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“theres something i have been wanting to talk to you both about-”
aaaaand im sobbing
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“turning jonathan into an addict ruined his character!!”
INCORRECT.
in fact, it is VERY realistic
jonathan was considered a “weird kid” and he had no friends except for nancy
he dealt with an insane amount of trauma— brother going missing, thinking his mom was going insane, planning his brothers funeral all by himself at 16 y/o, all the upside down stuff, etc
jonathan found a way to cope, and though it obviously wasnt the best option, it is a very realistic turn for his character to take
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that scene of mike and will sitting in the grocery store like get off your boyfriend he’s not going anywhere
#stranger things#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#byler endgame#byler is canon#byler nation#st3#stranger things 3
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why would will confess to mike just for his crush to be unreciprocated?? they already did that with steve and robin
#stranger things#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#byler endgame#byler is canon#byler nation#st5#stranger things 5
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I’m as excited for loverslakegate as everyone is else, believe me.
However, I want Mike to be deathly afraid of the water and have to push through that fear to save Will. The trauma from 1) seeing Will’s body pulled out of water and 2) almost committing off the quarry needs to be addressed.
I need Mike to have a whole freak out moment before snapping himself out of it in a moment of pure fear and desperation.
Please.
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i know there’s nothing wrong being a casual fan of something , but lately with the s5 teaser and ga waking up for s5 i’ve been seeing so many videos on tiktok and yt about who is most likely to die and they always put will as most likely lol
like do you not understand how storylines work it would make no sense for his character
he has been sad, tortured and left out for 4 seasons like he’s not dying on top of this
and no more kill the gays trope pls i’m tired
also to quote noah “something went right for him”
and the duffers also said that his arc ties it all together- him becoming a man
IT WOULD LITERALLY MAKE NO SENSE
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“Byler fans are delusional and ruined the fandom”
and yet all the GA has ever done to Will is bully him, call him a crybaby, be homophobic towards him, mischaracterise him, want him to get rejected by Mike all so a boring ship can still exist, say he adds nothing to the story and that he should just “get a random bf in season 5”.
and to Mike - make his whole character surround el, forget his character exists outside of byler & mileven, mischaracterise the HELL out of him, assume he’s a horrible person, claim he also adds nothing to the story, wish and pray that he’ll have sex with el, overlook his trauma, depression and anxiety and also assume he doesn’t give a single shit about Will.
but yeah sure, bylers are the thing that ruined the fandom.
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this is a picture of my computer screen so ignore the line thingies but—
in season three, whenever hopper is looking at joyce, there’s a colorful kind of filter put over the screen
i think they might do this with mike looking at will in volume one, which will show that they are endgame

this also happens in joyce’s store in either the first or second episode
#stranger things#byler#jopper#will byers#mike wheeler#byler endgame#byler is canon#byler nation#st5#stranger things 5
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Also i told my 47 yr old dad while we are currently rewatching ST to watch all the seasons through the lens of Mike being gay and in the closet, because it makes all of his "weirdness" in the later seasons suddenly make sense and he just looked at me like this 🤨 and said "um...duh??? Mike is gay, you just figured that out?" AND I WAS LIKE NO DAD. I WAS JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU DAMN. Anyways my dad believes in byler endgame and he's literally a middle aged straight man so they're endgame for sure
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i am a lesbian but ill make an exception for jonathan byers
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i truly do not know how jonathan could have possibly survived that fight at the hospital
he got thrown against the wall at full force like 6 times?? and tom or whatever threw his head into the floor???
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that hospital scene with nancy and jonathan fighting tom and bruce is one of the scariest moments of the show okay
#stranger things#byler#< target audience#stranger things 3#st3#nancy wheeler#nancy walk em down wheeler#jonathan byers#jancy#jancy endgame
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when mike and will had to sit in the back of nancys car in episode 5 of s3 will was SMILING aww theyre so endgame
#also proof that byler wasnt just created in s4#stranger things#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#byler endgame#byler is canon#byler nation
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genuinely i feel like im going insane sometimes cause like if i said “byler will be canon in season 5 of stranger things” to someone from the 17th century i think they would have a stroke
#cause like what do those words mean#stranger things#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#byler endgame#byler is canon#st5#stranger things 5#byler nation
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Honestly and as a byler shipper its a bit weird to screenshot things from the mileven tag and be like "ohh its anti byler" , when I screenshot things from tt its always from byler videos. Its normal to find anti byler content if you look on the opposite ship tag, like what r u doing there?
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sometimes it hits me like a bus that we know for a fact that the main character of the final season of the biggest tv show is a canonically gay character played by an actually gay actor
and his character is strong
like.
this is actually such a huge deal to someone that had such little representation growing up. older gays had none at all. whether or not Byler is endgame (it is) this is a huge win
will byers is so important and that makes me cry
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