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I've decided to leave Liar Liar Lover as a fangame.

There's a few reasons for this

1) I want to keep my fanworks and originals separate without muddying the waters on which is what 2) I currently feel constrained with what I can do within the LaDS universe and want to set my own rules of the universe rather than needing to delve deep into the wiki in the future 3) The ROs I would like to add would be for a different audience than those looking for LaDS fanworks. The other LaDS ROs I haven't played as much so I don't feel knowledgeable enough to write about them, either 4) I like the fact that this is a finished project, and want to move on to my next.

Future updates? Is there a future?

I'm still planning on making a few updates to liar liar, here's the main things that the updates will cover:

1) The four new endings 2) Explaining the lore better in the early chapters so that players who don't know LaDS won't be lost 3) Finally fixing once more to see you and no more summer, my two beloved and nonsensical children

As to whether or not there is a future for liar liar lover… I don't know.

Over the course of this project (which began months before I started posting about it,) I've picked up Love and Deepspace and put it down again multiple times. I love the game, it's basically my one venture into heterosexuality (lol) but I can't stick around with it when I fall so easily to its gacha mechanics. Honestly, I'd love to make an update with the other love interests, but I don't know them as well as I know Rafayel. I'd need to be really into the game again and playing the other love interests' stories to write for them.

I love liar liar lover, I wouldn't have written 43k words in two weeks for a project I feel ambivalent about… and I want to continue it. But until I (inevitably) fall down the LaDS rabbit hole again, we're getting close to when liar liar ends, and I'm not going to bound myself to a future I'm not certain of.

So once I do the next update(s) and finish the issues that remain, I'm changing the title back to "Complete." If I come back after, that's fine. If I don't, so be it. Sometimes, you just gotta move on.

Onto newer (and older?) things

I really enjoyed writing liar liar lover and I want to do something similar. Dangerous ROs, low/urban fantasy world, that sort of thing. I'm still brainstorming on names, but hopefully in a few months time I'll be back with a project that people who enjoyed liar liar can also enjoy.

Just one teensy little wasp nest that I've been ignoring… I actually already have a WIP? It's been a pain in the ass lately because I still need to figure out how I'm going to implement a few mechanics, but I do indeed have a WIP. The Truthkeeper… is a mess. But I'll finish what I started. I just don't know what a reasonable timeline for it is.

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liar liar lover

To play the game of 89k words, go here

Rafayel, a kind and loving painter, is using his connections to kill his associates.

You are his best friend who he dearly loves. Maybe in another life things would’ve been easier.

(Rafayel and all the ways he says he l̶̯̞̱̬̘̜̗̏͒̂̐̈͋̍̓ô̶̡͙̤̻̐̓͑̚͝v̴͕͖̙̦̩͚͓̠̌̄͂͒͜ȇ̵̪̆͐̒̈́͠s̶̬̬̼͆͛̚ you.)

Liar Liar Lover is an interactive novel where you're the main character. Play as a Deepspace Hunter who gets pulled deeper and deeper into the case of the Art Killer. Is true love truly unconditional? Can soulmates be tied together by a destiny full of bad endings?

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19 February 2025 Update Log for Liar Liar Lover

BIG 43k Word Update!

I’ve been thinking about adding another RO, but because she’s an original female character it kinda doesn’t work with Liar Liar Lover being a fannish work. I am considering turning this into my full original content though, but I would have to remove the bonus chapters to accomplish that. Idk, I’ll be looking through feedback and comments the next few days before making a decision. I would have to contact Hosted if they’re cool with a future non-fannish version of Liar Liar Lover, considering the roots for this work I’d rather be cautious in this aspect.

Word Count: 46k → 89k → or 32k per playthrough Difference: +43k words

The bonuses do not have a friendship route nor an AMAB player character! They haven’t been worked on yet, so they default to an AFAB player in a romantic pursuit of Rafayel!

Major Changes

Added the Affection mechanic

There's now different ways to handle the assailant in Part 11

Added an AMAB player character

Ending Two now has a choice that leads to Ending Three

Minor Changes

Added the Devotion mechanic (mainly for fun)

Added the Executioner achievement (kill the killer to get this)

Added the Killer Killer achievement (to find out how, go to the CoG Forum page for Liar Liar Lover!)

Added the Broken Ideals achievement (to find out how, go to the CoG Forum page for Liar Liar Lover!)

Added more Ending achievements (Decline Forever; Grab the Knife; Become Rafayel; Choose Happiness) (None of these are achievable yet lol)

Fixed the NSFW Chapter Select redirecting to the regular Chapter Select instead of to itself

Added headers to the stat page

Ash is her human name, Azh is her (newly added) Lemurian name. Might be a bit unclear so let me know.

Fixed potential errors that happened if players skipped around using the Chapter Select menus

Left to Work On

The four new endings

More lore, specifically for the Hunters and the Lemurians

More early setup. Assume readers are new to the world and need to be clued in on more information

Add more scenes with MC’s other friends where they react to what’s happening (specifically after Part 11)

Fix up Once More To See You annnnnddddd No More Summer

Maybe one or two more spicy scenes within the good endings, y’know, as a treat

Notes

This update will unfortunately break saves.

Not only did I write a bunch for the AMAB spice scenes (those chapters went up by 24k words), I also expanded on what AFAB MCs can do

Oh yeah, I’m planning on adding four more endings. Even if I thought the new endings were good ideas, I normally wouldn’t make them for a longer WIP due to the fact that not many readers are going to experience them, BUT because Liar Liar Lover is a shorter project and is a much quicker read, I decided it’d be worth it

[sanamwrites]

Sooo getting The Truthkeeper in the shape I want it to be before I post it on CogDemos has been a bit frustrating. The scope of what I want to do is ballooning and it's going to take longer to write.

So let me ask you, previous readers and newer readers alike, what do you prefer?

Rough Demo Update: all content is available through Chapter Select, but most of the RO content does not come up naturally during an average playthrough

Improved Demo Update: all content comes up naturally during an average playthrough

(Feel free to vote even if you're not following this project!)

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About the polls I just posted

I’ve been making some pixel art for the cover of my WIPs and I was wondering what the larger opinion is on this type of art style for an IF. I draw a bit, but I mainly create pixel art over other styles. I do it for fun and don’t really care about “getting gud” but I do want to know if this is good enough as a cover or if I should commission a different artist once a WIP is done.

For The Truthkeeper (still working on it) I had commissioned some art early on. With two more years of drawing under my belt, however, I finally feel more secure in myself to consider my pixel art halfway decent. I'm just wondering if I should always commission, or if this art style is appealing enough to the IF audience

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I haven’t been as specific with jotting down how many words were done each day, but I checked how much the word count has increased since I first posted liar liar lover about a week ago as a milestone reward and… I’ve done 20k words.

I’m kinda worried. I was hoping to have a healthier relationship with writing this time around, since my usual pattern so far has been → writing a whole bunch for a month → dropping off the face of the planet for a few months to a year and → coming back to repeat the process. I did this by not being strict about word counts and how productive I’m being, but it seems I’m falling for old habits.

My partner jokes every time that I write like I’m running out of time, and she’s right. Quite frankly, I don’t know how else to write. Outside of forcing myself to “clock out” so to speak, I don’t know how to stop myself from writing like a madman before proceeding to burn out.

But I so desperately want to avoid that result again. I enjoy the feeling of being super productive, but I don't want to spiral again. I'd rather a slower release schedule over writing 50k in a month and then not writing for a few after.

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Dark Romance and Happily Ever Afters

So I’ve been dancing around the dark romance subreddit and was surprised to find how many readers feel that a book should have a Happily Ever After or a Happily For Now ending for it to meet the criteria of a dark romance.

Say a player can decide if they want a romantic Happy Ending that is explicitly made out as the bad ending for the narrative. In this case, the MC gets with the villain RO (Rafayel) and becomes a villain themselves. To be clear, it’d be the only Happy Ending to the romance plot.

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This one is still just dashingdon, can't play :-(

Aww hello, I'm glad that you miss it or are interested in playing it! I've been correcting some mistakes with The Truthkeeper and restructuring how the romance is done, so it'll be a while longer before it's ready to be posted again. I can't give an exact ETA, but my personal deadline for it is a month, maybe two... but no promises.

This might be an unpopular experience, but not having the WIP posted has taken the pressure off. There's no feeling of obligation, just love for these characters and world. Getting feedback is incredibly valuable, but I want to have more done before I expose it to the world again

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Endings, Endings, Endings!

Liar Liar Lover has a lot of them. Here's how to find all variations! Small spoilers ahead. Do note that I am planning out an eventual update with Yet Another Ending (lol)

Ending One:

Always accessible by default, but gives a choice on what other Ending to go through

Ending Two:

Choose “I believe the delusion” at the end of Ending One

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Ending Two happens

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Ending Three + No Bonus:

Choose to fight the delusion (“I fight back”) at the end of Ending One

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Most of Ending Three plays

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Choose to trade your forever (“I’ll trade my forever for you, too”) at the end of Ending Three

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Then decline the trade (“Let me sleep”) still at the end of Ending Three

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Ending Three + Once More To See You:

Choose to fight the delusion (“I fight back”) at the end of Ending One

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Most of Ending Three plays

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Choose to trade your forever (“I’ll trade my forever for you, too”) at the end of Ending Three

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Choose to confirm the trade (“Give me a broken forever”) still at the end of Ending Three

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This leads to Once More To See You

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Ending Three + No More Summer:

Choose to fight the delusion (“I fight back”) at the end of Ending One

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Most of Ending Three plays

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Choose to NOT trade your forever (“I won’t give anything to you”) at the end of Ending Three

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This leads to No More Summer

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[sanamwrites]

Rafayel, a kind and loving painter, is using his connections to kill his associates.

You are his best friend who is slowly falling for him. Maybe in another life things would’ve been easier.

(Rafayel and all the ways he says he l̶̯̞̱̬̘̜̗̏͒̂̐̈͋̍̓ô̶̡͙̤̻̐̓͑̚͝v̴͕͖̙̦̩͚͓̠̌̄͂͒͜ȇ̵̪̆͐̒̈́͠s̶̬̬̼͆͛̚ you.)

This is a fangame for Love and Deepspace’s Rafayel, but it can be played without the context of the source material

To play the game, go here

[sanamwrites]

Rafayel, a kind and loving painter, is using his connections to kill his associates.

You are his best friend who is slowly falling for him. Maybe in another life things would’ve been easier.

(Rafayel and all the ways he says he l̶̯̞̱̬̘̜̗̏͒̂̐̈͋̍̓ô̶̡͙̤̻̐̓͑̚͝v̴͕͖̙̦̩͚͓̠̌̄͂͒͜ȇ̵̪̆͐̒̈́͠s̶̬̬̼͆͛̚ you.)

This is a fangame for Love and Deepspace’s Rafayel, but it can be played without the context of the source material

46k words total

→ or about 27k per playthrough

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I'm coming back!

Hey all! It's been a rollercoaster the past couple months, but I've been slowly crawling back into writing. 2024 did not allow me to do as much as I planned, but here's hoping for a healthier 2025

I'm currently prepping an update for The Truthkeeper IF, that would then be posted to COGdemos. I can't give a date as I'm also correcting some mistakes I made in earlier chapters, but I've written an approx. 20k words for it so far

I'm ALSO preparing an IF based off of a fiction I wrote for Love and Deepspace's Rafayel. This project can be read without needing the source material's context, and it's almost done! This would also be posted on COGdemos and cross-linked on AO3

I'm excited for what the future holds!

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Hello I really enjoyed your story. I was wondering if it was still being worked on since there have been no news and the thread on the forum is now locked.

Oh hi! Thanks for checking in, friend.

To be honest, my priorities have not been on The Truthkeeper lately. I'm still writing it, surprisingly enough, but I won't be able to consistently post anytime soon. Ideally, I can get it to a place where most of the chapters and romance parts are done, in which case I'll post more of the beta so it can be fixed up. I'm not sure yet on how I want to post going forwards, but rest assured that I haven't given up on it.

This is a story that I care a lot about, and there's no doubt in my mind that I will finish it in some way or form, but unfortunately life has gotten in the way of passion and I've had to put the story on hold until I'm able to properly get back into it.

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Hey! I just wanted to let you know there’s an error with the saves,

“Error: Bad slot- Has smPlugin been included?”

I’m also not able to get past Gray’s Part 1. It loops it after every main route.

Save slots have been fixed!

About the error in Gray's Part 1, I think I fixed it? I'm not sure, I just reuploaded the file to dashingdon and it didn't repeat the error. Maybe an old mistake I fixed and forgot to reupload? If you have a moment, I'd appreciate it you checked it to see

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Hi! Just wanted to let you know that there's an error with save slots: 'Error: Bad Slot - Has smPlugin been included?' Hope you have a nice day!

Hey, thanks for pointing that out! It's been fixed now ^-^