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That argument actually makes sense. So I'll give you that.

Still doesn't negate the shows of military force at the Vytal Festival and attempts to make hunters obsolete so that his military power would be the only defense for Remnant. The military power that's been proven have intentional backend flaws due to a selfish engineer. All except Penny, who's got a mind of her own and ends up turning against Ironwood in the end. Meaning Atlas' strongest weapon could be turned against them.

You could argue that he was "trying to end the use of child soldiers." but they're never actually sent off on life threatening missions without an instructor there for their protection. Only those that attend Atlas Academy, a military school, are sent out on real missions. Ironwood is the only one employing actual child soldiers. Granted we never got a feel for how Mistral or Shade operate, but I'd assume they're similar to Vale.

Then we could bring up his compliance with Atlas during the rise of the White Fang, assuming he wasn't already a high ranking member of the military at that point.

My point with this response was that Ironwood acts as an antithesis for his inspiration. Where the Tin Man found out he'd had a heart all along, Ironwood lost his somewhere along the way. At no part does he seem embarrassed by his prosthetics or even the lose of his organic arm. His jacket is representative of his position, something he has a single-minded pride in.

Anti-RWDE MFs will literally do anything to justify the show's ableism

oh great this shit again

then the why the fuck did they feel the need to do it in the first place, why the fuck was Friend written that way?

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A) It's usually written by white people who either aren't allowed to seek a consultant (Non-Disclosure Agreements stopping them from sending it out) or don't have enough time in the horridly rushed world of modern mainstream animation.

Though take a look at the show Kipo and the Age of the Wonderbeasts. It takes a fairly complex look at systemic racism from both sides of a conflict (with both sides being equally racist) and discusses the importance of reconciliation in a way that it's target audience (older children) can understand.

B) It was still bad back in the day.

Sure we had shows like Everybody Hates Chris, which unapologetically showcased racism in the 80s. And shows like Static Shock that handled these topics with grace.

But most black characters were relegated to sidekicks, usually sporty with big hair.

Even the Proud Family (a legitimately good absurdist comedy btw), which had a lot of great representation with an entire episode that shows an almost unapologetic depiction of racism in 1960s America, had it's problematic rep. The Gross Sisters are specifically coloured blue. For those reading this who don't know, blue black is slang for when somebody has extremely dark skin, getting it's name from the slight blue tinge in certain lighting. In contrast to the 60s awareness episode, you have an episode where the main cast is challenged with making one of them pretty. They're often portrayed as brutish and aggressive.

Why are writers suddenly so bad at writing stories about racism? They didn't use to be

Static Shock and Teen Titans did good, but a lot of recent shows just missed the mark completely

The Star vs. the Forces of Evil monster arc is too heavy-handed, and Star's own savior complex really brings the plot down

The White Fang plotline in RWBY is somehow both too nihilistic and optimistic in its approach

Miraculous Ladybug had one episode that attempted to show racial profiling, but let the racists go away scot-free for their actions

And I'm fully aware this last one will be a massive hot take. The Young Justice Martian plot line just wasn't good. It made no sense why it even exists. They discriminate based on skin color, but they can change appearance whenever they want, and there's an entire ceremony where they turn yellow to devote themselves to a new lifestyle

Edit: Forgot to add. The discrimination in Atlantis makes more sense conceptually, but that's not the prejudice they focus on. The more inhuman atlantean were outrighted hunted by purists for looking different. It's easier to pinpoint where the idea comes from, so it's also easier to systematically tackle every excuse used by racists to justify their own prejudice

The Owl House is the only recent show I can think of that did a decent job of writing racism. And all they did was have the main villain be an unrepentive racist out to destroy people he hates. He's from a time period when all witchcraft is evil, so when he finds a world of them, he wants them gone by any means necessary

Is it so much to ask that writers actually put some more thought into writing stories about discrimination?

How did we go backward for this specific type of story?

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I mean, it'd need a bit of actual relationship building outside of that single head cradle when Yang saves Weiss from her mother's camp, but yeh.

Freezerburn is a healthier relationship, ngl

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Used to be Church of the Creamy Goddess... I used to mess with you guys before I grew up and stopped trying to troll people. Not doing that here though, just making a few arguments in favour of Ironwood's writing. I agree that Penny's writing was week, but I don't think it was ableist because that's like saying all humans are physically disabled compared to androids.

I think Ironwood was a great antithetical representation of the character he was based off. He was never truly compassionate as far as the show's concerned. He brought a fleet of robot soldiers to Vale partially as a show of power. He put his sentient engineered super soldier up against naturally born people, again, as a show of power, to remind people that they're replaceable. And his jacket is part of uniform signifying his position in Atlas, not a means to hide his mechanical parts. Though it would be strategic to hide those parts as they're probably physically stronger than a majority of his body and seem to be powered through a natural means. When his jacket is torn off in Vale, he doesn't make any efforts to hide the fact that he's a cyborg. I see it more as pride in his political position than embarrassment. Though I might not be remembering something from Season 8.

While you could see the loss of his natural arm as him losing his humanity, he lost it as soon as he tried to force his power onto other nations (which backfired horrendously btw). HE WAS HOLDING THE WINTER MAIDEN IN STATIS SO HER POWERS WOULDN'T GO TO A RANDOM PERSON! There was a woman being kept alive well past her time, he knew it was wrong and only those closest to the project (the woman who was going to euthanize her to get her powers) knew about it. He knew about the Fall Maiden being kept on life support in Vale for the same reason. He's never been a particularly good person in this series and ended up being a villain. Just like Lionheart fell to cowardice and sold everyone out, Ironwood lacked compassion.

Anti-RWDE MFs will literally do anything to justify the show's ableism

oh great this shit again

then the why the fuck did they feel the need to do it in the first place, why the fuck was Friend written that way?

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He already has more p*rn than any other character in the show. So yep.

this guy gon cause another bowsette event when the inevitable genderbend drops

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No, messing with people. I honestly stopped giving a shit about convincing you after the second comment and I’ve been messing with you ever since.

Jaune is related to Salem.

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Nah, you just take a show about super-powered teenagers fighting a being of pure hatred really seriously and it amuses me.

Jaune is related to Salem.

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Nah, I’m at the point of trolling because you’re taking crack theories really seriously.

Jaune is related to Salem.

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Being related to Salem’s dad is being related to Salem lol.

Jaune is related to Salem.

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Some people’ll probably hate me for this, but yeah.

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Look, I’ll be honestly, this is honestly a half troll account though it’ll be utterly obvious when I’m being serious. (I probably won’t include shower thoughts in the tags).

Though on the topic of insignias. Beacon and most of the other academies have the students design their own while Jaune’s sword and shield where inherited from generations passed. So with Jaune being descended from a warrior king who’s family fell out of power (citation being the fact that Jaune’s a farm boy, he doesn’t come from wealth), is what gave him the insignia, rather than personalized. Weiss’s insignia is also inherited from her namesake. Seeing as Adam didn’t go to any of these schools, his probably also comes at least somewhat from his family, that or he found a cool jacket and decided to wear it because that’s the only place we ever see it on him.

Don’t know why you’d be so against the idea. It’d create a lot of good drama as Jaune has to come to terms with his lineage and decide whether he wants to try appealing to her as a descendant or not.

Jaune is related to Salem.

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You’re just mad because Saphron looks a fair amount like Salem when she was a human.

Jaune is related to Salem.

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I was going to write another shower thoughts about the “Little Bunny Frou Frou” references in Chibi but then I got sucked into a rabbit hole (no pun intended) about the nursery rhyme and its origins (it’s from french oral tradition, no original source is know) and a hoax, where a bunch of internet users created fake versions of Shakespear and the such. It’s actually really interesting to read about.

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Jaune is related to Salem.

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Qrow started getting emotionally better after he was no longer being voiced by a serial sexual assaulter.

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Salem probably still has a period every month considering she was already millions of years old when she had her first kids.

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You gotta word it like this in the script for them to understand.

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Yang tries to teach Blake a few club dances as the rest of the group gets ready to leave

Yang

Okay my sister, whom I love immensely and cherish beyond reasonable doubt, I am going to go out to the clubs and dance with my maybe girlfriend, I don’t know, who is also a good friend of yours.

Ruby

Okay my sister, whom I cherish and adore. I shall go to a meeting of like-minded individuals and pre-maturely celebrate a political victory for the common folk.

Weiss

Do not celebrate so hastily, my adoptive sisterhood, whom I cherish as readily as life itself. For the night is still young and the votes are not in so I shall go experience audio/video entertainment with the boys.

Me when people say Yang only cares about Blake and doesn't give a shit about Ruby: