not proship I just cope in a way you hate ❤️, survivor of stalking, grooming. saying you wish Tensa raped me makes you a bad person actually 💯. send me anon hate, it's hot 🔥
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There is a very... bad "hierarchy" in fandom. Or maybe its more of a caste system? Or something. I don't know how to explain this
The non-shippers think they are better than shippers in fandom. The multishippers think they are better than monoshippers. monoshippers think they are better than selfshippers. Shippers, as a whole, think shipping is the only "correct" way to interact with fandom and the only "correct" way to explore dynamics. A subset of those shippers think you have to ship "correctly" to be a part of fandom. If you ship exclusively platonically or not the "correct" ship you don't ACTUALLY understand the dynamics of the story or relationships of the characters. Obviously, you can't insert yourself, thats selfish! and you do NOT understand the characters the same way FAVORITE CHARACTER (read: I) does!
This is more of a generalization and not meant to be taken as salt towards one particular group. This is, honestly, probably not worded the best. This is just something I'm noticing is getting worse lately. I don't think any of these groups are particularly "wrong" in their ideas just the way they think they're the only ones doing fandom right.
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Antis literally have no clue about coping mechanisms because they refuse to see past their own noses. It's why a LOT of them are also ED/SH them truly don't know anything except bad coping mechanisms so they think ALL coping mechanisms are unhealthy. And dealing with SEX and DARK thoughts? By indulging in them? That's SCANDALOUS! Because to them they ARE indulging in their dark thoughts and it's HURTING them. But when I'm REALLY in my ED? i write about it, usually by projecting it onto my favorite character. That IS indulging in the thought without hurting myself, that's what makes a good coping mechanism. If I was truly trying to stop thinking about it? It would make me want to do it more. They truly don't understand.
Antis really love to show off their lack of life experience in their arguments, whether they mean to or not.
Probably the most popular case is thinking that a therapist would have to turn you over to the police for thinking bad thoughts. Despite the fact that they have years of schooling and degrees that contradict the whole "bad thoughts = bad person" idea.
Somehow they've convinced themselves that they know more than every licensed therapist on the planet. That every paid professional is a fraud, despite the fact that they utilize what they learned in their schooling on the way to getting their professional degrees.
And then there's the idea that, when applying for a job, your potential employer will need to be made aware of every single unconventional fandom, ship, or kink you may have.
When I was growing up online, it was Internet Safety 101 not to post your real name or pictures of yourself online. Anonymity was key. Now apparently young people online think you have to list every single social media handle and blog name on your resume when applying for a job.
And background checks are to make sure you haven't been processed as a criminal at any time in your life. Shockingly, shipping Pinecest doesn't count as a crime, and a background check isn't going to show your ao3 history regardless.
And of course the favorite comeback when encountering a person (usually a woman) over 30 enjoying themselves in fandom, "Shouldn't you be filing your taxes?"
Something that can be done in a single afternoon. Or in no time at all if you hire someone to take care of it for you. And of course something that happens only once a year. It would be like talking to someone in June and asking why they haven't finished their Christmas shopping yet.
It just shows a blatant ignorance to how the world actually works once you're out of high school.
And if an anti is older than 18 and still thinks these things... Well, I guess you have to be pretty lucky to be grown and not have to worry about work, taxes, or therapy, huh?
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So... No argument. Just "well this is DIFFERENT".
It doesn't matter if you were traumatized and it's your trauma making you write proship. It is a loser behavior waking up and thinking: "I was traumatized. Gonna go and traumatize more people ig".
Keep your shit to or between yourself at least.
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Do you think watching house md makes people support medical malpractice? Or watching glee, a multi award winning show, made people start supporting rape, infidelity, black mailing teens? Or again, game of thrones/ a song of ice and fire has incest yet didn't make an epidemic of incest lovers. Or south park a stick of truth has the minor player character gets anally probed. It's one of the best selling games, CSA is still a federal crime.
Tell me why all of these which MILLIONS have consumed haven't altered the world yet you think fiction can suddenly change the way everyone thinks
It doesn't matter if you were traumatized and it's your trauma making you write proship. It is a loser behavior waking up and thinking: "I was traumatized. Gonna go and traumatize more people ig".
Keep your shit to or between yourself at least.
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"the moment you post it online it's romanticizing child abuse" explain. Explain how suddenly posting it to the Internet makes it romanticizing instead of exploring?
It doesn't matter if you were traumatized and it's your trauma making you write proship. It is a loser behavior waking up and thinking: "I was traumatized. Gonna go and traumatize more people ig".
Keep your shit to or between yourself at least.
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Also saying this is about a REAL VICTIM because they're "hurting your blorbos" is REAL loser behavior, op. You literally are admitting you do NOT care about victims trauma the MOMENT they use a coping mechanism that is backed by research. Do some soul searching.
It doesn't matter if you were traumatized and it's your trauma making you write proship. It is a loser behavior waking up and thinking: "I was traumatized. Gonna go and traumatize more people ig".
Keep your shit to or between yourself at least.
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Oh that's hilarious that they're mad I put "cope in a way you hate" (about using shigadeku to cope with CSA) and "saying you wish my abuser raped me makes you a bad person" (an actual anon I got) as "bad vibes". Like Just say you hate victims.
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If I'm talking about real pedophiles and you go "but what about Lolicons" you actually need to get your head checked
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As a CSA victim if you're mad I believe that pedophiles and groomers should kill themselves if they don't want help (many don't) you are not my ally, you are a pedophile apologist.
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Okay indie creators are aware interacting with your fandom is a bad idea because if you make anything "fanon" canon the fans have a legal right to sue you for their copyright infringement? "Oh but they own the characters!!" They DON'T own the ideas of fanon, that's why it's FANON not canon.
Interacting with fanon is not the same as interacting with fans, btw.
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"do Americans pay your taxes to kill us!?" Do you think I want to pay my taxes?? Do you think we LIKE that our taxes are used to bomb and kill and torture other countries while our social and internal infrastructure falls apart?
Yes, we're aware our taxes are used to kill, doesn't mean we can stop paying taxes because tax evasion is a crime.
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I hate antis and how they just gaslight you. "No this isn't grooming! Its just showing loli art to minors because its GROSS and WRONG and I'm leaking an 18+ account to them to REPORT! What do you MEAN look at RAINN and UNICEF? Thats bullshit, I'm not grooming anybody, right teenagers!"
Update three months later: anti number 500 has been called out for sexual RP with minor followers. How could this happen?
And I'm not saying this as a weird "why are you thinking about children getting groomed" I'm saying this as a REAL FUCKING PROBLEM that, for some reason, (we know why) us anti-antis have to deal with and call out. But when we DO? We're "taking this too seriously". How many kids are antis gonna groom until they fucking fix themselves?
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"Yana only draws shota stuff because of higher ups" is BULLSHIT
she has been drawing shota doujinshi LONG before she broke into the industry and has even purchased Loli figures, many of which she posted on her blog in 2017. Please
Look I’m french. When I was a kid my school made me read Greek mythology books with graphic rape and incest galore and I turned out fine ?? It’s fake, no one is being harmed and if people can simp for fictional murderers they can as well do so for weird sex kink (expecially since anime boys don’t look like children at all, you could tell me they are actually 30 and I’ll believe it easily). Also if you’re in a fandom built around a work made by someone whose into problematic stuff I feel it’s very hypocritical to criticize those people.
Finally I think callouts post are always evil, probably because I hang out with enough queer people who go false accusations of serious crimes because of petty shit and were harassed into nervous breakdowns and depression 🤷♂️
degenerate, filthy and disgusting used in the context you do is always a giant red flag btw
(Also my cat is the cutest ever and I will gladly die for her)
Look, my main take away from this is that you think everyone has the same experiences as you and that you feel everyone should cater to your thoughts and feelings. I'm not here to do that, not to you or anyone. Plain and simple.
I want you to THINK about this. Don't skim it, don't read it and think immediately of what to say back, just take your time to digest this.
Do the creators you follow and defend TRULY care about whether you defend them or not? Are they sending you out to fight for them? What do you GAIN, from defending them? Does the content you consume help you in becoming the best version you can be, or does it provide you with a fraction of a moments' satisfaction? Do you surround yourself with people that care about your actual happiness and uplift you when you need it, but give you advice and sometimes even call YOU out on behavior that is harmful to you or others? The call may be coming from inside the house.
My call outs don't discriminate, they target anyone who fits into the criteria.
"Also if you’re in a fandom built around a work made by someone whose into problematic stuff I feel it’s very hypocritical to criticize those people."
I'll be frank with you, since you blog says 21+. Do you know the innermost thoughts and feelings of Yana Toboso? Are you sure she doesn't include some content because a higher up told her to, or because some people are willing to pay more for said content? I don't know the answers to these questions, and I sincerely do not care to know. You may not know the meaning of hypocrisy. Google defines it as :"the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense". My behavior is not hypocritical, since I don't cheer on Toboso's past actions, or even present ones. I play Twisted Wonderland because it's cute and entertaining, not because I want to make "ships" or "headcanons" on characters. Whatever the reason people play for, is not my business, only when they cross a line is when I get involved.
You keep making assumptions about me, and I don't think it is fair. I don't make any about you, I only go by what you tell me. Please try to do the same. Thank you.
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the op of that callout appears to be blocking people and hiding replies. the number of reblogs and replies don't line up to what's visible.
they aren't willing to actually own up to what they've done and are most likely limiting visibility of by blocking people. this is disgusting because it's going to limit the post's spread, and corrections already spread more slowly than inflammatory and shocking lies.
i'm not for dogpiling but when you accuse someone of being an actual pedophile based upon the flimsiest of evidence you shouldn't be blocking people rightfully calling out how little a correction post is actually going to do in the wake of that.
If I'm getting blocked because I challenged their bias that proship=pedophile they are too far gone and will be complicit if one of their server members does groom somebody. I LITERALLY ended that with the LEAST and most effective way to combat pedophilia is learn the signs of grooming.
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AND THEN I FOUND OUT A LOT OF YOU DO
For EVERY person with a rape kink and then turns around and goes "Profic DNI" i assume you actually wanna rape people because why are you against people who only keep that shit in fiction??? It makes no sense unless you want to go out and rape people.
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If Shutaba is "pedophilia" why the fuck are you shipping Akechi an 18 year old with Joker who is 16?
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