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penler21fandom · 1 year ago
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I have no problem with al being a bottom, I just have a hard time with bottom king lucifer as a top. May I have examples to try and see your side?
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Dat smirk.
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Soft Top Lucifer
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Demon Top Lucifer
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That sexy shoulder bop
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Look at this guy.
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Obvious one.
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I just wanted to post this one cuz I like his smirky little face.
LOL no, seriously though, there's no specific way a character has to act or behave to be deemed a top, bottom or switch. It's a preferred sexual position that isn't dependent on outside factors, it's just what a person enjoys, and what the reader/viewer wants that character to be. That's essentially what it is. It's not based on logic, it's based on what position the fan prefers for them to be in.
Lucifer could do his sexy little shoulder bop and still be a bottom. He can give the most suave, seductive smirk and still be a bottom. It's different for everyone.
But as for why I like top!Lucifer, here are a few reasons:
A) I really like it when shorties top. So often, in almost all fandoms I've been in, the default for a popular ship is the shorter one bottoming and the taller one topping. As a shortie myself, I just...ugh, I get so tired of it. Especially since the bottom is typically softened, UwU-ified, and turned into this delicate little flower. Bringing personal feelings into this, I've been very short and very thin all my life. I've literally been described as "delicate" before, and as someone who enjoys sports, running around, and is just a loud, rough and tumble person by nature, I absolutely hate it. It's given me a lot of mental and emotional issues, and a lot of the treatment and comments I've gotten has made me feel belittled, vulnerable, and weak. So, while being a bottom doesn't mean you're any of those things, short characters have been treated like that for a majority of the fandoms I've been in, no matter what their personality, stature, behaviors, or attitude was, and seeing it brings out of love of dark and negative feelings that I'd rather not re-live when I'm trying to enjoy myself in fandom. (Which is another reason why I dislike so much bottom!Lucifer because he's so often softened down and turned into this naive, dare I say, helpless little lamb. The moment Alastor overpowers him or easily manipulates him into a deal, I am outta there.)
B) Lucifer has that top energy. Can't explain it. He just does. To be clear, I don't see him exclusively as a top. He's a switch. But I do headcanon Alastor as exclusively a bottom, so in any radioapple relationship I write or draw, Lucifer will top.
and C) the most important reason: I like seeing Alastor get railed.
Alastor bottoms in all the ships I have for him and Lucifer is no exception. Besides, I find a lot of versatility and potential in Lucifer being with/fucking a sinner, especially considering his distaste of them. Makes for a good hate-fucking scenario, or a very emotional and in-depth character deep dive of him coming to terms with his own bias and internalized hatred of them and finding love and companionship in one of the very people he despised. That's some delicious mental turmoil and the perfect opportunity for character development.
(LOL there's a lot of talk of Alastor not bottoming because of his ego, and yet nobody considers that maybe Lucifer wouldn't bottom for Alastor because he's a sinner. He is the embodiment of pride after all. So, combining that with his disdain for sinners, would he really "stoop" so low as to let one of them fuck him? Food for thought).
But seriously though, when it comes down to it, I just like Alastor bottoming and Lucifer topping. Yes, bottom!Lucifer and top!Alastor has been soured for me due to popular fandom depictions of it, but even before those were popular, I simply preferred Alastor bottoming. I enjoy it more, not just for his character, but just...because. I just do.
Thing is, I don't think there has to be a list of reasons for why you prefer a character topping, bottoming, or switching. People are allowed to do whatever they want with these characters. It's fandom. This is a playground. We don't have to have a reason, we're just here to have fun.
If you can't see Lucifer as a top, Anon, that is a-okay 👍👍Thanks for asking for a different perspective though, it's always awesome when a person seeks to understand someone else's point of view. I don't know how well of a different perspective I offered, though. I have a hard time answering questions like these bcuz they just don't make a lot of sense to me. It's hard to say why I like something when I just...do. I just vibe with it.
To boil it all down, my examples/answers are all based on what I like and how I feel. I like bottom!Alastor cuz I enjoy it. I like top!Lucifer because I love seeing Alastor get railed - especially by a big, powerful demon king. Very yummy.
Also, LOL, considering Alastor is exclusively a bottom to me, anyone I do ship him with will automatically be the top, regardless of who they are XD So I guess that's an important factor to consider too 😂
I don't know how well I did with answering this, but I do want you to get the perspective you were looking for, so! My fellow bottom!Alastor truthers who are reading this, drop why you like bottom!Alastor in the comments below for our lovely Anon!
I'm curious about what you guys have to say too.
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penler21fandom · 1 year ago
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Hazbin Hotel - Alastor Prequel Comic (”The Radio Demon”/”A Day in the After Life”)
Mirroring from the main Hazbin Hotel website in case the site goes down for some reason, and also to keep track of what was posted when (and thus when it became canon). Go read it on the original site. First page here.
Comic originally posted 19 October 2020.
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penler21fandom · 1 year ago
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he is not just the fruit but the entire basket (to me < 3)
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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FIONNA(My Take) - PART III
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Here are some pics with slim characters. And irl women that would fit her body type closely to canon.
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FIONNA(My Take) - PART I
I keep seeing all these takes and complaints about Fionna's body type. So to destress, I'll just put my own take here. These are from observations, research, etc. as well!
First I'll put out some screenshots of how Natasha draws Fionna.
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If you're wondering why her waist goes in despite being chubby; Thats because she's pear/ plum chubby. Notice how compared to the other Plus characters, her upper body is thinner and its much closer to the thin characters upper builds, albeit she has slightly thicker arms and broader shoulders (implying some of the chubbiness went there too). Now notice how her lower body is closer to the plus characters lower builds since the skinny AT characters are shown to have noodly legs. NOODLY = NORMAL AVERAGE LEGS That's why her waist is still small(her upper body is much smaller than her lower in comparison to the other Plus AT Characters), and also why her chubs only show when she bends or sits, because most of the "chubbiness" is below her waist and some on her shoulder and arms so they don't look noodly. This is how Natasha and the crew draw Fionna as well,(its pretty obvious when you observe enough to see) and you can tell how her body construction is different from the other plus characters. She's meant to be a different chubby body type.
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Her stomach chubs are mostly noticeable only when she bends or sits. These are some plus characters in comparison to her as well.
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Finn and Fionna are not an actual variant of each other. They contrast each other, adult finns build(both farm and OG) are inverted triangle while fionna is triangle/ pear.
Women tend to develop at the ripe age of teenage years(12/14 above), most of my fellow teens at the time did so, including myself.
Even I gained a chest in 5th grade, I was 9-10 at the time.
Curves shouldn't even be sexualized in the first place to begin with, theyre naturally there, whether its very noticeable or just slight. Even with thin characters like PB and Marcy, their curves were still there.
For Fionna who is pear/ triangle shaped chubby, the curves would of course be more noticeable because of this body type.
Fat distribution works differently for both sexes(you can search that up via Google)
Fionna is Bunny-inspired, merely an OC of Natasha who is inspired by Finn. She is not a version of Finn. (Ex; Peridot was inspired by Invader Zim)
Fionna being bunny inspired, has bunny-like features. Bunnies are built with strong thick legs or lower bodies as their defense.
If people are complaining about her design. Think of Flame Princess, her build is closely similar to Fionnas, and yet her gender-bend Flame Prince is built differently as well.
Young Fionna was already 14-16 at the time of introduction. At this age, most girls are already closely physically matured. (Highschool already proves that if you observe the girls ages 14 and up, some even develop at an early age believe it or not)
Fionna simply matured earlier as women mature earlier but then their maturing stops at a certain point. While men mature slower physically but then suddenly gains a growth spurt later in life so while their growth is stunted at first, it happens fast when theyre at a certain age. Like how Finn would look the same till 16, only taller, but most likely after his growth spurt, he becomes the finn we see in the spin offs, combined with his adventuring lifestyle. Fionna looks the same, just with a thicker mass, because her growth happened early but stopped after she'd reached the physical maturing endpoint for women.
Different body types exist. AT had these, it just so happens that most of the recurring characters were thin, like PB and Marcy.
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The similarity with Apple Chubby is that both still gain some fat on their shoulders and arms because again, any type of chubby still has distributed fat in this area cause they're still slightly overweight. The difference is that; Besides their arms and shoulders, other parts of the body fat distribution went elsewhere. For Apple, it is most apparent on their waist and stomach, then a little on their legs, etc. For Pear, there's a slight stomach chub that is apparent when one bends, kneels, or squeezes. But the majority has been distributed below their waist(Hips, leg, thigh, etc).
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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FIONNA(My Take) - PART I
I keep seeing all these takes and complaints about Fionna's body type. So to destress, I'll just put my own take here. These are from observations, research, etc. as well!
First I'll put out some screenshots of how Natasha draws Fionna.
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If you're wondering why her waist goes in despite being chubby; Thats because she's pear/ plum chubby. Notice how compared to the other Plus characters, her upper body is thinner and its much closer to the thin characters upper builds, albeit she has slightly thicker arms and broader shoulders (implying some of the chubbiness went there too). Now notice how her lower body is closer to the plus characters lower builds since the skinny AT characters are shown to have noodly legs. NOODLY = NORMAL AVERAGE LEGS That's why her waist is still small(her upper body is much smaller than her lower in comparison to the other Plus AT Characters), and also why her chubs only show when she bends or sits, because most of the "chubbiness" is below her waist and some on her shoulder and arms so they don't look noodly. This is how Natasha and the crew draw Fionna as well,(its pretty obvious when you observe enough to see) and you can tell how her body construction is different from the other plus characters. She's meant to be a different chubby body type.
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Her stomach chubs are mostly noticeable only when she bends or sits. These are some plus characters in comparison to her as well.
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Finn and Fionna are not an actual variant of each other. They contrast each other, adult finns build(both farm and OG) are inverted triangle while fionna is triangle/ pear.
Women tend to develop at the ripe age of teenage years(12/14 above), most of my fellow teens at the time did so, including myself.
Even I gained a chest in 5th grade, I was 9-10 at the time.
Curves shouldn't even be sexualized in the first place to begin with, theyre naturally there, whether its very noticeable or just slight. Even with thin characters like PB and Marcy, their curves were still there.
For Fionna who is pear/ triangle shaped chubby, the curves would of course be more noticeable because of this body type.
Fat distribution works differently for both sexes(you can search that up via Google)
Fionna is Bunny-inspired, merely an OC of Natasha who is inspired by Finn. She is not a version of Finn. (Ex; Peridot was inspired by Invader Zim)
Fionna being bunny inspired, has bunny-like features. Bunnies are built with strong thick legs or lower bodies as their defense.
If people are complaining about her design. Think of Flame Princess, her build is closely similar to Fionnas, and yet her gender-bend Flame Prince is built differently as well.
Young Fionna was already 14-16 at the time of introduction. At this age, most girls are already closely physically matured. (Highschool already proves that if you observe the girls ages 14 and up, some even develop at an early age believe it or not)
Fionna simply matured earlier as women mature earlier but then their maturing stops at a certain point. While men mature slower physically but then suddenly gains a growth spurt later in life so while their growth is stunted at first, it happens fast when theyre at a certain age. Like how Finn would look the same till 16, only taller, but most likely after his growth spurt, he becomes the finn we see in the spin offs, combined with his adventuring lifestyle. Fionna looks the same, just with a thicker mass, because her growth happened early but stopped after she'd reached the physical maturing endpoint for women.
Different body types exist. AT had these, it just so happens that most of the recurring characters were thin, like PB and Marcy.
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The similarity with Apple Chubby is that both still gain some fat on their shoulders and arms because again, any type of chubby still has distributed fat in this area cause they're still slightly overweight. The difference is that; Besides their arms and shoulders, other parts of the body fat distribution went elsewhere. For Apple, it is most apparent on their waist and stomach, then a little on their legs, etc. For Pear, there's a slight stomach chub that is apparent when one bends, kneels, or squeezes. But the majority has been distributed below their waist(Hips, leg, thigh, etc).
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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FIONNA(My Take) - PART I
I keep seeing all these takes and complaints about Fionna's body type. So to destress, I'll just put my own take here. These are from observations, research, etc. as well!
First I'll put out some screenshots of how Natasha draws Fionna.
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If you're wondering why her waist goes in despite being chubby; Thats because she's pear/ plum chubby. Notice how compared to the other Plus characters, her upper body is thinner and its much closer to the thin characters upper builds, albeit she has slightly thicker arms and broader shoulders (implying some of the chubbiness went there too).
Now notice how her lower body is closer to the plus characters lower builds since the skinny AT characters are shown to have noodly legs. NOODLY = NORMAL AVERAGE LEGS
That's why her waist is still small(her upper body is much smaller than her lower in comparison to the other Plus AT Characters), and also why her chubs only show when she bends or sits, because most of the "chubbiness" is below her waist and some on her shoulder and arms so they don't look noodly.
This is how Natasha and the crew draw Fionna as well,(its pretty obvious when you observe enough to see) and you can tell how her body construction is different from the other plus characters. She's meant to be a different chubby body type.
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Her stomach chubs are mostly noticeable only when she bends or sits. These are some plus characters in comparison to her as well.
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Finn and Fionna are not an actual variant of each other. They contrast each other, adult finns build(both farm and OG) are inverted triangle while fionna is triangle/ pear. Natasha mentioned how Fionna was merely inspired by Finn but is not an actual Finn genderbend. This info was also implemented when Prismo mentioned how he had subconsciously inspired Fionna and Cake from Finn and Jake.
Women tend to develop at the ripe age of teenage years(12/14 above), most of my fellow teens at the time did so, including myself.
Even I gained a chest in 5th grade, I was 9-10 at the time.
Curves shouldn't even be sexualized in the first place to begin with, theyre naturally there, whether its very noticeable or just slight. Even with thin characters like PB and Marcy, their curves were still there.
For Fionna who is pear/ triangle shaped chubby, the curves would of course be more noticeable because of this body type.
Fat distribution works differently for both sexes(you can search that up via Google)
Fionna is Bunny-inspired, merely an OC of Natasha who is inspired by Finn. She is not a version of Finn. (Ex; Peridot was inspired by Invader Zim)
Fionna being bunny inspired, has bunny-like features. Bunnies are built with strong thick legs or lower bodies as their defense.
If people are complaining about her design. Think of Flame Princess, her build is closely similar to Fionnas, and yet her gender-bend Flame Prince is built differently as well.
Young Fionna was already 14-16 at the time of introduction. At this age, most girls are already closely physically matured. (Highschool already proves that if you observe the girls ages 14 and up, some even develop at an early age believe it or not)
Fionna simply matured earlier as women mature earlier but then their maturing stops at a certain point. While men mature slower physically but then suddenly gains a growth spurt later in life so while their growth is stunted at first, it happens fast when theyre at a certain age.
Like how Finn would look the same till 16, only taller, but most likely after his growth spurt, he becomes the finn we see in the spin offs, combined with his adventuring lifestyle.
Fionna looks the same, just with a thicker mass, because her growth happened early but stopped after she'd reached the physical maturing endpoint for women.
Different body types exist. AT had these, it just so happens that most of the recurring characters were thin, like PB and Marcy.
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The similarity with Apple Chubby is that both still gain some fat on their shoulders and arms because again, any type of chubby still has distributed fat in this area cause they're still slightly overweight. The difference is that; Besides their arms and shoulders, other parts of the body fat distribution went elsewhere. For Apple, it is most apparent on their waist and stomach, then a little on their legs, etc.
For Pear, there's a slight stomach chub that is apparent when one bends, kneels, or squeezes. But the majority has been distributed below their waist(Hips, leg, thigh, etc).
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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That Giant Barbie and Giant Fionna Scene
THE Blonde's 💅✨
((Rkgk/ Random sketch Idea))
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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✨Boys night✨
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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My true love, Fionna Campbell, i owe you my personal growth and life
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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eternal fionna
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My true love, Fionna Campbell, i owe you my personal growth and life
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Fionna and Cake doodle dump, mostly Simon of course
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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Adventure Time - Fionna and Cake ep 1-2 tomorrow!!
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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RKGK Doodles - A dumb idea i had with Finn and Fionna as Aqua and Ruby lol i love my babies
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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into the finnverse or smth lol
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penler21fandom · 2 years ago
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Various adventure time doodles!
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I've been on an AT rewatch kick lately and they are all so silly... I love AT so much augh wahhh 😭😭😭
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