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All mentions of [[Hyperlink Blocked]] by Spamton

Since we're apparently still trying to guess what it is, here they are. So you can, too, understand that it's a different thing in every sentence, just like the hyperlinks on the sweepstakes website. Unformatted I am copypasting this from my txt.

living in goddamn garbage can(pre-battle) AND I HAVE JUST THE THING YOU NEED [[Hyperlink Blocked]] YOU WANT IT. YOU WANT [[Hyperlink Blocked]], DON`T YOU. WELL HAVE I GOT A DEAL FOR YOU!!

battle, deal, don't give money I'M A SALESMAN I WAS NEVER IN IT FOR THE [Money] I WAS IN IT FOR THE [Freedom] TO MAKE YOUR OWN [Deals], TO CALL YOUR OWN [Shots] AND SOMETIMES, IN THE MORNING, A LITTLE [Hyperlink Blocked] SOUNDS GOOD. DOESN;T IT?KID? DON'T YOU W4NT TO BE JUST LIKE YOUR OLD PAL SPAMTON???? TAKE THE DE4L.

deal BUT WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT KID. W1LD PR1ZES, HOTSINGLE, 100 CUSTOMER, AND MOST OF ALL… [Hyperlink Blocked]. WILL YOU TAKE THE FINAL DEAL!?

take the final deal COME ALONE AND DON'T FORGET TO [[Like and Subscribe]] FOR MORE [[Hyperlink Blocked.]]

OUR DEAL KRIS!!! YOU [Little Sponge]! I KNEW YOUD COME HERE [[On A Saturday Night]]! AFTER ALL, YOU WANNA BE A [Big Shot]! EAHAHAHAHAA!! BUT HOW? HOW CAN YOU BE? LISTEN. IN THE [Deep Abyss] OF QUEENS [Mansion] [[A Great Deal]] IS WAITING For [[A LimiTed Time Only!]] A HEAVEN-PIERCING [[Workout-Ready Body]] [[Designed BY The Classics Youve Come To Expect! (C)1997]] KRIS THAT [Little Nipper] IS OUR [One-way Ticket] TO MAKE YOU [Big]. MAKE ME [Big]. BEFORE YOU KNOW IT WE WILL BE TAKING [ A Ride around Town on Our Specil Cungadero] VACATIONING IN [Burning acid] WHILE YOU SOAK IN THE [Hyperlink Blocked] BUT KRIS DONT [Breathe] YET!! THE WAY IS LOCKED BY [High Quality Encryption]!!! YOU WILL NEVER GET INSIDE. WAIT KRIS LOOK!! HEAR THOSE [Balloons]??? YOU ARE [1000th Customer]!!. AS A [Commemorative Ring] I WILL LET YOU BUY [KeyGen] FROM ME AT [The Low Low Price Of] WHAT DO YOU THINK!?!? ITS SUCH A STEAL, IM [$!X$]ING MYSELF!!! TAKE THIS DEAL AND YOU WILL [[Die]]!! IT`S THAT GOOD!!! [BUY] THE KEYGEN FROM ME, UNLOCK THE BASEMENT, AND GET THAT EmptyDisk!!!

ABOUT YOU I USED TO BE NOTHING BUT THE E_MAIL GUY, NOW IM THE [[It Burns! Ow! Stop! Help Me! It Burns!]] GUY! [[Amazed at thi5 amazing transformation? You too can]] HAVE A [Communion]] WITH [[Unintelligble Laughter]] SOON ILL EVEN SURPASS THAT DAMNED [[Clown Around Town!]] BUT UNLIKE HIM IM GONNA [[Shoot For the Sky!]] AND GET ON THE PATH TO ... [[The Big One]] ILL GET SO. ILL GET SO. ILL GET SO. ILL GET SO. ILL GET SO. I`LL GET SO. [[Hyperlink blocked.]]

GIVE DISK KRIS!!! YOU DID IT!! YOU [[Funky]] LITTLE [[Worm]]! YOU BROUGHT ME THE DISK!! HOCHI MAMA!!!! I CAN FEEL THAT [Smooth Taste]] ALREADY!! … NOW KRIS. DON`T BE GREEDY. HAND OVER. THE DISK. THEN WE WILL TRANSFER. MY [[Hyperlink Blocked]]. THEN. KRIS. AFTER. THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. GO BACK. AND PUT. THE DISK. BACK. WHERE YOU GOT IT. DO THAT. . . AND YOU HAVE MY [Specil Guaranttee] I WILL [[Pass My Savings Onto You!]] EVERY [Big], EVERY [Shot], EVERY [Hyperlink Blocked], ALL YOURS, KRIS. SO WHAT DO YOU SAY? BIG SHOT. . . [[Warning! If you consent to theterms and agreements, ]] [[OUR STORE is PERMANENTLY Closing Down!!]]

seal the fountain NO, I GET IT. IT'S YOU AND THAT [Hochi Mama]. YOU'VE BEEN [Making], HAVEN'T YOU! YOU'VE BEEN MAKING [Hyperlink Blocked] ! AND NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SUPPLY, YOU DON'T NEED ME ! ! !

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The second hero is in fact Susie

The hair texture resembles Susie's, the hem could be her coat and that's obviously her snout.

The pose is close to her ACT pose as well.

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I think this is directly linked to the fact that you can get the shadow crystal on any route. BUT eggs require you to not be aggressive. And the "COMPLETE WITHOUT ISSUE" achievement being given ONLY if you don't get the egg, implying the egg and the forgotten man are the issue.

The ShadowCrystal turns into Glass in the Light World, showing you a twisted view of the world in either. The eggs don't change between worlds(the ONLY other item that does this is the BlackShard, I'm still trying to make sense of that one) The eggs are something real and tangible, the shadow crystals aren't.

It's very simple, actually. The shadow crystals are what keeps You playing his game, his DELTARUNE. They have side quests, they have engaging bossfights. The items you get stay in your inventory and allow you to unlock more content(such as Spamton showing up in chapter 3). They're INSANE theory fuel.

The eggs in comparison are very easy to get from every fountain that was created by the Knight, the egg rooms are rather small and plain(idk how to describe this), they leave your inventory when the chapter is up. The eggs are there to get Kris to remember something, not for You. The Man is very friendly towards Kris, the extra bosses have been outright hostile. Even Gerson. It's Fantasy versus Reality.

So to sum up. Your Crystals are what shows Gaster you care about him and his story. Since you're willing to go out of your way, your linear path, to play his game.

It has only just occurred to me right now how strange it is for Gaster to directly intervene during the Roaring Knight encounter, allowing us to retry the fight without having to trudge through Tenna's dismemberment over and over. And the only logical conclusion you can infer from such is that Gaster wants us to collect shadow crystals, and is actively facilitating events so that we are able to do so.

Not so earth-shattering a revelation on its own perhaps... but think about how this completely recontextualises the secret bosses that came before - Jevil and Spamton NEO. Both were contacted by a "certain someone" (heavily implied to be Gaster himself) who filled their head with meta knowledge that broke them. Jevil began seeing the whole world as a game to be played entirely without consequence, and Spamton became obsessed with reaching "H E A V E N" with the help of Kris's SOUL. They were set on a maddening path, attained phenomenal power, and were ultimately pacified/defeated by the heroes, yielding up their Shadow Crystal.

Do you see? Gaster didn't do all of this in an attempt to create a "guide" for the player, or so he could have agents in the world of Deltarune that could act on his will... Gaster created the monsters that were Jevil and Spamton for the SOLE PURPOSE of creating the conditions necessary for the creation of shadow crystals - then set them in our path so we could defeat them and harvest those crystals.

Gaster wants us to collect the crystals. The question now is - why?

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who is your favourite FNAF character?

The only thing I know about FNAF is that there's a guard getting harassed by animatronics which are dead children? And there's a Chica. Who's a girl. I only learned this because some of my middle school classmates were big fans of it.

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The Mantle game and freedom

The original game, where you choose what to do. Or do you? Using 'miniKris' for your tiny avatar and 'Kris Dreemurr' for the regular Kris. I'm going to prove miniKris was NEVER independent at any point. I'll be focusing on the key points:

- the intro

- slashing your party and entering the bunker

- the black blue-eyed monster

- the final scene where you get the Mantle

SO. The intro. You turn on the console. Kris inserts the controller, without your input. Your SOUL appears on the screen and the world then appears around it, heavily resembling how we gain control of Kris Dreemurr.

You then control it directly with your keyboard, not even seeing the controller closely once. If miniKris dies, the game is over, the console turns off, and Kris Dreemurr turns to the camera, awaiting your input. This is essentially the same as when your SOUL flies out in battle. You're still in control of them.

When you slash your party, Kris looks away. You could think that they can't do anything about you, since you're still using their hands to play. Then. You enter Hometown. miniKris noticeably slows down. Actively trying to go back when you're close to the bunker. Kris Dreemurr was just watching you run around this whole time and they're finally using the controller. That's right. Instead of you controlling Kris, the Mantle game has Kris controlling you. Kris was choosing to let you run around slashing everything. Ramb's words about freedom starting to make sense now.

In the bunker we're again free to go where we want, slash whoever we want. Certain rooms lock us until we kill everything. Until the black monster. You have to direct it onto the switch, which changes your player character to the black monster. The only way out of the room is to attack miniKris. Which you do. And get oneshot by Kris. Kris Dreemurr was trying to kill you in that scene. This was ultimately futile because you regain control of miniKris immediately after your second chara dies. Oh well.

In the bossfight you start taking damage directly. You're now fully immersed in the Mantle game, not controlling Kris Dreemurr anymore.

After the battle. You go out of bounds. Kris lets go of the controller. You're entirely free as long as the controller is on. However. Your line of sight doesn't move as the OddController doesn't and sending miniKris to the right switches your player chara to Kris Dreemurr. After obtaining the Mantle Kris will take the controller again and send miniKris away somewhere. Going to the left, approaching Kris, makes you step on the controller and send yourself out of bounds.

If Susie disconnects the controller, miniKris disappears. If Susie will distract Kris while they're holding the controller, you regain control of miniKris, and you can attack her. Kris will save her, and will turn the console off. Not allowing you to turn it on again.

Using the OddController makes both You and Kris Dreemurr free. Kris made a conscious choice to keep you both trapped.

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Starting to think Kris played the genocide route in undertale. And woke up with the red soul possessing them.

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Remember, Saint Elliot Rodger died in a BMW for you. He defeated foids, he died for your sins, for their sins against humanity. He sacrificed himself and gave us his Holy Spirit. Spread the Gospel. teto pear teto pear low honor sound effect teto pear bottom text !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! danger alarm sound effect petah da horse is here

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If I had not become a god, I would not have lost everything

Taglist: @mocha-bunbun @creaturre @diah-the-demon @lauch-for-everyone @radioactive-juice

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It's the Holiday couple together! Rudy is the face(showing off in the Dark Worlds) and Carol is the muscle(covering him in the Light World) The Knight is certainly a Holiday judging by the imagery but individual Holiday!Knight theories have too many holes in them. Especially December. Coz she vanished. I made a post about this actually.

Personally, I have NO idea who it is, but it really can't be anyone other than these four. The Asriel theory relies on the idea that he's been lying about college this whole time, so that one's a bit of a stretch

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Thoughts on various Roaring Knight Candidates

Basically just semi-ordered thoughts.

Preface:

The massive problem that every Knight theory runs into is that it shapeshifts. We don't know any Lightner that shapeshifts. Could be that its armor/exoskeleton is a transforming Darkner and the actual Knight is the ball/core in the middle. Could be that it's an amalgam like Lemon Bread. Maybe they're Just Like That. The point is any explanation for the Knight's shape is straight up fanfiction. Only thing I'll note is that they appear to be ambidextrous, holding the knife with the left hand and slashing with the right.

Other than the design Lost Girl and Black Knife both feature the Nightmare Knight motif. The Knight can move freely in the Light World and is strong and athletic, being able to outrun us while dragging Undyne's body. The Knight is one of the very few enemies that will NOT give you a GAME OVER, (Tenna will. Queen will) meaning it doesn't want to kill you. From this we can infer it's fleeing not because it's scared but because it wants to avoid a battle to the death. It's holding back.

The Knight most likely was one of the people at the sermon. They waited for everyone to leave and only then made the fountain.

The Prophecy stained glass images don't necessarily reflect the actual meaning but the Knight's interpretation of it. Same with Ralsei's explanation.

Roughly from more likely to less likely.

December Holiday

Welp starting off with the strongest candidate. Aesthetic-wise. She has the motif, she has the wiffleball, she has antlers, she probably has long thin limbs. She has lots of free time to go out opening fountains thanks to, you know, being missing.

Story-wise. Not so strong. Dess so far has been a missing-presumed dead character stuck in UNUSED strings. She was presented as a secret we have to find. The FINDHER --Friendship bracelet, Lost Girl being labelled findher.ogg, Noelle trying to find her, her disappearance basically being Carol's entire motivation to rule the whole town by herself, and so on and so forth. She is also currently stuck in the code so I genuinely don't know how Dess!Knight would work. Other than there being two radically different December Holidays. Yuor angle and yuor devil.

Dess-stuck-in-the-code wants to be found, she's glad someone's listening even if we don't respond. The Knight is literally the opposite of this. It's secretive but a mandatory encounter. That keeps running away.

Oh and I realized that the Knight has to be someone we've met. Else Kris has no reason to hide their face from us.

Carol Holiday

She has the antlers, she has a motive, she's basically confirmed to be involved in this dark world stuff. She's supposedly very strong physically as well.

Someone pointed out we collect crumbs of her identity through chapter 1&2 as the mayor, Noelle's mother and Asgore's landlord C. Which leads into the beginning of chapter 4 revealing she's in fact all those people. The Roaring Knight's identity is a mystery, so the idea is that it's another facet of Carol.

However, she was described as having negative charisma, no-nonsense attitude and the Knight literally keeps striking poses coz it's cool. That's the opposite of her.

Chapter 4 also paints a very funny mental image if she were the Knight. Imagine. She makes a fountain. Accepts Kris's phonecall instead of entering the DW. Hurries to her house. She kicks you out of her house. Patiently waits for you to leave. Hops over her fence and zooms across the block to beat you to the church. Not impossible but silly.

Rudy Holiday

He has the antlers and the attitude, and who's to say he doesn't like baseball? He could have a motive as well. Unfortunately, he is bed-bound terribly sick. Which disqualifies him. That's the only argument against him being the Knight, though.

The Holiday couple, together

Basically the idea is they both are the Knight, Rudy enters Dark Worlds and strikes dramatic poses while Carol is in the Light World covering his rear. So at the end of chapter 3 she would have taken Undyne to the bunker and Rudy would've hid somewhere in the bushes. I see no holes in this theory. For now.

Catti, Alvin

Were in my top 3 candidates pre-chapter 3. Nothing contradicting them but nothing new supporting either.

Two or more people who aren't the Holiday couple

If too many people are in on the operation the whole damn town is a doomsday cult and they would have no reason to be secretive about it. We'd learn about it, too.

I do think Alphys and possibly Alvin are complicit but they don't know the whole picture.

Sans, Pizzapants

Thankfully deconfirmed. Pizzapants was sitting in the rain while the Knight was in the church and Sans was in his store at this time.

Goner Vessel

I used to dislike this one because of this thing in the GONERMAKER:

It implies the Vessel has no mind, will or voice of its own, and it can only have one of these at most. The Knight clearly has all 3 of these features.

Then this part of the Prophecy swayed me:

As you can see the Cage has 4 fingers and hands that suspiciously resemble the Knight's. Kris has normal human hands with 5 fingers. It's not Kris being depicted here.

Oh by the way the Knight has 5 fingers and human-ish hands in the Prophecy. Does that mean they didn't create the inner church fountain?

Papyrus

I can't read I'm an Undertale fan. He would not be trying to cause the fucking apocalypse. I have to admit he does match the stature and the attitude of drama-flying away-beating you half to death.

He's a main character of UT which really makes him unlikely as the villain. He had his spotlight already.

Asgore

Well, he did show up when Kris called. And he was going to show 'em all, especially Toriel. And the Knight's horns in its first appearance actually resemble goat horns more than antlers methinks. And he's big and strong. And he's associated with using knives for gardening. And he's already working closely with Carol...

But, I don't think it's him. The fact that he has a Black Shard, pretty much deconfirms him. Since if he was the Knight he'd have the entire Knife. He's a main char of UT as well.

GASTER

ALWAYS AN OPTION. Literally the only reason he's here. Seems to be allied with the Knight through ShadowCrystals? Knight and Gaster aren't the same person according to Seam and Spamton. But Seam never met him and Spamton is looney.

Noelle/Asriel

No.

Jockington/Snowy

Uhh Jockington is associated with balls. His Prophecy segment says he grows the beard, which is something silly BUT he's the only one mentioned by name. (Also an argument for Catti!Knight if you squint) Kris will start thinking about him when you think about the Knight. That's about it.

Snowy has this Silver Drake thing going on. Image by anon.

But neither of them has hands so stabbing the ground would be an annoying task.

That's it!

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got a little autistic last night and figured out how tall the knight is (minus antlers bc yeah)

(sorry its rly messy im too lazy to fix it but it gets the point across lmao)

kris height from here

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Ch.3 Boss Fight: Cursed Edition

(Ralsei knows he's gonna get wiped out instantly so he's not even going to try)

*bonus*

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im so serious read the modest paposal

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FUCK HIM UPPPPP!!!!!!!!!11!!1!1!