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Happy birthday Sammy

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Where did it come from that "Jared is not a great to work with" thing? I've never heard it from anyone (maybe except Misha).

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I don't get why desti-people want to ask non-shippers this question.

I saw it many times.

out of genuine curiosity and the drive to have a calm conversation, why do you hate destiel?

I’m going to take this in the spirit intended and answer calmly. I cannot promise any of my fellow antis will do the same and cannot control their behavior.

With that caveat in place…

Easy. It’s not canon. All the supposed subtle messages, “lingering” looks, and other nonsense do not excuse nor detract from the fact that Castiel really fucked up a lot! Bringing Sam back soulless? Breaking his wall? The mess with the angel tablet? On and on… Castiel—had Misha not been “protected” by Bobby Singer, among other bullshit behind the scenes—would have been written out of any other story! No way Dean would have ever forgiven him for all the stuff that had been done to Sam!

How on earth could have Dean loved Castiel with all that?! Especially given how rabid and fanatical Dean is about Sam! It took jumping the shark to even make Castiel make sense and stay when the story would’ve demanded he be removed.

But here’s the thing—when I first watched Supernatural, it was without any knowledge of J2 and Misha. None. I only remembered Jensen from his time on Days of Our Lives. Nothing more. (And Jared from Gilmore Girls.)

I never saw Destiel. Zilch. Zip. Nada.

Maybe you did! Cool. Don’t care. It’s not canon. Jensen, the other half of the Destiel ship, has demanded more than once “Where is Destiel real?”

I’ve seen some seriously toxic and disturbing posts and comments by Hellers about how they don’t care what Jensen says. They want him forced if need be to make Destiel real.

That soured me immensely.

But! Only to those who insist it’s canon (it’s not), to those who ignore Jensen, to those who chase down and send death threats to those who are anti Destiel and/or anti Misha.

The general, quiet Destiel fans? Fine with me.

Those who behave badly? Nope. I’ve seen enough to believe the history of death threats that were sent to Jensen, the inappropriate Destiel stuff he’s had to sign in autos and pose in photo ops. He’s been accused of being homophobic, biphobic….

Such behavior has made it hard to even remotely tolerate Destiel as a whole.

I hope this answers your question.

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They've been trying to change spn to the different show. It's so annoying.

There would have been no show, you idiot. Especially not this. Whatever crap this is. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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People talk about why they ship destiel because they love it. People not talk about why they don't ship destiel because they are indifferent to it.

Non Destiel Shippers, what stops you from shipping them?

What are the reasons you don't ship them? Im just curious, not looking for a fight.

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the sheer amount of blogs who say they got into spn expecting to become destiel shippers, and then getting hella into samdean is never gonna be not funny to me

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I'm not good at listening English, but was Misha making up stories again?

twitter(.)com/CeaselessWatchr/status/1787435181294444908

Link. I think Misha is making up stories to cover up a fallout with the TW showrunner or producer.  While The Winchester was being developed, Misha tweeted to Jensen that The Winchesters could use a “time traveling angel”.  But when the showrunner or producer calls Misha, suddenly he’s “nah, not good enough for my character”?  Nah, Misha is telling tall tales to his fans that he wants to do right by their fanfictions when actually it’s because there was some kind of fallout; either from turning down the guest star gig or from trying to influence Castiel’s storyline.  Him calling Jensen afterwards is to make sure they’re still on good terms and he won’t get blacklisted from any future SPN spinoffs.

The timeline of Misha’s story means The Winchesters was still a prequel.  When they retconned it as a sequel, the appearance of Bobby Singer and Jack the God makes some sense.   Heck even Castiel appearance with the two could makes sense because it would jive with Bobby’s line in 15x20 that Cas helped Jack craft a new heaven.  Buti if Misha’s story is true, then he pissed off the showrunner or producer by turning down a guest star gig, so he wasn’t invited to the finale and lost out on the opportunity to feed the hellers with Dean and Cas in the same scene of the TW finale.

This is why actors should never say "no" whenever the phone rings.

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https://twitter.com/lettistruluv/status/1787990626379727340

TFW2pointO: Interesting spnthen&now interview with Kripke in the latest episode. He says he didn't always plan for Chuck to be God. He leaves it up to fans if Ben is Dean's son. He's been trying to get Jared on #theboys and hopes to have him for season 5. lettistruluv: After the fuss Jared stans made, when they realized how v successful Jensen’s been on #TheBoys, of course Kripke would feel bound to make every effort for Jared. Happy for him😊 What a turnaround considering some initially scoffed at & about Jensen😊

I am always so annoyed with how bad of stalkers Jared-antis are. Like, at least put in a *little* effort? Or maybe its just the people I follow but I personally have seen very few Jared fans who even want him on TB let alone that made a "fuss" over it. The only time we even talked about it was when antis would start swearing that we were so sad he wasn't on and we had to tell them that no, we do not care.

Most of us don't want him on for whatever our reasons are, but I think it's also pretty clear he doesn't really want to be on. He's very polite and pc when he answers questions about it (how he's love to but timing, saying he likes doing projects his family can watch, or he deflects talking about having to work out first, etc.) but it pretty clear that it isn't something he is really looking to do.

But this passive aggressive "so happy for him *smiley face* because I saw that big fuss from his fans, must be a pity job offer" bs is just.. not it. Like, ma'am, he keeps getting ASKED about it in interviews. Kripke keeps saying HE WANTS HIM ON and has been trying to get him to join. Jared is not and never has been the one to bring it up first.

Um most Jared fans I know aren't "scoffing" at it. They just don't like the show. Plain and simple so they never cared about it or about Jared being on it. AAs get butthurt about that all the time because "winning" doesn't work if your competition doesn't give a shit.

I agree Jared is being polite. At most he might agree to a small cameo. He plays heart of gold characters so I don't see him really making a big move on this show.

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https://www.tumblr.com/teamfreewill2pointo/749648391480426496/today-misha-said-berens-only-stayed-for-season-15

Well IF this is true (huge massive IF because both MC and Will are known to lie) it is soooooo much more embarrassing so I almost hope it is true lol. He wanted to "do it right" unlike someone else and THAT is the scene he landed on? He stayed a whole extra year at a job to make one of the most meme'ed and laughed at scenes in the whole entire show?

"he wanted to stay to write the confession and stick the landing for Castiel's ending" they couldn't even stick Jensen's landing from that push that came from the wrong side lmao. "in part because he thought the other writers would screw it up" - so instead of letting someone else 'screw it up' he just took a blowtorch to Cas' whole character development and any hope he had for not being a villain/joke after that scene??

He didn't stick anything. He confused the audience as to why Castiel's motivations suddenly changed, undermined his relationship to other characters like Jack and Sam, ruined Castiel's journey as a character and played the scene too vaguely for it to seem "romantic." Cas went from a badass learning to care for humanity to a creepy lovesick loser. The acting was bad. The writing was cringe. The editing was a giant WTF is that push? It's a bad scene and it's hilarious he's not embarrassed by it.

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I really don't get why desti-people believe that canon destiel would bring about positive impact on spn/actors. It ruins spn and that's why it won't happen, not just because Jensen hates it.

So percentage chance on canon deancas in the revival…

Same as the percentage I gave it going canon in TW: 0%.

I actually used to think there was a small chance it would go canon in the main series, although I was doubtful. Once I heard the ending, then I moved my prediction to zero and it hasn't moved from that. I'll adjust with new evidence! ETA: Jared said something fairly recently in a m&g that sort of pinged my radar, but with J2 as EPs, I don't see it happening without Jensen changing his mind on the topic. Previously, I thought they would go where the money was, but while I think that might've happened before, J2 aren't in it for the money and won't change their story for money.

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Driving through the night

My piece for the @waywardsonszine !!

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Supernatural S9E16 Blade Runners

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This scene was where I’ve started having an interest in Rowena.

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Book of the Damned (10x18) April 15th, 2015

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Random Musings on Sam and Dean: Relationships and Hunting

There is something about Sam starting out the series as the one with friends, and Dean being this loner who essentially tells him he shouldn’t even try to have relationships with other people when they are hunters. Dean sees his immediate family and hunting as the absolute most important things, and everyone else are outsiders.

Some of these things sort of stay the same over the course of the show, but others change in a pretty significant way.

Random, not super well-organized, and potentially off-base, thoughts under the cut. (If anyone actually reads this, please feel free to weigh in.)

Then, as the series goes on, Sam loses or let’s go of almost all of his relationships, until he has pretty much only Dean. He’s afraid to truly get close to anyone out of fear they will be hurt … except for Dean, who is already embedded too deeply in his heart to cut out.

Meanwhile, “Loner” Dean is collecting friends, or extended “family”. Yet, he still doesn’t want them around most of the time, seeming happiest when it’s just him and Sam, with Castiel and Bobby as tolerated/appreciated additions to the family, yet not quite full-family. I’m not including Jack here because no one will ever convince me that Dean fully let him in (and this isn’t a criticism).

The relationships differences between Sam and Dean are like an extension of how they fit into hunting.

Sam befriended normies in the past, but doesn’t fully connect with many new characters out of fear of losing them, while Dean befriends hunters and the supernatural adjacent. There is something about this … like, Dean fits the hunter life in a way Sam doesn’t, even in terms of relationships or how those in the hunting life relate to Dean vs Sam. I’m not saying Dean always likes hunting, or that he bares his soul to everyone he calls friend/family, but he fits it, even socially, better than Sam (and Dean isn’t even that friendly). Sam, with just a very few exceptions, doesn’t make himself at home in the hunting life, including not opening himself up to the people they meet… at least until much later in the series (if then). It’s like he’s afraid to fully live or engage as a hunter in some ways. This is like him refusing to see the bunker as a home until long after Dean has already thoroughly nested there.

Even Sam’s reactions to the hunting life are never quite proportionate, they are often too big (Demon blood, saving Dean from the MOC and risking literally everyone else) or too little (running when he loses Dean Season 7/8). Sam is the Goldilocks of hunting, except I don’t think he ever finds “just right.” And this doesn’t mean he isn’t good at it, or doesn’t learn to “love it,” but I don’t think it ever quite fits him fully.

Sam got close to Jessica and makes friends at Stamford, but he had fully turned his back on hunting at the time. Sam gets close to Amelia, but it’s because he’s running from hunting (and losing Dean). The only time he feels really settled in as a hunter (when it’s not a connection to Dean) is when he’s soulless. It’s only when he’s missing a crucial part of himself (or he has a revenge mission) that he fully embraces the life.

Dean, on the other hand, feels like purgatory is pure: kill the bad thing, rinse and repeat. Even when Dean is living with Lisa, he has an eye and ear open for monsters, and can’t fully shut off those instincts. Unlike with Sam, Dean melds life and hunting and family into this co-existing thing that he’s able to settle into. Again, this isn’t all Dean is, and it doesn’t come without personal/emotional/mental consequences, but Dean is a hunter, and he even suggests in Season 14 that he’s content.

Sam, in Season 10, tells Charlie he loves hunting, but he adds the caveat that he wouldn’t do it without his brother. And even getting into the weeds of Dabb era, Sam tells Mary he hunts because his family (Dean) does.

Speaking of Mary, Sam doesn’t even let her fully in. He provides a shoulder for her at times, respects her autonomy, and eve tries to make her proud, but he never fully opens up to her, not like Dean does. And we know how Sam got along with John who trained the boys to hunt .. or, you know, didn’t.

Dean is Sam’s exception. He’s close to Dean even though Dean is associated with hunting, is basically the best hunter. Sam says several times that he hunts because Dean does. He doesn’t get close to anyone in the hunting life, except for Dean. Dean is Sam’s tether into hunting after his revenge quest for Jess and guilt from losing John wear down.

Bear with me on this one, but the long-term, or big characters, associated with the hunting world are largely closer to Dean or exist to hurt Sam. John (Mr. Hunter Parent) was disappointed in Sam’s lack of both commitment to hunting and obedience, and favoured Dean (not that it did him any good). Bobby considers Sam like a son, but Dean is his clear favourite (and Sam rarely turns to Bobby for personal help, if ever). Castiel considers Sam a friend/family, but as an extension of Dean. The angels hate Sam because he’s lucifer’s vessel. Ruby was able to manipulate Sam into embracing his power (and hunting) and was closer to him than Dean, but it was because of his initial grief for Dean that she was able to get in his head. Sam is tormented by the devil himself when he’s in the hunting life. Sam never thaws towards Crowley w who tries to take Dean away when he becomes Dean’s frienemy. Mary (Mrs Hunter Parent) comes back to life and basically ignores Sam out of her own guilt and bonds more with Dean (at least at first). Rowena bonds more with Sam than Dean, but they bond over shared trauma not really hunting (though she does teach him spells, so she’s a bit of an exception). Jack, Sam actually bonds with more than Dean, but it’s over shared “freak” experience, and Jack actually becomes the new god, so while he starts as a part of hunting life, he is actually beyond it.

Even the junior hunter girls are arguably closer to Dean: Krissy, Claire and Charlie. And we have the part-time hunters. Jody is pretty close to both boys, maybe even leaning towards Sam, but she’s a cop as well as a part-time hunter. She isn’t fully in the life. Donna, the other cop and part-time hunter is definitely closer to Dean. So, the rule mostly holds true even for the more minor hunters. Finally, even a lot of the random hunters we meet hate Sam (Gordon, Walt and Roy, Girl in Episode 2 of Season 9, etc).

Anyway, my point with all of this is that there might actually be a reason that so many chracters in the hunter world, or associated with it, are closer to Dean than Sam. And it isn’t just writer favouritism or “Everybody just loves Dean” ( 🤷🏻‍♀️). I mean, it makes sense that chracters are drawn to Dean because he’s got that charm, while Sam tends towards introverted. But it actually makes sense to be more than that within the story. Sam is never quite at home, or settled in, or fits in to the hunter society or hunting world.

And yet, while most chracters are out here preferring Dean, Dean couldn’t care less because Sam is his world. And in return, Dean is Sam’s exception to everything. He stays in hunting for Dean (in the long run). He gives up many of his morals for Dean. He risks damning everyone in the world with the darkness for Dean. He learns to love hunting because it’s part of his life with Dean. And he gives it up again when there is no Dean alive on earth (assuming he quits in the finale).

I know there is more to their relationships than this little summary, and this didn’t cover Deans also complex relationship with hunting and John and Mary, etc., but it just stuck me as interesting how so much of the show truly points to Sam not fitting in the hunting world. It’s almost like he paused his regularly scheduled programming to be with Dean for the rest of Dean’s life, before carrying on.

But the kicker is, even though Sam (seemingly) gets out of hunting, the normal life can no longer fit him either because it doesn’t have his big brother Dean in it.

It is undoubtably sad that Dean dies young, but Sam is also still living out a tragedy at the end of Supernatural.

The fact that we got reunited brothers on that bridge is … everything.