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gooood morning i’m putting this here now to just complain a little (and also give some updates)

i looked over the oots summaries last night to get an idea of the character arcs and oh my gosh, it’s a mess. i’m already throwing out so much, like the beaver journey.... and sign of the moon. like the whole book. bc practically all of sign of the moon is dedicated to going on a useless journey to the tribe

anyway. last note. lion and jay will be focused on less during oots... i lov them & their arcs are important but with ivy and dove already being key characters, and cinder now being added (a shift from canon), i just think it would be too cluttered having five individual character arcs per book... theyll still be there! they’ll still be important, but they will have less of a spotlight than they did in pot

i am probably going 2 go a bit wild with the tigerdove stuff in the control au .. i recently started planning oots :)) anyway gonna go to sleep now, gn everyone !!!! remember to stan dovewing, she loves u and so do i

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sorry for the inactivity !! ive taken a bit of a break from planning but i hope to get back into it soon

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dose hawkfrost know the three? wats his relation with them?

he does! he works with the three, cinderheart and ivypool to take down starclan.

he really likes jay and lion and wants them to like him too... hes their kin!!!! hes uncle hawk !!!!! he kinda tries too hard HAHA and its not like they make things easy for him.... jay naturally resents him bc hes been trained to hate dark forest cats, and lion doesnt rlly trust him

he and cinderheart get on rlly well !!! theyre both mentors to ivy and experienced corruption so they have a really neat “solidarity” thing going on

hawk ... doesnt like dovewing. and its not her fault! he’s just projecting. hes quite protective of ivy and continuously compares their situations (like, hawk feels as though mothwing abandoned him and dove abandoned ivy... also i just realised dove and moth have the same suffix, to rub salt in the wound). he begrudging works with her but he doesnt trust her bc he “gets bad vibes thats all ivypool stop reading into this its not that deep” (it is)

he doesnt really get to know hollyleaf bc yknow... she runs away, and by the time shes back things are very intense as the final battle gets closer and closer. they probably talk at some point tho, what with their shared connections to ashfur and stuff

oh and. ive talked a bit about the ivy-hawk dynamic but hes her mentor but also !! theyre friends. they really help each other out, from moral to support to Saving The Clans. genuinely, they make each other better in multiple ways.............. and also theyre just rlly funny bc they come up with rlly chaotic plans and just Go For It without thinking abt the consequences . i love em

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A few years ago I saw this post on corrupted cats. In the dark forest they grow horns and extra eyes in their face and even an extra tail sometimes. The trainees of the dark forest would use flowers to cover their corruption up. -Pams⭐️

YOOOO those are really neat ideas !!! tysm

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i wanna do more art at some point, do u guys wanna see my possessed concept (esp. for the three !) orrrr a corrupted cat (ive got vague hawkfrost + cinderheart concepts) ?

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corrupted hollyleaf concept >:) not final. heres my normal design for her

little design notes:

- she carries the scent of ash and burnt holly (: - shes more spiky than my usual design. i might do somethin fun w her tail - a little bit of a red overlay - scar on chest is meant to represent her prophecy mark (or lack thereof), scar on leg was caused by the collapsing rocks. yes they are kinda meant to look like holly leaves - TEEF !!!!!! and funky ears - curled claws that r permanently unsheathed - four eyes baybee ! one pupil is half-white to symbolize her (missing) connection to starclan. also !!! her extra eyes (they r useless but they look cool) are blue bc ashfur.... - umm thats all i think. im open to more ideas and stuff !!! shes meant to look like a monster/beast, i got insp from corrupt steven (suf)

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I am a 20+ year old person who has struggled a lot with my creativity recently. Seeing younger folks get so ambitious about projects like this gives me so much pride and inspiration. Keep up the great work!!!

oh thank you so so much !! i’m really glad this little au could help inspire you 😁 good luck with your own projects, too!

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i intend to make an actual starclan lore post eventually, but anyway, the strength of a spirit’s power is based on how old they are. the older they are, the more powerful they are. this applies to most importantly starclan and also other spirits, like the tribe

the reason fallen leaves is so powerful is because he’s older than starclan, even older than jay’s wing and the other guides. obviously he couldnt defeat an entire army, but he’s definitely a force to be reckoned with

rock is even older (like, he witnessed the creation of the tribe lol) and should be one of the most powerful spirits ever, but after his war with starclan, he lost a fair amount of power. he hasnt been able to get that power back because starclan have only been getting stronger since then... he’s been left “cursed” in a sense, unable to become more powerful than starclan as long as they thrive

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i don’t talk about fallen leaves enough, he’s honestly fantastic.... he’s super positive and eager to help in whatever way he can and just incredibly pure but also SUPER powerful. like, powerful enough to rival starclan but he has no idea for the longest time

it adds a layer of humor to the rock-fallen leaves dynamic because rock is super ancient, older than starclan, and has been trying to defeat them for decades. and this energetic, much younger spirit shows up and just. does all this stuff rock has been trying to do for ages

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SUNRISE’S OUTLINE IS FINISHED!!!!!!! oh my gosh, that was dramatic. hollyleaf really snapped huh

i’m gonna revise all of my pot outline/s over the next few days, make some changes probably, and then i’ll start oots! :D

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cinderheart, just trying to vibe, having absolutely no idea about reincarnation, corruption, or the prophecy:

sol: hey :) by the way youre one of the most powerful cats to ever live because starclan cannot reach you. ok bye <3

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@dew-drop-of-honey hi u asked im over here now

i was gonna wait but tbh im excited so--

if anybody actually wanted 2 wait until the outlines come out to read the whole plot, ur welcome to ignore this lol

it still needs some tweaking but !! currently outlining long shadows for this, which is the book where a lot of stuff happens (obviously) BUT ALSO... where jaypaw goes back in time as jay’s wing aaand sees the pre-tribe cats decide if they should go to a new home (that new home eventually becoming the tribe of rushing water ofc)

in canon, it doesn’t progress the plot very much. it gives us some cool history and lore !! but like, plot-wise... not much. i wanted to change that, so instead i decided that starclan gave hollyleaf the back-in-time dream as a desperate effort to make her connection stronger to them (since she’s got the weakest connection)

unfortunately for starclan, rock manages to intercept the dream and actually have a proper “conversation” with her (i say conversation loosely bc it was more him dumping a bunch of information abt how bad starclan is and warning her lol, she didnt get to say much). something he says right at the end is “but don’t worry, theres still a chance to fix it. you can still save everyone”

wooosh, rock dream ends. hollyleaf (as holly’s thorn) is back in the pre-tribe, literally JUST about to cast her vote on if the group leaves their home....

the “genius idea” i had literally a few minutes yes this is absolutely an impulse decision but . BUT.... anyway

if hollyleaf casts her vote as “no,” theoretically & if shes the tie-breaker at all, the pre-tribe group never leaves their home, the tribe never forms and therefore, the clans never form. meaning starclan doesnt exist, and never control or harm the clans.... ever

the fate of the very clans existence is in hollyleaf’s paws, and she barely even knows it.

OH MY GOD I JUST HAD A GENIUS IDEA, SOMETIMES I AM SMART

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on a slightly unrelated note, this can also be connected to an incredibly important element of this au: starclan’s mindset.

most starclan cats join as good; pure, wanting to do the right thing... their mindset shifts over time... they’re manipulated, they begin to follow the crowd, they’re forced into submission, etc.. they ultimately forget who they used to be & what life is like for the clans. they are only focused on one goal: control.

i’ve got a theory that (most) cats in starclan are so at peace and have so little to worry about, that they begin to forget their own life and what life is like for the clans. cats naturally fading are not others forgetting them, but, in fact, them forgetting their own life.

it’s backed up by, or at least explains, some parts of squirrelflight’s hope, like hollyleaf and ashfur being so comfortable with each other. they are not only forgetting why they were ever fighting with each other, but also that they were even fighting at all. similarly, sandstorm practically encouraged squirrelflight to join them, as though life to her was barely even memorable or important.

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hey also pls let me know if theres anything else i should change re: ableism in the series

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with #warriorcatsbbleism spreading on twitter (!!! very exciting btw, i heard an ableist line around briarlight was removed from one of the recent books), i’d talk about some changes i’ve made:

cinderpelt - still becomes a medicine cat, but out of interest for the job, and not because she broke her leg. also, she isn’t reincarnated into cinderheart because she needed a “second chance,” it’s for other reasons. i’m gonna tweak them a bit, but you can generally find those “other reasons” in my post about cinderpelt.

snowkit - ...doesn’t die so early. he and his peers learn sign language, and he lasts long into warriorhood. he probably dies sometime during tnp.

longtail - stays as a warrior! simple as that. timeline-wise, he probably dies at a similar time as he did in canon.

jayfeather - i’d like to go into further detail on his changes once all the outlines are done, but didn’t train briefly as a warrior or w/e. he always felt a pull towards being a medicine cat.

briarlight - remains a warrior! she guards the camp, hunts, and fights in battles. shes honestly pretty terrifying in battles, being able to run full speed at someone and then twist around and hit them.

cinderheart - still injures her leg and has to heal in the med cat den for a while, but it’s actually the corruption that halts her assessment, not the injury itself. the corruption was caused (or, continued) by the initial pain of the injury, then the lack of exercise/effort to fight it, and cinderpaw’s mindset. leafpool still babies her like in canon, but its mostly bc shes projecting... thinking about how she Couldnt save cinderpelt from dying and exaggerating cinderheart’s situation in her mind. just like in canon, it’s jaypaw who takes cinderpaw out swimming and makes both leaf and cinder realize that she’s literally fine, she just needs to strengthen her leg a bit. cinderheart probably lives with a permanent limp, though it’s not as obvious as cinderpelt’s.

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I am curious, how are you planning this?

so while i’ve asked for advice for some other people with thought-out aus, my current way of doing it is by reading over the long, book-specific summary pages on the warriors wiki. i make dot points of the events, changing some things to make them line up with the “control” part. my plan is, once i’ve finished all the way up to the last hope (or perhaps just sunrise, for pot), i’ll go back over the notes and change some more stuff ! make it more control-y, fill in some plotholes, just make it more like something i enjoy.

(and also probably neaten out the dot points and make them into more well-structured sentences/paragraphs... tho i’m not quite sure what format the public will see just yet)

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i always somehow manage to squeeze in a “breezepaw is a brat” or a “breezepelt says something rude” while planning, even tho its not important to the plot at all