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could i get a penelope & achilles,,, together or seperate! half (naiad/nereid accordingly) characters yayy

Fishes

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Sigismund Christian Hubert Goetze (English, 1866-1939) Venus Visits Vulcan, 1909

In Virgil's narrative, in the eighth book of The Aeneid, Venus induces Vulcan to forge arms for her mortal son Aeneas, champion of the Trojans against the Greeks.

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I don't wanna hear any helen slander ever

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neoptolemus and telemachus dead dad vs absent dad lets go

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If Achilles lived he would 100% have the funniest relationship with Pyrrhus. Imagine you're twelve and you meet your dad the demigod war hero for the first time and he's like suicidally depressed because his boyfriend is dead but he does care about you. He also has no idea how to interact with children and kinda forgets that you exist sometimes. When he becomes like nominally more well-adjusted he decides that he's just gonna treat you like his best friend who happens to be a child. You're okay with this because you are twelve. He will kill someone if you ask and probably if you don't. Your mom doesn't really know what to do about this. When you're a little older you tell him that you like boys and he grabs your shoulders and tells you to never ever ever love any man ever and it's kinda scary so you just agree. You get a boyfriend and he makes you swear a blood oath that you'll never let him wear your clothes. You're a ginger

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“Survivor’s Guilt”

Odysseus portrait I started while in Kefalonia, Greece that I finished yesterday. I had really no idea where I was going with this but I like how it turned out. This was basically a lot of “fuck around and find out”. Anyway, I’ll leave this up to your interpretation.

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Shoot through 12 axes clearly

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"i miss drawing him" i say longingly (i've been drawing him for almost three years)

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Achilles sketches ✍️

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Draw telestratus and my life is yours🙏🏾🙏🏾

Nestor followed them to Sparta so now the old men are discussing:

I can see what's happening (What?)

And they don't have a clue (Who?)

They'll fall in love and here's the bottom line - our trio's down to two (Oh)🎶🎶🎶

They weirdly look like horses and I don't know why...

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been thinking about autolycus and his grandkids

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@kyleesarthell Telemachus design because apparently I think about it every day

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Do you know why people draw Helen, Penelope, and clym with suns painted on their cheeks?

hello!

i can't speak for individual artists ofc, but my best guess would be that it is inspired by the minoan makeup/fashion that was around and that also heavily influenced the mycenaean culture! i believe it's called the 'sun blush'?? or something like that. and ofc with mycenae being the powerhouse it was at that time, a lot of women may have adopted their style! cause obviously penelope, clytemnestra and helen were spartan! tbh it may have just been a bronze age thing in general? and not linked specifically to mycenae.

but there's some stuff to look at regarding this style.

this lady from a minoan fresco on thera

and i believe the most famous example is this lady! a plaster cast that was discovered in a mycenaean citadel.

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Something funny to consider is that in Achilles and Patroklos’ relationship, it’s Patroklos who’s the violent one. Sure, he’s called “gentle” in the Iliad but let’s not forget that that’s only towards his fellow Achaeans. Achilles, prior to the Iliad, is honorable and kind (by his standards) to the Trojans and (one would assume if we’re to take his words for it) the Achaeans. Off the top of my head I’m pretty sure Andromache and Lykaon both comment on something along the lines of Achilles being kinder to them than he was expected to be.

Now this isn’t to say that Achilles is sympathetic to the Trojans, or that he isn’t trying to kill them (after all a part of the code is to be succesful in war and kill many, see Diomedes, Patroklos, and Agamemnon’s aristeias), but it seems like he generally didn’t do more than what he viewed as completely necessary up until after the death of Patroklos.

There’s also something interesting in the Iliad that I think few people mention. Diomedes is far more brutal than Achilles, we know this thanks to his Aristeia and how the Trojans mentioned that he pushed them far further back than Achilles ever did, but so is Patroklos! While yes, some Trojans fear that it is Achilles who is fighting them, the ones that recognize Patroklos are just as (if not possibly more) afraid!

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Achilles and Patroclus shadow. Iliad. (2022)

This is a redrawn version of the work done in 2015, where the characters still look very stereotypical: classical greek/ hellenistic (This old work is also in my gallery :D ).

“No sooner had sleep caught, dissolving all his grief, as mists if refreshing slumber poured around him there– his powerful frame was bone-weary from charging Hector straight and hard to the walls of windswept Troy– than the ghost of stricken Patroclus drifted up… He was like the man to the life, every feature, the same tall build and the fine eyes and voice …” “Hovering at his head the phantom rose and spoke: ‘Sleeping Achilles? You’ve forgotten me, my friend. You never neglected me in life, only now in death. Bury me quickly- let me pass the Gates of Hades. Oh give me your hand- I beg you with my tears! Never, never again shall I return from Hades once you have given me the shoothing rites of fire. Never again will you and I, alive and breathing, huddle side-by-side, apart from loyal comrades, making plans together- never … Grim death, that death assigned from the day that I was born has spread its hateful jaws to take me down. A last request- grant it, please. Never bury my bones apart from yours, Achilles, let them lie together…” “So now let a single urn, the gold two-handled urn your noble mother gave you, hold our bones– together!’ And the swift runner Achilles rassured him warmly: 'Why have you returnde to me here, dear brother, friend? Why tell me o fall that I must do? I’ll do it all. I will obey you, your demands. Oh come closer! Throw our arms around each other, just for a moment- take some joy in teras that numb the heart!’ In the same bfreath he stretched his loving arms but could not seize him, the ghost slipped underground like a wisp of smoke… with a high thin cry.”

Song 23.  Homer’s Illiad

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I said I’d make a comic and by the gods I did

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Hector of Troy, you never did anything wrong ever in your entire life.