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I don’t know if this account is still active in any way, but I just saw everything with officialbimtrimmer/Kipper/whatever name they go by nowadays. I know I’m late, but I just wanted to give my two cents now.

It drives me up a wall that Kipper seems to have given Bim a bad name in the Markiplier community since he was something of a “figurehead” of him. Anyone else who had an attachment to Bim? Irrelevant. Anyone who had an alter/kin of Bim? Competition or grounds for copying under the guise of newly appearing headcanons. It was really discouraging to be part of the Markiplier community during their time around as someone who was very fond of Bim because it was just problem after problem. People even used the Bim Trimmer tag for awareness, and that just. Doesn’t sit right with me. I know it was because he was big on him specifically, but it’s just upsetting to see it spread everywhere under the preface of the character, if that makes sense? I’m just glad I’m not really in the fandom anymore and it doesn’t bother me as much, but I wanted it to be known.

Bim as a character was not a toy for Kipper for use. No one in the Markiplier community should be gatekeeping egos in the way he has. Not to mention all of the other terrible things I’ve seen about him, but this was one of my biggest gripes, personally.

i understand being upset by us calling kipper (that was the last name we know of them using so if they go by something else now please correct us) “bim” since the character isn’t connected to their actions in any way.

i know ash referrerd to them as bim in the callout because he noticed them changing their name midway through writing the callout, and he knew they went by bim/thought of themselves as bim trimmer. i remember him telling me it feels wrong, but that was the best thing he could think of to prevent him from constantly going back and editing their name any time they change it.

i know we started using the bim trimmer tag, but it really was just to get awareness out, and we were told that they frequented the bim trimmer and markiplier egos tags most. the tagging wasn’t meant to cause any issues of bim as a character. i honestly hope someone else that isn’t like kipper comes along and has a stronger association with bim from the fandom.

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It's interesting how Kipper has got some form of consequences and still does the same shit time and time again, eventually he'll probably meet his maker, but until then, I hope he changes his ways before it's too late man

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ik i shouldn't be following this situation anymore, but it still upsets me that kipper tried to convince me they've changed when they haven't. they're still hiding without consequence, still changing everything about themselves, still getting nothing but love and care from their friends. I want to care about them, I want to believe they've changed. But, to me, they're the same person I met a few years ago, the same person who makes it out like they're the injured deer and everyone else are the hunters.

it hurts, it really does.

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hello! i wanna start this by saying first and foremost ; no i am not defending kipper in any sort of way in terms of how they have done wrong to the people around them. my heart does go out to those that have been hurt in some form or another by them, no matter the situation.

i am not "stalking" this account and i am not speaking up FOR them in any sort of way on any sort of request made by kipper themselves. i do not care for sending hatred towards this account nor any of the victims. i do not have any interest in knowing who runs this account. i don't believe in attacking people under any circumstance ; i'm showing my trust in the people who run this account by keeping my anon off.

i would like to shed some light on the apology document kipper has posted ; if it doesn't work you're free to dm me for another link, i would be more than happy to share it. i'm a person that firmly believes in seeing every single part of a story, right or wrong as it is. kipper themselves have shared this document on a burner account under the same tags used to share information about this entire situation as a whole. i understand if it has not reached every person affected, it's not uncommon; i simply wanted to make it known that kipper has in fact formally shared their apologies (whether the victims themselves and others choose to acknowledge and or forgive them or not) as the information that kipper has chosen to completely ignore the entire situation is factually false.

again, i am NOT defending nor attacking anyone. i just feel that it is important for information of every kind to reach the right sort of people and the people should be allowed to form their own opinions on the information at hand. you are under no obligation to even answer this ask, all i ask is that this information is not withheld to any party. i appreciate you all.

i chose to put the both asks you sent and it’s fine that you haven’t followed the full story but i know at least Ash has seen and read it. i can’t remember if they told me Dewey and Cas has seen it but they do know of it. i can’t recall if Ash has informed if any others are at least informed of it

as seen in this post Ash did appreciate the apology but doesn’t accept it as they noticed a lack of others who deserve one as well as some critics they made to it. although a lot of their words have been said out of anger (as I would know from talking to them that day) Ash still doesn’t accept it. otherwise this account would’ve been deleted as well as their doc.

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Hey youre all free to not answer but i have been wondering how ash has been doing since all of this. I am an old friend of theirs that chose to not pick sides and although i know they are more active on Instagram i don’t go on there so i was hoping you guys knew if they were.

ash is actually doing better. we do talk and last i knew anything posting about their experience with kipper has relieved them a lot. they’re okay and actually doing well.

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speaking as someone who still sees kipper, I don't think this is going to get any better. from what I have seen, they don't acknowledge this at all anymore. it's like they shoved all of you under the rug and moved on. their friends aren't confronting them about any of this, not in servers anyway.

sorry you guys (gn) haven't gotten your apologies. that's so shitty. I think everyone is brave for telling their experiences though, and for warning other's of kipper's behaviour.

can confirm that bim lives under the "same snake, different skin" pattern. they have been doing it for years, and still do it now. even fakes being an entirely different person under new accounts, for "safety." when are they going to stop running away from all this? I don't know, but I wish I did and could be of more help to their victims.

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This is more less a rant but why on Earth does Kipper keep coming back under a different name and tries to restart his TH over and over again? It wouldn't be such a problem if he really did just apologize (I haven't received any sort of apology for how he treated me) but bro literally just get called out, leave, sheds his old skin, and comes back under a different name and the cycle repeats.

AND STILL NO APOLOGY!

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wait so did kipper pretend to be one of his own friends, or am I reading the docs wrong?

chose to contact ash for an answer.

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I got word from ash that old friends of theirs being messaged just to attempt to get dirt on them.

worst of all they’re stalking ash’s WATTPAD account of places just to try and find old friends that have beef with him in an attempt to bring them down.

cheezits fucking christ.

by the way they told us who it was. not surprised they blocked us already but they’re blocked on our end too in case they want to stalk our page.

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there are several documents coming out against bim since despite a friend asking on our behalfs for bim to apologise, which bim hasn’t at all. we have been waiting a month now. we’ll be releasing these public soon, and we have already sent it to their friends who are supporting us. stop being a coward. our friend asked your friend to ask you to give apologies, and time was asked which was given. its been long enough, and in my personal doc i have proof of you being a pedophile since i was 13 and you were 18/19 at the time. i’m not waiting anymore.

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Some of us STILL haven’t been given apologies. Bim where’s the rest of them? You can’t pick and choose the apologies you give to the people you messed up. Stop being a coward. A lot of us have decided we are no longer giving you time you wanted as it’s been a month and people have repeatedly asked where your apology is for some of us, and we WILL be making our documents against you.

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this stuff has died down, but i think kipper's friends let their emotions blind them to start. naturally people will defend their friends, ugly as everything has been

i heard rain had thought their reaction over and broke off from kipper

don't know about anyone else

my gripe with kipper though, they did not shut up about being upset at their partner when we were friends. took forever for them to break up. their partner wasn't mean from what i remember, just inexperienced. but, kipper made it out like their partner was this horrible fucked up person for not giving them enough attention. hope they grew up since, god. can't imagine hate bombing my s/o with friends.

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the more I look at Kipper’s friends, the more I realize how uneducated they are on grooming.

not all grooming is sexual, and while Kipper did get sexual with some minors even they chose exclude it there is proof in grooming in Ash’s statement.

there’s the isolation for one, the manipulation, and from the conversations between Ash and Kipper, there is a power dynamic in it. Kipper quite literally had to force Ash to say something to Cas when they didn’t want to.

I’m starting to think none of Kipper’s friends actually read it, like fully read it, and if they did, i politely encourage them to actually look into what grooming is and then re-read it.

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Only reason i’m sending this is because my friend encouraged me to. however i fear that doing this with my name attached may anger kipper as i’ve managed to pull my life together without them

I am someone else kipper has affected. we used to date but they broke things off as they fell out of love. it left me heartbroken but i didn’t get too upset over it

As it would turn out not long after kipper started dated someone else someone i had no idea they’d be interested in dating. for context in private with me and some other friends of theirs they’d constantly tell us how they hated this person but now they were dating

It was not only that however as after they broke things off with them i would find out that they flirted with this person while we were still dating. i was told by this person that kipper told them i was okay with it because our relationship was open

We never once discussed such things about our relationship and it makes me slightly angry that kipper would go out of their way to lie and put words into my mouth. i would’ve been fine if they just asked if it was okay but they didn’t

I don’t know if others have been cheated on in such a way but i do know they have back talked more than this one person. i know quite a few of their friends were back talked to me. they made others hate this one person in their own friend group because they hated their art style and told others that they were stealing from them

Not only that but they’d do this for no reason. like it’ll peaceful and kipper would come out of nowhere to say to me and others that they can’t stand someone they’re friends with

It makes me sad that most of the people who supported the post that defended them they’ve talked bad about to me and others. to any of kipper’s friends that read this trying asking around i bet kipper has said something bad about you to someone and even when you think things are going well with them

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no anon for me, but I know who the most recent person was (the person who mentioned "Rain and Ender") in my making this ask, and I just want to say my piece. I know I can reach out to them personally and I will, but I won't namedrop.

the breakup with them and kipper was HUGE, and it genuinely messed up multiple people, our friends FROM the groups mentioned. im not putting that person at fault, not at entirely. but, my leaving them was not because of kipper, it was because I was emotionally and mentally drained from their side, because I was one of their rocks in the situation. kipper had nothing to do with our friendship not working out in the end. all in all, I was tired and I wished them well moving forward with their life.

I know for a fact how hard that breakup hit them, it was hell for them both, and their split wasn't over nothing. And furthermore, kipper doesn't control our friend groups, as we don't even revolve around them outside of this. I'm a person capable of my own thoughts and feelings, please acknowledge that.

As for kipper themselves, I've come to recognise they're not a good person and are responsible for a lot of hurt. I won't make excuses for them. However, for the present, I'm still their friend I think - idk how long that will last, when thinking over everything that's transpired, I still care about them.

Again, I won't namedrop or go into detail about what that anon went through, it's not my story to share. I'm sorry our friendship didn't work out, I've given my goodbyes already, but please don't pin my choices on someone else like I'm some sort of puppet.

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Whilst Bim sent shit apologies, several others including the creator of the burner account haven’t recieved well-owed apologies whatsoever. Fuck you Bim.

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