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Repeat after me: male loneliness epidemic is not real, it is incel propaganda.

Incel ideas are being adopted by "normies" and repeated as a fact, but there is not solid evidence of men being lonely or more lonely than in the past.

The whole incel meme is that men are lonely because women nowadays are more and more hypergamous and sleeping with Chad, implying that in the past it was easier to date or marry women. They call it "hoeflation". It sounds ridiculous, but I have seen radfems and BreadTubers repeating the same idea over and over again with other words.

"Men are lonely because they are pornsick psychos"

"Women are choosing better"

"Guys find it more difficult to date nowadays, since women don't relay on them to make a living"

Incels see this, and they feel they are right, the point is still the same. Today is harder because women are pickier and they are creating sexual inequality. The solution is clear: women should be controlled, sexual revolution was a mistake.

All this panic started more than 10 years ago, in the first Manosphere blogs, such as Rational Male, Return of Kings, Heartiste or forums as SoSuave. The greatest summary of all this ideoloy can be found in the essay "Sexual Utopia in power" by Roger Devlin , a white supremacist.

"It would be more accurate to say that the female sexual instinct is hypergamous. Men may have a tendency to seek sexual variety, but women have simple tastes in the manner of Oscar Wilde: They are always satisfied with the best. By definition, only one man can be the best."

"Women, in fact, have a distinctive sexual utopia corresponding to their hypergamous instincts. In its purely utopian form, it has two parts: First, she mates with her incubus, the imaginary perfect man; and second, he “commits,” or ceases mating with all other women. This is the formula of much pulp romance fiction. The fantasy is strictly utopian, partly because no perfect man exists, but partly also because even if he did, it is logically impossible for him to be the exclusive mate of all the women who desire him."

"An important aspect of hypergamy is that it implies the rejection of most males."

"What happens when female sexual desire is liberated is not an increase in the total amount of sex available to men, but a redistribution of the existing supply. Society becomes polygamous. A situation emerges in which most men are desperate for wives, but most women are just as desperately throwing themselves at a very few exceptionally attractive men."

The author of the essay declared that he took inspiration from "dating forums and websites" and shortly after, those same sites adopted Devlin essay and ideas.

In short, is always the same idea. Women, when given sexual freedom, they "select up" and concentrate their attention in only a few men, leaving the rest as lonely virgins. This situation causes white people erasure, low birthrates, high promiscuity, male depression or even male suicide and West civilization decline. Yep, I'm serious with it; they are basically saying that female nature is the cause of the end of civilizations.

Normies accept the lie

In 2018, GSS published stats about sexual activity among American citizens, and it showed a decrease on men's sexual activity. Most of the time it is read as a male virginity stat, but it is actually about sexual activity that year. Nevertheless, the damage has been done, this stat gets viral everytime is published on social media and it was reported by media such as The Washington Post.

The truth is that 2018 was a weird exception, and it is believed that it was a product of statistical noise, given that in 2021, only 15% of men reported not having sex that year, wich is a number that is not different from other years. The survey included a new variable, sexlessness the last five years:

The truth is clear: men are having sex left and right and only a few of them are virgins for a long period of time. There is not sexlessness or incel epidemic, the average american male, despite being almost obese, get laid every year with women. In the same source, it is explained that most of the sex is happening among couples or friends with benefits.

It is also widely stated that men are more single than ever and there is a singleness crisis among men. This is also untrue, young men have been more single since the 80's or even before. That can be mostly explained due to age gaps relationships, not inceldom; this scenario of some men being single in their youth turned out to be just fine: they didn't die alone and sexless. Also, most single people are not looking for a relationship to being with.

About virginity, at the age of 30 years old, only a small percent of people are virgins.

These are different surveys on the topic being compared. The highest number is close to 5% and corresponds to females, not males.

"In terms of what they themselves stated the reason to be, in the NSFG data 43.5% said it was against their religion or morals, 2.5% didn’t want to get a female pregnant, 3.5% didn’t want an STD, 40.2% hadn’t found the right person yet, 1.2% were in a relationship waiting for the right time, and 12.3% selected ‘other��. So at least half may be wizards ‘voluntarily’ (volwiz?), although you could of course argue that the inability to find a spouse wasn’t quite as voluntary."

So, half the time the virgin ones, want to be virgins. Given the numbers, it's clear that:

Loneliness is not an epidemic among men, only few of them are lonely.

Loneliness, most of the time, is temporary. Those men blossom anyways and find sexual and romantic partners. They are mostly late bloomers.

Only 1% of men at 30 yo is an incel, again, the "problem" here is that some men are late bloomers.

Sometimes people responds me that loneliness is not about on sexlessness, and I agree. But the whole "male loneliness epidemic" narrative is built on bunk statistics on male sexlessness or singleness and is rooted on misogynistic ideologies, made to make people believe that female sexual freedom and agency is a mistake.

Don't fall for it, refuse to repeat the lie, even if it sounds appealing to think that women are choosing better and making men lonely. It's not true, nothing has changed.

If I have to see one more goddamn mention of the “male loneliness epidemic” i’m going to shoot myself. Yknow women have been lonely. For centuries. For millennia women have been lonely, isolated in marriages they didn’t want, forced into domestic labour they never asked for, at home with children they never dreamed of having, having their rights, their dreams, their aspirations, their hopes and dreams stripped away from them. For millennia! But sure some men can’t make friends and mean women won't fuck them. Let’s call it an epidemic and have all of the world’s professionals turn an eye to it, let’s have a shit ton of articles and papers written about why men can’t make friends or get girlfriends and how that’s just not fair you guys! It’s not as though men have been having the world spoon fed to them, carried to them on a golden platter for millennia either. It’s not as though every woman in a man’s life is forced constantly to do emotional labour for him because he has the mentality of a fucking six year old and is effectively useless on his own. It is the de facto position for a wife or a girlfriend to “fix” a useless man, to make him a real man, to make him empathetic and kind and patient, to temper and mature him and just hope to god he doesn’t fucking kill her on the way there. Men are lonely? Fucking good. Maybe, for the first time in civilisation, they fucking should be.

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If you actually want to be a revolutionary in any way, stop using social media. Don't have Facebook, don't use Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok, etc. This is because we tend to overshare information on social media platforms, share photos that include things from our personal lives, and it could be very easy to find, identify, and arrest us after the fact.

If you want to do revolutionary shit, shut up about yourself. Or you can also just lie about yourself online. Make up a persona. Do a bit. But don't be sharing personal information about yourself so publicly and accessibly. Don't make a cops job easier for them later. Because in many cases where they have a hard time finding people off the internet, they find their social media, and figure out who and where they are from that.

People do not need to know your medical information, the town you live in, your ethnicity, or other things like that. That does not need to be publicly available information. And seriously, don't post images of yourself in publicly accessible ways, AI deepfakes are a thing now, you never know what some creep could use your photos for - even if it isn't used to identify you and penalize you.

You will not be an effective revolutionary if you use social media and share personal details on it. You will be found before you can be effective.

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I remember reading Fahrenheit 451 as a young preteen and thinking, “a stupid, shallow old man wrote this 🙄”

Like the way he’d rag on his wife for her eating disorder, which he saw as her being vain and shallow, or how he hated all the older female characters, and then this perfect virginal young girl showed up and made him sooo happy. And all of his “observations” about humanity were so fake deep, it was my first feminist awakening that so much of academia and literature is just letting men be fucking pretentious and annoying with no substance needed.

Then we covered in the beat generation in class … point proven💀

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MRA lies about men's and women's shelters

So, I don't know about you, but years ago I watched "The redpill" documentary.

In it, they named "Erin Pizzey" as the women who funded the first women's shelter in the UK. The story is that "evil feminists" threatened her for "speaking the truth" about Domestic Violence, "Truth" that feminists did't like because it portrays men as victims too.

The thing is, that Pizzey in reality was criticized by feminists for saying that women, victims of domestic violence, were equally violent as men and "addicted to violence". That sounded as victim blaming for feminists. (and it is). She also tried to say that domestic violence is not caused by misogyny, power dynamics, or others, but it is caused by "hormones" and "genetics". (What can we do with violent men then? lmao?)

Pizzey has also accused feminists of shooting her dog or even threaten her with bomb her. But none of this have been proved, she didn't reported anything of that.

The "official" (MRA) version of what happened when she tried to open a men's shelter is that "evil feminists" prevented her from doing that and finally chased out of the country.

The truth, the one that is on her memories, is that she tried to open it and didn't get funding. It's not clear if the shelter was for men and boys who were victims of DV or the abusers, since she believed that domestic violence is mutual and both parties are abusive. In her own memories she talks about an abusive male as a "Nice Guy" and she doesn't make it clear how she asked people to help with the shelter.

"I asked the Greater London Council, by then a booming busi! ness with a number of colourful characters working from the banks of the Thames, to give me a house for men. The idea was to provide shelter for men and teenagers who had been at the receiving end of violence or serious abuse from partners or parents. I was duly offered a huge vacant house in north London, which I was delighted to accept. I rather naïvely assumed that the wealthy men and women who were willing to support refuges for women and chil! dren would feel the same way about vulnerable and fragile men.

I very soon discovered that no one was willing to give me a penny for my men’s project. We opened the house, and I faced another stark reality. Whereas filling a house with women and children resulted in the women quickly forming a community and taking charge of their own lives, filling a house with men resulted in them disappearing into a room and sitting helplessly on their beds or else sulking because there was no one to run the place and take care of cooking and other practical matters

In vain we talked to them about the set!up in Chiswick. We talked about self!help. We talked about how we would decorate the satellite houses ourselves as well as do minor repairs. We talked about their responsibility to take care of one another. We met with blank silence. The men were not only unwilling or incapable of caring of each other in the house but we were unable to get any male volunteers to help out. The men’s project petered out, and I gave the property back to the GLC.

(...)Meanwhile I learned a big lesson. Women are naturally tribal. They will organize and help one another and take care of each other’s children. Men are different. Most are solitary and invest their emotions only in their partners and their offspring. The problem with the men’s house was that we did not have the resources to send a posse of women to work there to teach the men how to look after themselves.(...)"

So, basically:

The state gave Pizzey a house for men.

Rich men (there are more rich men than women in the world) didn't give a shit and didn't donate to help men.

Men, when they were in the house, didn't help each other. They were incapable or doing the cooking and the cleaning.

There were not male volunteers to help those men. Men didn't give a shit about men.

Pizzey thought about the possibility of making women take care of those men and wipe their asses, but they could not afford it.

Here it happened what we all know what happens. Men are good to cry about "feminazis" not caring about them and need to create fake storys to back up their tantrums. When given the opportunity, they don't really give a single shit about men's problems. The male victims also want women to clean their assholes and do the job for them, while victim women look after themselves and other women.

And it still is a thing today, MRAs can't and won't stop talking about Erin Pizzey as a major figure in their movement, even when she has not done shit in decades to actually help men. They need her because of the anti-feminist storytelling, not because of her activism. I haven't met any single MRA that has read Pizzey books, and it shows.

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Radfem completely ignores the possibility that a woman might be responsible for her own bad situation by, for example, leaving the dad. Drink a molecule.

And even then single mothers should not pay more taxes.

And the point still stands, women leave their partners, that doesn't mean men are not responsible for their children. Instead of calling out men, you prefer to defend men who are saying that single mothers should be punished.

Yes, you are the exact same guy. Encourage men to raise their own children instead of supporting anti-single mother messages.

>Well of course, men want to punish women that take accountability and raise their kids. While dismissing the fact that men walk away from their responsibilities as fathers.

Radfem completely ignores the possibility that a woman might be responsible for her own bad situation by, for example, leaving the dad. Drink a molecule.

It’s also ironic that radfems love to say men in general are horrible and abusive, but somehow also expect women to want to stay with those men.

>How typical and evil of men. It takes two to create a child but men do not want any accountability. However, they will bitch and play victims when fatherhood is not praised as highly as motherhood.

Right. Which is why so many men complain about not being able to spend enough time with their kids. Because men don’t want to be fathers.

The men who complain about the lack of respect for dads are totally the exact same guys as deadbeats. That is a perfectly logical conclusion to arrive at.

Hey, remind me, is it men or women who are more likely to move for divorce? And get primary custody? And I’m pretty sure women can use sperm banks and adopt children on their own.

Maybe even deliberately get knocked up the old fashioned way.

>Making men accountable would actually bring peace and harmony on earth. Almost all issues on earth would be solved if men took accountability.

“I have no idea how much the child support and custody system favors women over men.”

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Yeah, you are so special, no one understands you!

Glad you went full mask off at pairing MRA with antifeminists.

Also, in the article, Pizzey discusses how men could end up falsely charged with abuse for yelling at their wife. She also takes shots at feminism., and says the DV industry is “on a feminist mission to demonise men — even those who never have and never will hit a woman.“

Saying that emotional abuse is a thing is not demonizing men, it's acknowledging a common form of abuse that both men and women face.

This woman is telling you right in your face that saving abusers reputation is more important that keeping victims safe, because "what about false accusations".

False reports are minimum. A man is more likely to be emotionally abused that being falsely accused of emotional abuse. A man is more likely to face emotional and psychological abuse from his partner than being sent to the hospital by his female partner. I don't know why this is not relevant for MRA's.

In what earth is worrying more about female abusers than men being abused is caring about men? This is why people think you are full shit, you can't make your mind around what's better for men and support clearly ignorant people who only wants to oppose feminism and downplay women's problems.

I found a post on an SJW subreddit from 2017.

Someone claimed I’m a Gish-Galloping MRA.

Neither of those labels are true. Something tells me this person feels overwhelmed when I make my usual detailed responses, then does logical backflips to make it my fault.

Also, this was at the bottom of the post.

Okay, let’s take a looksie.

Darn it, they’ve got a point! 

It’s not like MRAs and egalitarians and other anti-feminists constantly talk about how women physically abuse men, and how society ignores it! Clearly they were just talking about emotional abuse!

/s

Also, in the article, Pizzey discusses how men could end up falsely charged with abuse for yelling at their wife. She also takes shots at feminism., and says the DV industry is “on a feminist mission to demonise men — even those who never have and never will hit a woman.“

So this anonymous Reddit idiot doesn’t understand who I am and what I believe. 

They don’t understand what MRAs believe.

And they either didn’t read or didn’t understand the article that’s supposedly a knockout blow to MRAs.