syscoursecontainment

[syscoursecontainment]

syscourse is a flat circle anyway do y'all want pizza

[syscoursecontainment]

Well I guess this blog is the place to ask something like this. Do any other systems have varying opinions on syscourse among their alters/headmates?

I'm leaning more towards anti-endo personally but my headmate who mainly runs this blog is more pro-endo (idk if this is impossible to believe but we don't really fight about it. Then again we don't really talk to each other about it). We have the most extreme difference on it in the system, most of our other headmates are apathetic/neutral on syscourse. But it makes me conflicted about where we belong syscourse-wise so I wanted to reach out and see if there's any fellow systems who relate

I mean, both of us have our own blogs and interact with different people, but it makes running our one or two joint system blogs slightly harder. Not that it really matters since I barely use them anyway

(You can interact with this post regardless of your stance. obviously)

[syscoursecontainment]

just gonna say it one more time for anyone who didnt hear it:

ENDOGENIC IS NOT SYNONYMOUS WITH NOT DISORDERED. ENDOGENIC SYSTEMS CAN BE DISORDERED AND HAVE TRAUMA AFFECT THEIR SYSTEM EVEN IF IT DIDNT FORM FROM TRAUMA.

[syscoursecontainment]

Daily reminder mostly for myself that origincourse is terminally online and if you asked a System in real life if they were traumatized as a child they would be so bewildered their head would explode

[syscoursecontainment]

Hot take take, syscourse is not activism

[syscoursecontainment]

Genuinely what is wrong with some of y'all. It's perfectly fine to not want to talk to/invite anti-endos into your spaces, *obviously*. I don't usually wanna talk to anti-endos! But like, again, do you think having the only interaction with endogenics antis get being screaming matches and hate will at all help us????

I grew up in a conservative echo chamber and if the only interaction I ever got from liberals were ones proving my parents were correct about them, I would never have thought to question my beliefs. This is basic harm reduction, people?????????? The way some of yall are treating human beings like the literal devil just because they believe something harmful, as if we all haven't done that at sole point, makes me not want to associate with yall.

[syscoursecontainment]

Honestly the more time goes on the more quoigenic/praesigenic is appealing to use as my origin. The last thing I want to do is think about my trauma and whether its the source of being plural.

[syscoursecontainment]

Pro endos who used to be anti endos shouldn’t have a place in the pro endo community. Because like how can you be so hateful and them expect that they should be accepted immediately?

.

[syscoursecontainment]

"I'm anti-endo and I want to protect pwCDDs!" but you call pwCDDs who disagree with you endogenic. But you exclude them from posts that aren't even CDD-specific and would be extremely helpful to hear as a trauma survivor. But you exclude them from posts that ARE CDD-specific, even though they have a CDD. But you say you wish they'd disappear along with endogenic systems. But you tell them to kill themselves.

Somehow, I have this strange gut feeling that this isn't about "protecting pwCDDs".

And for the record, this post isn't meant to be taken as "DIRECT YOUR ANGER TOWARDS THE ENDO MENACE" because your treatment of endogenic systems as a monolithic concept you don't understand and don't like and therefore think should be eradicated, rather than...fucking human beings is gross too. It just drives me up a wall to hear a lot of "Endos are hurting pwCDDs" along with that. Like...

Excluding them from CDD spaces isn't hurting them?

Telling them they don't belong isn't hurting them?

Saying you wish they'd disappear/die isn't hurting them?

Telling them to kill themselves isn't hurting them?

Or is it just the "real" pwCDDs? The ones that check all of your boxes?

Is it even about pwCDDs at all anymore?

Honestly I've been taking a small step back from active syscoursing, but y'all are far, far too comfortable behind your screens. Most of you would never say the things you do to someone's face; if you would, you need to get it together and start seeing your fellow humans as...fellow humans.

I don't even know if this is worded well. I'm just tired. Syscourse is a flat circle. It's an endless loop of droning nonsense that honestly just makes people miserable. It brings out such disturbing behavior and it's just so...tiresome.

TL;DR, do better, etc.

[syscoursecontainment]

mfw someone coins a flag or term that fits my role perfectly but says “pro endos this is not for you!” like i am traumagenic omfg.

Oh my god :(

[syscoursecontainment]

As a fully tramuagenic system something I can say with my full chest is that Endogenic do not cause harm or any sort of invalidation to our system and never will. An Endogenic system existing will never cause our experience to be invalidated. An Endogenic system using "DID/OSDD terms" will never take those terms away from me or my system. An Endogenic system simply existing in my community will not take that community away.

I find that anti endos blame endogenic systems for their problems when they should really be blaming abliest.

An Endogenic system won't make it harder for you to get help, the medical system already did that for you.

An Endogenic system won't make singlets take you less srsly, they already don't.

Endogenic systems aren't the problem, it's the medical system that refuses to have doctors who know even the smallest amount about DID/OSDD. It's the abliest who won't take us srsly no matter our origin.

Stop blaming endogenics for things they didn't cause to excuse your abilesim and bigotry

[syscoursecontainment]

so anyway i think the best thing to do when talking about any contentious topic online is probably to completely make up your mind about the topic beforehand, preferably just based on vibes, and then painstakingly cherrypick individual sentences from scientific literature that make you look correct. if anyone corrects you that's basically the same as insulting AND threatening you personally and you should respond accordingly. & always remember the winner of the argument is whoever makes themselves look cooler and smarter to uninformed bystanders

[syscoursecontainment]

Oh no...the horror of someone who's fine with endos or an endo themselves using a template/icon/graphic/flag/ect. you chose to put publicly online thus anyone can see...

[syscoursecontainment]

arguing and/or making people mad at you online will never have a net positive outcome. if arguing online could effect widespread change then i would have shaped the world to my desires by now but no, the only thing i get out of it is smug satisfaction and the illusion of control. i continue to do it because i am a cantankerous insufferable bitch who likes those things, but doing it to create any kind of change in the world would be foolish. the sad truth is that if you want a lot of people to start agreeing with you who didn't before, you have to be respectful and nice to them

[syscoursecontainment]

On notes that are not DNIs because I am tired of breaking my mind over the shitty writing on my last post.

Personally, I think singlets should stay out of syscourse, but I am aware that there are varying opinions on this topic... and I am curious about what others think.

[ This Blog has No Do Not Interact. Be respectful regardless of your opinions or stances on topics and I will respect you. If you're an asshole, eat dirt and leave!! ]

[syscoursecontainment]

I get weird feelings about the term endo-apathetic. Because like. By default that should be most people's position. Why is it expected that you have to have strong feelings about people like me. Can't I just give my life without everyone needing to pick a side? Can't people just say, oh, that's a human being, I'm gonna be normal about them?

[syscoursecontainment]

Also sorry if it seems like I'm trying to lump in endo-neutrals with pro-endos, that wasn't my intention. I just thought it'd be interesting to see if anyone who isn't now completely anti-endo used to be so.

Something I'm curious about, sorry if someone else has made a similar poll