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SHIT I FORGOT ABOUT THESE ASKS

ok lets see… we haveee los prisioneros lore.. post steven timeline.. ohh this ones a good one (picks up a book and blows out the dust to reveal the name “typology shit” in the cover)

might as well ramble about my mbti and enneagram hc for my blorbo bc thats been on my mind again and its fun when analyzing fictional characters

smth that i differ with the personality database for steven’s and two brains’ is the different personalities, i do like the contrast of having their functions and enneagrams switched to be more extroverted/introverted than the other, but i lean more towards the belief of two brains just being an unhealthy version of steven. this obviously depends on who you think two brains is but please have this in mind when reading this lmao.

so in order to get to two brains, im gonna start by observing steven. steven is a clearrrrr Ne-Si user, he’s too much of a “pulling new ideas from a vague present (food rambling when its mentioned, getting off topic when something in the present reminds him of something in the past (Si) and then that generating multiple ideas, a process where you can track back to where the idea came from)” to be an Ni user. to compliment this he also doesn’t seem to fixate on a certain idea until he’s done exhausting it (after the idea of checking wordgirl out comes up, he doesn’t fixate on a certain test, rather trying multiple stuff and once everything has been corroborated he lets the idea go, where he could have continued doing test after test if he was an Ni user). regarding Se, he’s not focused on the tangible present enough for it to be in his stack, however it would depend on his extroverted judging function how he expresses it (either Fe or Te) and from the literal 3 mins we have of him he’s not rigorous with his job or human interactions LMAO (idk why im arguing so much against him being a Se-Ni/Ni-Se user, literally look at him and how he ended up as two brains. his bitchass lost focus (not Ni) of the world around him (not Se) due to a SANDWICH (very Ne-Si core)).

however im not so sure about if he’s on a Ti-Fe or a Te-Fi axis. this second part arrises from how “theorical” Ti users usually are and how. steven is NOT.

taking in mind how he is definitely not a Se user, having Ne as his main extroverted observing function makes him not fit how theorical and systematic the Ti users tend to be. the way he interacts with the world IS nice and charismatic, however i don’t think it rises from Fe, due to him not being afraid to correct or make comments (him going “i. know?” when wordgirl defines a word, him making a comment about how absurd the butcher sounds as a villain “and he’s a bad guy?”), only after getting an objective explanation from the outside world (“i know you know, but they may not”, “yeah, he attacks with meat”) he makes sense of it and files it away inside his mind. It’s not like he doesn’t care about social interactions or he finds them difficult either, but his encounter with worldgirl seems very “fixed set of values, acting how i feel instead of how i should” (Fi) to me, which is perfect timing for me to argue about him being a Te user.

now, before you read this i need you to throw out the stereotype of Te users being bossy and only caring about efficiency rather than true knowledge. every type can use any function as needed, and the basis of Te users is “gathering as much objective info as possible from the outside world (in this case in help of Ne, a blurry holistic lens to the outside), storing it systematically with the help of Si and then putting it into practice in the outside world” while for Ti users is “gathering objective info from the outside world (in this case with Ne, a blurry holistic lens to the outside), storing it systematically with the help of Si and then make sense of everything by filling in the gaps with your own thinking”. (this can also apply to Fe/Fi btw, but with subjective info like ethics and human interactions).

seeing this, and looking at how outward steven is about his objective explanations, not caring (or noticing) that other people need his attention (aka the social atmosphere), his need to materialize every invention even when he doesn’t have everything figured out (the mind reading experiment), his collective nature towards outside knowledge (needing extensive details about the butcher, wordgirl’s multiple tests, his need for the audience to be explained) to then apply it to the real world instead of collecting it for the sake of knowledge first and foremost.. is that a Ti-Fe user to you?

of course he isn’t pure Te-Ne when thinking abstractly either! he def uses Ti-Ni when he assumes the narrator can affect the world around him (however he is wrong, since these arent part of his main stack, he doesn’t notice how theres no proof of them having any effect on the world).

so now we established he is a Ne-Si, Te-Fi user, we have the possibility of him being a ENFP, INFP, ESTJ and ISTJ (begging you on my knees to not look at the stereotypes of these functions PLEASEE) but how are they arranged? for that, i think we should turn our heads into analyzing dr two brains now.

with all that stuff above in mind, two brains strikes me as a Te-Fi axis. Ti-Fe would suggest he cares about the social atmosphere even a little bit (which he does not, his moral values are either being completely ignored or have changed really drastically with the introduction of squeaky) and again, Ti is way too theoretical for him, maybe he’s using it wrong due to how unhealthy he is, but you can see the value he places on stuff just working and showing it off for everyone to see (very Te-Fi to me). take in mind Fi can be very hard to spot, especially because the values of the Fi user can be very similar to the Fe’s (an Fi user could very easily value harmony and respect as an internal universal principle, while a Fe user could seem very individualistic if thats what the society they live in values), but it is important to determine where they come from instead of what they are, and how flexible they might be. looking at two brains again, he doesn’t shape himself to be more digestible, he’s unapologetically himself. he’s not charismatic because he values social harmony, he’s charismatic if that helps him with his (irrational?) goal (cheese) (oo unhealthy Te-Fi user alerttt).

talking about cheese, i’m not so sure about if he is Se-Ni or Ne-Si. why? cheese!! my main problem is cheese!!!! and his absolute devotion to it. his complete dismissal of his health and friendships just to achieve this one goal, this one pleasure, is soo characteristic of a Ni-Se user being on a Se grip or a Te-Se loop.. so if you think he’s a different entity from steven, INTJ, ENTJ or even ESFP would be great fits. However im standing by him being the same personality type throughout the whole process so might i propose…. ESTJ (Te-Si-Ne-Fi)/ENFP (Ne-Fi-Te-Si)??

i’m pulling ISTJ (Si-Te-Fi-Ne) out of the picture because there’s no damn way he is a Ne Inf as steven, and INFP (Fi-Ne-Si-Te) because these, like INTPs, fall into the “theorical” category really hard, which is definitely not something that comes to steven naturally.

Now to make the final vederict, i think we should look at the unhealthy (on a loop/grip) versions of an ENFP and ESTJ.

ENFPs

- Ne-Te loop: Ne unites with Te in every matter, leading to the abandonment of Fi (personal values, aka an internal middle man) for the sake of new experiences in the present. Here Ne is in the lead, coming up with new ideas as usual, but without the filter that might be Fi, which leads to reckless decisions such as commitments, where Te has to try to clean up the mess, usually ending in a burnout

- Si grip: here, Si (inf function) is used when everything else has failed (which in cases like his. yeah makes sense). this leads to using it as a main function without the skill other types might have. so this causes a loss of creativity, the looping of unpleasant memories and an extremely aware state of ones body (for the worse).

ENTJs

- Te-Ne loop: Te unites with Ne, leading to the abandonment of Si (past sensorial knowledge, aka a middle man) for the sake of outward knowledge and action, usually with a motivator. Here, Te is in the lead as usual, but without the filter that is Si. with Ne supplementing ideas, this can lead to workaholic tendencies and impulsive decisions making, usually ending in burnout.

- Fi grip: here, Fi (inf function) is used when everything else has failed (which in cases like his. yeah makes sense). this leads to using it as a main function without the skill other types might have. so this causes emotional sensitivity, irritability, loss of personal values/identity that can lead to a worse, but stronger set of values, and a defensive attitude towards all this.

both of these have the common characteristic of being outward loops that lead to dumb decision taking and acting, however i think the big difference comes from the grips, where Si might incite a retreat to a safe space, Fi is still very outward and noticeable in how two brains reacts to criticism and his distancing from steven (past values).

to compliment my conclusion, we have to take into account how irrational two brains’ motivations are. he’s selfish and constantly takes into account how dumb some of his plans are (telling us a lot about his impulsive behavior) and a lot of his decisions are purely based on this primal feeling to not feel pain/hunger.

phew, now that i’m out of the MBTI typing, let’s see enneagram typing. this one is by far easier since you can see his motivation throughout the show, but shaping it to fit steven might require more headcanon influence than i thought.

steven is a normal 3w4, he is autenthic, motivated, and confident in his achievements, while being a bit of a show-off and always looking out for more, but not to a detrimental effect (yet). this also explains his good use of Ne-Fi even as an ESTJ.

two brains is an unhealthy 3w4, he depends on attention, thinks he’s superior to everyone and is afraid of losing his status as the #1 villain, adding to this, it is shown in “the ballad of steve mcclean”, when he loses all status he retreats back and becomes apathetic to life, rotting in his warehouse (aka showing traits of a 9 when in stress).

feel free to correct me on stuff i may have missed btw. i’m doing all this from memory, trusting the info from my fun-pseudoscience hyperfix from a few years back and my memorization of wordgirl scenes, so theres a chance i might have made some mistakes along the way.

again, there is such a good argument of two brains being an INTJ, ESTJ or ESFP due to these fitting like a glove, but i’m stubborn around changing his MBTI due to my personal hc’s.

TDLR: steven/two brains is an ESTJ 3w4. source? trust me bro.

#wordgirl #two brains #steven boxleitner #dr two brains #ramble #my stuff #holy SHIT this took like 4 hours to get done #i was thyping him as i went btw because a lot of these were just thoughts with no connection #mbti #enneagram

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