)

It’s if they’ve explicitly labeled themselves as queer and have shared this with their friends. I think in the industry they work in and the years they’ve been in it, all they’ve experienced and the training they’ve had, that they have different levels of trust.

The Kinds of Friends

I think when it comes to it, it would maybe be people with as much to ‘lose’ as them that they would feel most comfortable sharing more intimate details with? Friends who they have been friends with for a significant long time, friends in the industry who they know wouldn’t want the public knowing their intimate lives the same way Jikook guard theirs? But also friends they know that love them for them, know them for them and wouldn’t drop them because they were weirded out or even homophobic. Like minded friends. Friends that would treat either Jimin or Jungkook with the same love and respect they treat their initial friend be it Jimin or Jungkook.

Jimin has no issue cutting people off that don’t love and respect his members, how much more his closest dongsaeng

I do personally believe that friends like Sungwoon & Eunwoo know the depth of jikook’s relationship. Complete speculation on my part. They’re examples of friends in the industry that know how to talk and tell stories about their friendships with Jikook without revealing much private business at all, they’re years long friends, also media trained, also in their industry etc.

We’ve seen Cha Eunwoo have a good friendship with Jimin too (I talk about the 97z later below)

Jimin, during the group’s break in 2019, went travelling with friends to Paris, Hawaii and Russia, as well as saw family in Busan and spent time in Seoul. After his trip to Paris and before his trip to Hawaii Jimin came back to Korea to celebrate Jungkook’s birthday with him and brought a friend. It’s documented that Jimin travelled to Hawaii with Sungwoon and Paris with his editor friend.

3J and friend

Jimin with editor friend during their spontaneous 2019 trip to Paris

@/zzinu79 also accompanied Jimin to his Brand Ambassadorship event in Paris 2023.

This friend is also close with Hobi and JK. He's also in the industry in a way, working with Hobi on his solo album visuals, working at W Korea Magazine. He also seems to be friend with out and proud k-celeb Holland.

At Hobipalooza & JITB listening party. very close friend of Jimin & Hobi (and Jungkook) W Magazine Editor @zinzu79, also friend of k-celeb Holland, model and another of Hobi's friends Irene.

Jikook & @/zzinu79 spotted at JITB party

Others

I think there are also non celeb (but around celebs) friends that Jimin and Jungkook feel comfortable to share the depths of their relationship with too.

Like Jungkook’s boxing trainer and their tattoo artist

Twitter Thread

Jimin, in the comments of Jungkook’s boxing live, talking to Jungkook’s boxing coach

Jungkook telling his coach that Jimin said he’d come soon

Jungkook became a trainee when he was around what 13? He graduated middle school as a trainee and graduated high school as a full fledged member of BTS. It’s safe to assume that he wasn’t able to form many if any deep friendships with his school peers due to his trainee and idol lifestyle. That afterwards keeping up with those friendships may have proved impossible.

97z

I don’t personally think Jungkook has many long lasting friendships from middle or high school and the years before that friendships from Busan, unless linked to family probably also fell by the wayside. So I do think friends like the 97z are the main extent of Jungkook’s friend groups. I could be TOTALLY wrong and Jungkook has done well to keep and nurture years long, non-celeb friendships we’ve never seen or heard of.

I think we can say for certain that Jimin is close with Eunwoo, as I linked above, we've seen Mingyu hang with JK and friend ChajkaW (zzinu79), Mingyu may also along with the 97z that JK is closest to, know more about the depth of Jikook's relationship, or they may just know JK and Jimin to be closer than close but not labelled.

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GOT7’s BamBam captioned "97. I love you my friends," which included himself, GOT7’s Yugyeom, BTS’ Jungkook, and SEVENTEEN’s Mingyu, DK, and The8—all smiles backstage at the 2016 KBS Song Festival.

SEVENTEEN's Mingyu, BTS' Jungkook, GOT7's Yugyeom, and ASTRO's Cha Eunwoo in 2019 | @min9yu_k

Jungkook, SEVENTEEN’s Mingyu, Jaehyun, DK & The8, GOT7’s BamBam & Yugyeom, ASTRO’s Cha Eunwoo and most recently Stray Kids Bang Chan

Non Celeb Friends

Jimin on the other hand places friendships very very high in terms of importance, he holds them close and puts a lot of effort into them, he has not just celeb friends but also non-celeb friends.

Top - Jimin’s high school friend SunJin (woman with Orange hair Jimin). Botom - high school friend Daehoon.

I think there are also chosen friends that aren’t celebs that Jimin has shared Jungkook with and in doing so can’t help but revel the level of their intimacy

Jimin during his live with RM - talking about hanging out with is friends and Jungkook in London

Jimin & Jungkook hanging out with Jungkook's friends during rest day in their world tour schedules. Park 'I don't share my friends' Jimin.

TL;DR

So to answer your question anon. Yes I think those closest to Jikook, the members, friends and family know.

I hope my answer wasn’t too all over the place 😅

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nizhonibangtan · 1 year ago

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Relationship Reading for Park Jimin and Jeon Jungkook - Tarot Reading (2024)

[This reading covers the relationship dynamic between Jeon Jungkook and Park Jimin on a subconscious and energetic level. This particular reading can cover romantic, platonic, and familial relationships and is designed to put a connection between two people into perspective, showcasing what is gained from the relationship and what the highest potential of the connection is. I used The Linestrider’s Journey Tarot for this reading. This spread is an original design by me. This reading lasted less than 1 hour.]

Reading Performed: July 4, 2024

Posted: July 11, 2024

Overall Collective Energy

There’s quite a bit going on here, and the energy of these cards strangely moves across them, progressing into one card after the other while still maintaining individual projections that settle more on one over the other.

At the head of this set, there is Change, which was present in the Group Energy Analysis for the collective external influence for the whole group. Things are changing, evolving, rebuilding, reconstructing. This progresses into a lower state, a more physical state with Chop Wood where the physical surroundings, demands, and expectations for them change into something closer to chores or hard labor — enlistment.

Them being in this state physically and consciously, together but apart from most of the group and the public opens the doors to The Fates where things are being woven together for something new. For both of them together, but also separately as individuals. They seem to be balancing something here with each other, or the balance that they have naturally with each other is helping The Fates, or their Guides, assist in some level of soul progression or a literal weaving of a new path or level of development for them that will be more clear later on.

The Fates, or their efforts, reverberate downward into a more physical and energetic state of Exaltation (Moon in Taurus), which feels very connected to Jungkook’s Nine of Pentacles and Jimin’s Companionship cards in the GEA. The physical abundance, reward, and success of Exaltation reflect the Nine of Pentacles. At the same time, the dual or mirrored image, the balance of two cornucopias tied together with ribbons, reflects Companionship. Honestly, it almost feels like the stardust that falls from what The Fates are weaving is what makes up Exhaultation. It’s not something they can physically enjoy or really take in, it’s energy or emotion that they’re swimming in because of what they are experiencing with the success of their work in the world and their personal connection while enlisted.

This energy, or this quite warm and friendly energy within Exhaultation encourages the production or the simulation of the Fourth House. As in, they are creating a sense of home or personal foundation together, within each other, and as The Fates and Exhaultation sit at the center of the spread, I feel like this was intended. As in, their Guides want them to create a kind of “home” together to keep each other grounded.

In Jimin’s GEA set, that was a pretty big point, however, Jungkook didn’t seem to be in need of grounding or assistance with foundation, but I would assume that means he’s supplying it. Very similar to the energy between Cancer and Capricorn (4th and 10th House), Cancer brings about the nurturing or softer insides of the home (Companionship) and Capricorn brings about the more structured, hardened, and therefore secure and protective walls that encapsulate the home (Nine of Pentacles).

Side note — just wrote all that and remembered that Jungkook’s other card in the GEA was Charity which is Saturn in Cancer. This also combines those energy of the 4th and 10th Houses, or Cancer and Capricorn as Saturn in the ruler of Capricorn. So, yeah, that just pushes the whole creating a home for each other in a not-so-homey place, but it is just a bit more for Jimin’s sake at this time. Jimin curates the softness and Jungkook curates the protection for that softness, and I really can’t help but make another note of how they really do seem to have switched places in terms of who looks out for and protects who the most. I imagine when they’re back out in the world again, and they’re both in more comfortable spaces again, they’ll be even closer because of the fact that they’ve both occupied both sides of their dynamic. It creates a really strong bond based on trust and vulnerability.

Lastly, the Nine of Wands at the end there, feels like something sitting at the threshold of the 4th House, like something literally standing in the doorway of your home. The Nine of Wands is about paranoia and anticipating something bad happening, which really seems to reflect what I was getting with Jimin in the GEA. Even more so, this card is interesting with its depiction as it is described as the outer wands skeptically or fearfully watching the wand that is on the screen. They’re expecting the image to do something, and just like I was seeing for Jimin, it’s like he’s anticipating something based on what he’s seen or heard around him, but it’s not something (or someone) who can actually get to him physically. No one would allow it, but there’s just such a shadow to it, it’s like he really can’t shake the fear or anxiety that some people around him are causing with their words or actions towards other people.

Jimin’s Projection: Two of Wands Jungkook’s Projection: The Magician

Within the current state of their connections, these cards represent what Jimin and Jungkook are individually projecting into their relationship with each other. This is purely energetic and doesn’t necessarily reflect emotional connection or conscious-level projection.

Here, Jimin has the Two of Wands and Jungkook has the Magician. Both of them feel similar in terms of planning something with a clear vision in mind, just on different levels. The Two of Wands plans to move around quite a bit while The Magician plans to bring something to fruition, bring something to life, or manifest something. The difference between the two in terms of how these energies are implemented, at least as they are coming through here, the Two of Wands is a slow burn project, while The Magician snaps his fingers and it simply appears.

The Magician also focuses on personal transformation that is very deliberate, changing from the inside-out. The Two of Wands feels a bit more focused on a change of environment, a plan to change things from the outside-in. I feel this is coming through as Jungkook being very focused on what he is going to do once he is finished with his enlistment, possibly working on stuff already, while Jimin is mostly focused on just getting the heck out of there. It’s almost like, with the world globe sitting on the ground behind the rabbit, rather than in front where it can be focused on, he can’t even begin to think about the future too much while he is feeling quite uncomfortable or nervous about his current location or position.

Jimin's projection, as well as the image of the rabbit in the Two of Wands, brought to mind the Rabbit card from The Wild Unknown: Animal Spirit deck. For reference here is the full description of this card:

“Afraid of everything, overwhelmed, frozen — The Rabbit loves to remind his friends that someday the Eagle will swoop down and eat him. He talks and talks and talks about it, so loudly in fact… that one day the Eagle hears and thanks him for the great idea. Rabbit energy is alive when we are scared (most often about the future) and we become our own worst enemy. We spin up a dust cloud of fear and then complain to others that we are lost. Notice your thoughts and words, oh Rabbit… they shape your destiny.”

Now, imagine Jimin did have The Magician as his projection, a perfect mirror to Jungkook’s energy, but then this Rabbit hopped into Jimin’s line of sight and brought him into the space of the Two of Wands instead. That’s how it feels. Jimin has all of the energy and potential that Jungkook does, especially right now, but there’s so much discomfort and anxiety where he is right now that he can’t think that far ahead or worry about anything else, and if he does, it just seems to add to the stress.

How Jimin Sees Jungkook: Four of Pentacles How Jungkook Sees Jimin: Two of Pentacles

This set shows, based on their projections and the overall dynamic of the relationship, how they both see each other now. Here, Jimin sees Jungkook as the Four of Pentacles while Jungkook sees Jimin as the Two of Pentacles. I thought this was so interesting because it follows that same kind of mirroring, but brought down a level with the Two of Wands and the Rabbit. It’s like they’re both supposed to be Four of Pentacles, stable and secure, but Jungkook is seeing that there’s some kind of imbalance happening with Jimin, something he’s not hearing about, but something he’s seeing. While he stands as The Magician, secure in the Four of Pentacles here, he sees Jimin balancing on one foot, or struggling to hold what he has.

Rather than the actual meanings of the cards, I’m so much more focused on the numbers and the element of Earth in relation to the Pentacles. They both see each other as foundation or stability, they see each other as security, but there is a noticeable separation that I feel like they’re both trying to ignore especially because I don’t think it’s ever been like this before where there was this much turmoil in one while the other was practically floating by. It seems like such a difficult thing to grasp because it’s like Jungkook can SEE this, but there’s not much he can do about what’s going on INSIDE of Jimin, all he can do, until Jimin talks more directly, is protect his outsides and simply let his presence be that extra footing or balance that he needs until he, as we saw in his Charity card, can pick Jimin up and just run out of there when they’re finished with their enlistment.

Current State of The Relationship: The Devil (rev.) + Four of Swords (rev.)

I think I’ve seen this before in one of their readings where the current state of the relationship was completely dictated by Jimin and here it is the same, but unfortunately it doesn’t really showcase their relationship as much as it showcases Jimin’s relationship with their relationship if that makes sense. I really wish I could access the full versions of previous readings because I swear there was something before in one of the readings about Jimin kind of putting a wall up between himself and Jungkook because he thought it was safer or better for Jungkook if he did that. It had something to do with emotional disconnect and fear of judgment or backlash from the public.

This is a little bit similar to that, but it seems like a further projection of Jimin’s perhaps anxious or unnerved state. He’s seeing their relationship as The Devil, as something that is toxic or a burden on Jungkook, but it’s almost like Jungkook is the one who came around and flipped this card on its head saying, “yeah, no, that’s ridiculous.” And then Jungkook would throw out the Four of Swords and say, “this is us, we’re resting, we just need to relax, it’s okay, I’ll watch you while you sleep so you can feel safe.” And then Jimin flips that card on its head and says, “yeah, no, that’s ridiculous.”

They’re so in sync with each other but so not at the same time, it’s very confusing, but I think that’s what is shown with Change and even The Fates where something is in an odd state of transition, including their relationship.

The images of the cards have an odd mirror between them as well with the two people in The Devil tied together back-to-back, as if they’re trying to get away from each other but can’t. With their heads down and arms covering their faces, it’s like they’ve passed out or given up trying to escape. But then, on the Four of Swords, there’s a lion sleeping peacefully, head down on its paws. They’re the same image basically, but seen in very, very different lights, and both sides disagree with the other.

It sounds odd, but it keeps hitting my mind as if it’s literally about sleep. Like Jimin can’t sleep well so Jungkook would watch him or be close by to let him sleep more comfortably, but Jimin sees that situation as The Devil, as two people tied together, as if Jungkook doesn’t have a choice or is sacrificing something for him. But then from Jungkook’s perspective, he’s literally just… watching him sleep, as if Jimin is the lion in the image.

Jimin sees this situation as very sharp and toxic for Jungkook, but Jungkook sees the situation as soft and necessary for both their comfort, but mainly for Jimin's well-being.

Highest Potential/Next Step: Ten of Cups (rev.) + Eight of Cups (rev.)

These two are so dramatic, I swear. If this is following the same pattern as the previous set, then these reflect their own split perceptions or expectations for the highest potential or next step of their relationship. For reference, here are some excerpts from the descriptions of these cards so you can know why I’m calling them dramatic:

“Ten of Cups Reversed — It’s very hard to see this card in a negative context; it is really one of the most positive cards in the deck. Sometimes the deck can warn that a current course of action is placing your family and home life at risk. If the card is shown with The Devil, the Moon, or several swords cards, examine the source of contention and confusion in your life. Is there a persona around you that is actively working against your stability and happiness?”

“Eight of Cups Reversed — In its reversed aspect, this card suggests that you may be confused or conflicted about the path forward. Disappointment and disillusionment might have you at a standstill. Perhaps you feel unhappy or dissatisfied but can’t clearly see a path forward. Try to focus entirely on yourself for a minute, think hard about what you need and want as well as what might be preventing that from happening. If your job, relationship, or current path are not helping you reach your full potential, think hard about how to make that change. Delaying hard decisions does not make things easier in the long run.”

Now imagine Jimin saying all of that to try and convince Jungkook that their relationship is The Devil, or he himself is The Devil.

The way I’m seeing this is so ridiculous because it looks like they’re not allowing things to move, they’re waiting for the other to "move on" — as in, Jimin’s waiting for Jungkook to literally drop him like the Eight of Cups drops emotional baggage before moving along on his solo journey, and Jungkook is waiting for Jimin to move on from this emotional disconnect and stop looking at them like that, like The Devil.

Basically, Jungkook is waiting for or anticipating the Ten of Cups (upright) as the next step of their relationship, but Jimin flipped that and said “no, remember The Devil,” and Jimin presents the Eight of Cups to Jungkook like, ‘this is what YOU are supposed to do, leave me here, and go!” and Jungkook’s like lol funny, and just picks Jimin up, shoves him in his backpack, and carries him across the river anyway. Someone tell me why they're like this and what the hell happened in the last like four years that brought them to this because… what kind of cosmic angst-ridden drama are these two souls stirring up in the higher dimensions for these two to be projecting energetic arguments like this??

Just so we don’t have to leave off with their energetic quarrel, I pulled extra cards with focus on The Fates, or more specifically, their Guides and what exactly they’re trying to do with them together, or what they are meant to move into together once they’re in a better position and both more comfortable. With that, they got the Seven of Pentacles and The World card. I’ll include pieces of their descriptions as well:

“Seven of Pentacles — In a relationship reading, this card speaks to family and future happiness gathering rather than quick, passionate flings. Sometimes this card may appear when you feel frustrated that your efforts are not paying off. The Seven of Pentacles encourages you to keep working hard. You may not see it yet, but your efforts will be rewarded. This is especially true when you see the Star card. If your reading includes a Ten or the World, this cycle of hard labor will soon end.”

“The World — The World is the final card in the major arcana. It symbolizes completion, achievement, and fulfillment. This card generally indicates that a cycle is coming to a close, heralding a new phase in life. The dancer, surrounded by a wreath of victory, looks out on the world with the experience and perspective of the road already traveled. In the present position, this card indicates that your work is coming to fruition though it may be difficult for you to currently see things in a positive light. In very literal terms, this card may speak of a physical journey, traveling the world, especially when seen with the Fool or the Two of Wands. Perhaps you are looking at a new career that has been enabled by a degree you completed. Maybe you formed a strong partnership or marriage in years past and are seeing the effects of that union in your current situation. In the future position, this card reminds you to “hold on,” and that all your work and investment will pay off even if you can’t see it coming together yet. Paired with the Magician, The World is a powerful omen that not only allows you to accomplish your goals but indicates that others will see what you have done and want to be part of it.”

It feels like the Seven of Pentacles is more for Jungkook while The World is for Jimin, both of which would be alongside each other. It’s kind of interesting to think of it in that light with The World being mentioned in the Seven of Pentacles description, while The Magician, Jungkook’s current projection, showing up in The World’s description. It’s almost like the message for them would be to wait for Jimin to get to that high point. He’s supposed to be even higher than The Magician, in terms of development, but eye-to-eye in terms of how they cycle each other.

While The Fool is the first card in the major arcana, it’s number 0, marking it as a card of potential, while The Magician is number 1, which is that snap! I mentioned where he could just “make something appear.” The World card marks the completion of The Fool’s journey through the major arcana, and holds the higher vibrations or energy of the four elements, while The Magician holds the physical representation of them.

Essentially, it’s like, Jungkook’s support now is connected to the idea of The Magician having the physical elements on his side, represented by the suits of the tarot - Cups/Water, Wands/Fire, Swords/Air, and Pentacles/Earth - while Jimin has the energy of those elements on his. If they combine, they genuinely form magic, like cosmic magic, but right now, Jimin is not at his absolute peak yet. On some level, to some degree, he’s pushing Jungkook away, but another part of him, probably his Higher Self which may line up more with The World, is holding on for dear life because where is all the energy supposed to go without him?

It's kind of making me feel how his soul did when it came to the Soul Body separation. As Jimin was the Heart of the body, representing the Heart Chakra, when all the others started to separate, there's this sense of loss of purpose. What is a heart to do when there is no body to pump blood or energy through, when there are no other souls to anchor in?

This is kind of reminding me of the lovely reflection and duality of Adam and Eve, specifically in the context of the Divine Masculine and the Divine Feminine. Adam is the Atom, the “cell” of matter, while Eve, or Evvvvvee, is the vibration that brings those atoms to life and starts to form everything in existence. If we visualize this we see Adam as the egg, and Eve as the sperm, but obviously, physically, the female holds the egg while the male holds the sperm. It’s always just been an interesting macrocosm vs microcosm type of thing that I like to think about sometimes, and this aspect between them as The Magician and The World, as energy within one matching “physical” conduits in the other is really interesting. They’re showing to be very strong counterparts, very necessary for each other's progression.

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