#st5

[taeiris]

girl math is saying st5 is coming out so soon bc its the end of april which means its almost may which means it’s technically summer break already and summer break doesn’t count bc it goes by really fast so it’s technically august but august is only like 3 seconds long and then its september which means it’s technically october and halloween which means its only a few weeks until christmas and new years and 2025 aka st5 release year which means theyre already in post production and a trailer can come out any second now !💋

[romainlettusdinnerparty]

byler x shared looks <3

[will80sbyers]

Rip to ep. 7 having great byler angst if these are true :( but maybe Byler kiss at the end of ep. 6 ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[cloudycleric]

i’m not sure if i believe these leaks or think they’re accurate…

but the vanishing of mike wheeler…

[bylerworld]

if holly does go missing in the second episode and i have to watch mike, at the same age jonathan was when he lost will, go through all of that again but this time with his little sister, if i have to watch his older, protective brother instincts crank up to a thousand as he relives all that trauma to save her life meanwhile being traumatized all over again i will simply not cope with it im gonna end things the following day im so serious

[zombieboy83]

need either dustin or lucas to be the one to talk some sense into mike please

[queen-of-hawkins-why-ler]

No but like El will be happy about Byler. Like actually happy, not just okay with it. It's not just her who doesn't "get" Mike and his nerdiness and need to be the hero, it's also Mike who doesn't understand the depths of El's humanity despite being a "superhero" and all of the trauma she deals with and has yet to work through. Her uniquely feminine experience and all of the challenges and milestones that come alongside maturing as a young woman, which is something that Max understands perfectly well, and this is the reason why El has begun to prioritize her friendship with Max over her relationship with Mike. El knows in her heart that she and Mike are already doomed romantically, I just think she was in denial about it until Mike's monologue. The only fear both El and Mike have now is that the absence of romance from their relationship means there won't be a relationship period i.e. they are destined to lose each other. For El, knowing and understanding that Mike is gay and in love with someone else and literally CAN'T be with her romantically will be the biggest signifier that they were never going to be able to hold onto that romance in the first place. Now they can work on being friends. If anything it's Will who's going to struggle to be with Mike in light of the guilt he will feel from "stealing" Mike from El, and I wouldn't be surprised if El is going to be the one to ultimately push Will towards Mike and encourage the two of them to be together.

[yrfavpookie]

GUYS IM SCREAMING WHICH WHEELERRRR GUYS IM SCAREDD AHHH

[strangertheories]

Holly is missing: ST5 proof

As per leaked titles, an unnamed Wheeler vanishes

And it appears stranger things may have cast Nell Fisher, a blonde twelve year old from evil dead rise...

(a small but awesome thing)

All this to say, could Holly go missing? This would be a good end to episode one, especially if there is a time skip, as it gives a motivation for our heroes to spring back into action and we heard we'd be getting hero Mike. Thoughts?

[oniwa-a]

i love mike wheeler sm he's my son,,, my stupid stupid son

[anylovesong]

Season 1: The Vanishing of Will Byers

Season 5: The Vanishing of ***** Wheeler

[sufferboypizza]

if the newly released episode titles are real, I think episode 6 is a reference to a wrinkle in time!! ESPECIALLY considering there is LITERALLY a picture of it in this post on ross's instagram:

since this is a classic sci fi novel it makes total sense for it to be referenced in the show!!

if you haven't read the book, camazotz is a planet in the story that houses a mind-controlling entity called IT, that essentially brainwashes/controls all its residents (if this is a very shallow explanation I apologize, I haven't read it in a while). this is very interesting to me as the idea of an entity controlling/haunting/brainwashing people is also used in stranger things as we know with the mind flayer & vecna. to me, it seems likely that at least this title is real! at least I hope it is, because I love this book and it would be a perfect fit

"escape from camazotz" is a very interesting title too, as to me it feels like that would mean escaping some sort of purgatory or hellscape, which likely refers to the upside down in this context

if anybody else has theories relating to this lmk!!!

(also sorry if this has already been said)

[seigneurambigu]

ST5 theory because I have nothing else to do

(I’m lying I literally have an eloquence contest tomorrow and still don’t know my speech but whatever)

So what if Holly disappears (since she’s been recasted she maybe has a more important role).

Everyone is sure she is in the upside down and go there to rescue her.

They all divides into different groups to find her faster. And Will and Mike are together. The two of them are visibly upset. Mike because he’s scared to death for his little sister and want to save her. And Will because he’s also scared for Holly and is back in the upside down so it makes him lots of traumas.

They end up fighting because they are tensed. And maybe talk about the painting or another thing I don’t know. So after that they are like really upset and not talk much to each other.

Finally they find Holly but it was a trap and Mike falls right into it and disappear.

Will ends up taking Holly back to Hawkins and totally looses his mind because he doesn’t know if Mike is alive and the last time they talked, they were angry at each other so he’s completely destroyed about it and does everything he can to find him. And it causes a parallel to season 1, but instead of Mike looking for Will, Will is looking for Mike. Refusing to think he’s dead.

[will80sbyers]

[butterflysonnets]

here's the thing. after the van scene being what it was, mike has to find out about will's feelings in s5. that's a given, and it's basically confirmed that he'll find out. he's going to discover eleven didn't commission the painting, and he's going to know will loves him. and with strong, long-held feelings like that involved, let me tell you from real life experience... two people cannot just stay friends. being in love and staying friends is too awkward, too painful. things won't be the same as before. they will be changed irreversibly. they will either go their separate ways because of will's one-sided love being too uncomfortable, or feelings will be reciprocated and the relationship will shift into new territory.

if mike and will going their separate ways and ending their friendship is endgame, why bother to show them drifting apart after the byers' move to california, and then spend a whole season building back up their bond stronger than before…? especially doing it in direct contrast to mike's romantic relationship with eleven being shown as fraught with dishonesty, dysfunction, and insecurity, and on the track to deteriorating in the final moments of that same season? why would you rebuild a relationship between mike and will and highlight its importance, only to drive another huge and unscalable wall between them, estranging them again? that just doesn't make sense narratively and it would be senseless writing. you can't do the same thing twice, leave it unresolved the second time, and end a show like that... unless you're going for a really unhappy and hopeless ending which, i can't believe stranger things could really be the show to do that, especially with two of its main and most beloved characters.

[bymarara]

Let's talk about this.

"The Vanishing of *** Wheeler." - So... Which Wheeler? Mike, Nancy, Holly? I'm leaning towards the last one, but! They all make sense. One can imagine how Vecna, could be after Mike, to at the same time, hurt Will, Al. Or, he could be using Mike as bait to lure them into a trap.

It's also conceivable that Vekna would come after Nancy for revenge because his plan didn't work out as planned, and Nancy, who knew more than anyone, almost killed him at the end of season 4.(But also, it would be as bait for others, a trap to lure them into the Otherworld.)

And the best part. What if it was Holly? Let's look back through all the seasons and realize the fact that she was somehow but connected to the Yznan, she saw a lot of things.

Season 1 - Holly was the one who went to the Byers house to get light bulbs and saw in Demogorgon style (saw somewhere a suggestion that it could even be Vekna, who even then wanted to kidnap her.).

Season 3 - On the Ferris wheel, Holly noticed that the trees were moving and apparently didn't believe her mom that it was the wind. I think Holly sensed something wrong, you know what they say, kids see more than adults.

Season 4 - We're shown that Holly is the first to notice ash from the sky, calling it snow. Once again, she's the first to notice something weird and it's not weird?

I think she's going to play a big role. Holly, Ted's favorite and father, Ted even fell asleep with her in his arms. We're told that Ted and Mike will have some kind of interaction, so why wouldn't it be a conversation like Ted is worried and starts asking Mike what the heck has been going on for years and where is the youngest daughter missing? Also, Holly's disappearance could strengthen the family as everyone will be on the lookout for the girl.

"Escape from Camazotz" - I think this is going to be a clash of the Bylers. We all know that the Bylers will likely have some sort of tension, but we know that they will most likely be Endgame this season. There are rumors and theories that the Bylers will become canon in episode 7. I think this all makes sense since we haven't been given the title of the last two episodes because they could be a huge spoiler.

" Sorcerer." - I can very likely tell you what was going on in Yznanka with him 1983. We'll be shown this with flashbacks that may show Vecna for some purpose, perhaps to get him to his side and show how similar they all are. Also, maybe it will show us that Will has the ability to hear and sense Vecna. Because of that, everyone might be afraid of him, since he can play both sides, or even if it's not him anymore, they might be afraid of him being evil. Mike and Joyce will be reminded of the events of season 2 and assure them that Will is fine.