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nani-nonny · 1 year
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Reading ch 8, not going pass the title and am IMMEDIATELY smiling like a goofy, giddy idiot before trying to calm down and focus on reading!!
When i read that DMD and LCD were close to each other i for seconds forgot that " Achilles " is LCD and thought it was WDS and wondered 'hmm, what's wrong?' Until i finally remembered it's LCD and sucked air thinking 'WHY ARE YOU SO CLOSE?!? 6 FEETS FOR QUARANTINE!!'. Also DMD running away and - forcefully(?) - guiding everyone somewhere is like... A bit childish, bruh.
The fact the 4 can set up camp with no words or even glance at each other is like.. 👌🏻✨ please i need my IRL people do that.
Seeing that reunion start talking first i was thinking 'Of course he getting talk first! Old man gotta see people's tea!!'. And he asked about his name, my mind went 'oh boy! Oh boy! Come on buddy, don't show them you're 100% mama's boy, k?'.
Tho i admits i loved how big mama in reunion's time had retired.. Wonder if she's back with Splinter... And wonder if Someone took her place, maybe Donnie?
The moment he mentions ✨ After War ✨ and how everyone reacts to him ESPECIALLY LCD is just makes me go 'Aww! He's admiring him!🥺', it made my heart melt, like how kids see someone who did greater things and be like them?!
But the moment he 'bit' his tongue i was like WOW!!
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Bro, the two - DMD & Reunion - are deflecting the questions as if they're playing Tennis!
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WDS just result to begging is so me, feeling so done and don't want to be teased anymore and just wants straight answer. Reunion begin speechless made me think 'That's what you get for trying to sip other people's tea!!' But i liked how he used a dating sim game to describe the situation.
Now my brain went 'wait he lost everything? How? He won, his brothers are alive, the city is safe... Does he mean his childhood??'. So back to DMD giving out a short summary was good but LCD is a bit cringed or disgusted and i don't blame him! I don't think he can tell the truth but would he lies about his nickname's story??
AND DAMN IT WDS EXPOSED HIM!! Wonder what the ghosty brothers would say!!!😂 and when Reunion said 'father issues on top of mother issues?' I just laughed xD AND THE MIDDLE FINGER MAKES IT BETTER!!😂😂😂 their shenanigans is soo good! I live for this!! AND WDS ASKED FOR HIS AGE AGAHAHAHA!!!!😂😂😂
When WDS whispered 'I know' i was certain he'll gonna have to tell them about his *ahem* ear scratching! Lol.
But this chapter left me EVEN MORE EXCITED 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
This squad of peepaws is honestly bringing out the childishness that the peepaws have hidden deep behind the angst and Resistance Leader facade /j
And Reunion being a chismoso gives me *life* he has to know everyone’s business hahah!
In his timeline, Big Mama is like the granny that have those little porcelain dollies that are encased in the glass cabinets except it’s artifacts she hoarded from her big time boss era. She’s working with prosthetic legs trying to simply vibe in the weak society the turtles are trying to rebuild.
The memes!!! <333333
Old Timer is being looked up to for a brief second and it makes me happy :)))
But yes, Reunion has everything. He won the war and got his brothers back thanks to the past turtles resetting his timeline, but that doesn’t erase the fact that he had to lose everything in order to get it back. So he definitely has that lingering in the back of his mind that he often brings up in therapy. He lost the war once, and he’s glad he was able to beat it the second time around, hence his “reset”. (In simpler terms, the movie happened, but thanks to past turtles, they were able to turn back time and restart on a better note. Sadly, he and the future turtles remember dying.)
Anyways, we’ll have to see what LCD shares about his story after WDS’s turn hahah! And it should be WDS’s turn on the second night of their journey to saving the original Leo! (Next chapter)
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criticalintellect · 4 years
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UGH alright let's try this, hopefully I'll be coherent. So I've had my twitter account for about a year now(?) and every month or so, for about a week, just outta nowhere people suddenly feel like shitting on Lovecraft. The last two times it makes sense how it came about since we had gotten news that a new Call of Cthulhu "sequel" was getting made. The premise we were given was goddamn horrendous, but it's popped up again because it's creator felt like being a cunt on Twitter for some reason: Call of Cthulhu: Death May Die. Shelving the fact that sounds like a Devil May Cry parody, I won't focus too much on the game, though I will say it's NOTHING like the Terminator ripoff we were told it was gonna be (I could be mistaking DMD with another boardgame abortion using H.P.'s work) and the wording in the game synopsis I found is completely contrary to cosmic horror; talking about fighting the Old Ones and "shoot[ing] it in the face". Eric Lang is the man of the hour; he's had quite a bit of experience in boardgames and even video games, working on Duelyst (which I really did like). So to see this man in search of a personality put on his most psychotic stare, trim his pubic hair wig, and stand in front of a cardboard cutout of H.P. Lovecraft and give it the finger, all to post it on twitter and say he hates this man and his work...while at the same time profiting from his work DIRECTLY. I'm a little...perturbed. These retard fests always come in at least 3 flavors: Lovecraft was a racist, dO yOu KnOw WhAt He NaMeD hIs CaT?!?!?!, and Lovecraft didn't contribute anything and all his fans are racist. No to all 3.
Now maybe I'm hanging on semantics, but from my reckoning I would say HPL was more xenophobic than racist. He didn't hate other people or races. Yes he did believe that certain people had "superior" genetics, but never in his notes have I seen him go on tirades about how those of "lesser" genes need to be culled or anything. He literally just wanted them to leave him and his neighborhood alone. He wanted them to live, just not near him. Again, maybe semantics, I leave the distinction to greater intellects. But of greater importance, something these Lovecraft detractors refuse to comprehend, was that we have written proof that HPL RENOUNCED his xenophobic views towards the end of his life. Thanks to the friends he made, his moving to New York, and being exposed to other people he saw the error of his ways. And he recanted. And the people shitting on his grave do not care, saying that it didn't matter. It's cancel culture at it's finest, but since they can't cancel a dead man all they can do is destroy his works. Or at least attempt to, fruitlessly. The plus side of having 100 year old works of fiction is that they've been in circulation for so long is that plenty of people know the fiction and know when someone has made a shit interpretation of it.
Now, about that cat. See it wasn't Howard that named that cat, but rather his father. The cat was adopted by and named by him. And then his father was committed to an asylum and the cat passed into his son's and wife's care. And yes, the cat was called Niggerman, shocker. It was the 1880s.
"Lovecraft had no impact on anything". Stephen King, Gullermo del Toro, Ridley Scott, Neil Gaiman, Junji Ito, Kentaro Miura, Clive Barker, John Carpenter, Mike Mignola and H.R. Giger. All of these artists were influenced by Lovecraft and his horror. But sometimes his touch was a little less obvious, as he was friends with Robert E. Howard, the creator of Conan the Barbarian and Solomon Cane. He was a man who would very openly share ideas he had for his own work, but not having a great opinion of said work would pass it onto authors he believed could better implement his ideas. He was never a man to jealously protect his property and openly allowed ANYONE to add onto the mythos he unwittingly created. And that's a major reason how his mythos has engrossed so much of our culture over the last century, even when the property wasn't directly connected to the Cthulhu mythos. As to the assertion that we're all racists: even if I agreed Howard Philips Lovecraft was racist and even if it wasn't public knowledge that he became a better person late in life, I am capable of separating a creator from his work. I can read Shadow Over Innsmouth and Call of Cthulhu and The Dunwich Horror and agree that if you look deep enough there's some skeevy themes, but if you put that aside there's some damn good suspense and horror. For as fucked up as K-Pop is I don't see any of their stans calling out the industry while admitting they still like the music, it's just blanket denial. Yet shitheads with that kinda mindset wanna come after a man's legacy like he enslaved all of Africa all on his lonesome?
At the end of it all, Lovecraft's works will endure all of this mind numbing clout chasing. Eric Lang can do cringey, performative wokeness while being a massive hypocrite all he wants, Lovecraft will endure. But it will always bother me the amount of frothing, myopic hatred HPL gets. The fans have told these people how he reformed, how he shared his works with people of all walks of life, how he MARRIED A JEWISH WOMAN (and yes he had distasteful opinions of Jews too), but it's never enough. If Daryl Davis can change the minds of 200+ KKK members, then why can't we give people from the past the benefit of the doubt. Then again these are also the type of people that called Davis a racist and other assorted idiocy so...I dunno. Lovecraft was a flawed man, plagued by nightmares, coddled by a mother who slowly lost her mind over time and ended up in the same asylum as her husband (the one he died in too). And even through all of that he found a way to be a better man. He shared his works, he found a way to intimately connect with a woman (even though it sounds like it was very difficult for both of them), and towards the end of his life he admitted his ideas of genetic superiority were downright abhorrent. If we can't give even this man the benefit of the doubt, then your only hope of being accepted by the hate mob is if you're born a literal son of God.
And if you dont like HPL then fuck right off out of my fandom because we do not care about your lukewarm take about him being a racist and we need to rewrite his works. Piss off
Edit: Hoo boy this has gotten around and about, further than I thought it would've. I know it's a bit strange, but thank you to everyone for showing support. Didn't think anyone would read one of my long-winded rants, let alone think it worth of sharing. At first I was just a casual fan of Lovecraft like most people; Cthulhu here, "hey I get that"; a shoggoth there, "ah neato." But after seeing him get so much hatred it started to feel wrong. Then learning what a tragic man he was and seeing Twitter attempt to eviscerate this man...I had to put my thoughts somewhere and this was the only place I had a chance to get it out there and people actually see it. So thank ye kindly strange sea of friends
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danwhobrowses · 3 years
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20 AEW Dark and Elevation Regulars that AEW should sign
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Now I know, AEW has a very stacked roster, in fact I've considered writing an essay on the risk of AEW's growing roster being top-heavy
I mean we've barely scraped the potential of Brian Cage, Scorpio Sky, Wardlow, Sammy Guevara, TH2, Sonny Kiss, Matt Sydal, Proud and Powerful, Nick Comoroto, Will Hobbs, Serena Deeb (who I know is injured atm), and many more. But with Rampage oncoming maybe there is room for them.
But, we'll stick a pin in that for now, because tonight is AEW's 100th Episode of Dark. A big deal still considering it's one of AEW's 2 weekly youtube wrestling shows, and one of AEW's many Youtube weekly shows if you include vlogs such as BTE, SammysVlogs, Ethan Page's vlog and the AEW-promotional Countdown to and Outside the Ring with Lexy Nair segments and the Unrestricted Podcast. In the pandemic era, Dark became a home to several indie talents in need for work, some got signed but not all, so I'm gonna list 10 men's and 10 women's wrestlers who were regulars on Dark and Elevation who AEW can and should still sign
Note: I will not be including wrestlers who look set for regularity, so Wheeler Yuta, Jora Johl, Fuego and the Wingmen won't be on the list, as will any AEW Women's tournament entrants (Maki Itoh, Madi Wrenkowski, Nicole Savoy etc.). Danny Limelight and Konosuke Takeshita are also signed to MLW and DDT Pro just fyi
10 Men AEW should sign
The men's division is already stacked, and it has a lot of up and comers too, but there are still a few areas where AEW's Dark stalwarts have proven they can fill a void for.
Honorable mentions for: JDX, El Australiano, M'Badu, Jake St. Patrick, Brick Aldridge, Megabyte Ronnie, Suge 'Pineapple Pete' D and Vary Morales. Also Kidd Bandit, but he hasn't wrestled on Dark or Elevation so I couldn't add him in.
10. Marty Casaus Better known as Marty 'the Moth' Martinez from Lucha Underground, Marty trained with AEW after some time out with injury and made some appearances on Dark. As the Moth, Marty demonstrated his character work as a gross heel, but his size was also an asset to his disturbed and near-psychotic persona.
9. Dean Alexander An alumnus of the Nightmare Factory, Alexander has frequented on Dark and Elevation usually in tag action where he hasn't been able to get his dickhead persona across. He is your traditional cocky heel which in the Nightmare Factory showcases has led to his hilarious downfalls, even losing to Negative One in his multiple failures to win in the Main Event of these showcases. Frankly, this is what Baron Corbin should be like if you're gonna mock him, he's also very impressive in the ring.
8. Dillon McQueen Another Nightmare Factory alum, Dillon McQueen has also only been used for jobbing, but his character is actually great. The King of Queens, Dillon brims charisma that would be a winner for crowds, but he has a babyface fire to him as well, easily could be a rising talent with the right training.
7. Dan Barry To be honest, I like his Hawaiian Shirts. He has a lot of experience in the indies and can work in a similar way Colt Cabana works balancing serious and comedy wrestling, would just be pretty cool to see him more.
6. & 5. TNT (Terrence and Terrell Hughes) Sons of D-Von Dudley, TNT have had less appearances on AEW as of recent, which is a shame, because they can definitely be developed as some of the next gen tag teams the Acclaimed and Blonds have been. AEW haven't shied from legacy wrestlers in the past, and the duo definitely have potential.
4. Chandler Hopkins Chandler Hopkins has shown up to be squashed by the big men a lot, but somehow he also manages to eke out some strong entertainment and fluid wrestling in it. His match against Brian Cage is an effective example of this. Like Fuego, Chandler is definitely someone you can use on the undercard for some enhancement, maybe even push up once more character comes across.
3. Ryzin Ryzin has stuck with AEW for quite a while now, even having skits on BTE. The Unholy Father however never got a W on AEW, which is a shame because he has character and promo skills in hand. He could easily be a fit for Chaos Project as well or teamed with Abandon in a James Mitchell kinda role.
2. Carlie Bravo One of the first class alums of the Nightmare Factory, Carlie Bravo remains charismatic and athletic in his showings, he even had a great little pairing with Shawn Dean until Dean's signing, I'd love to see them bring that back - two Navy veterans tearing up the tag scene would be pretty awesome.
1. Baron Black Few have stayed the course during the pandemic era like Baron Black. Debuting in April and still yet to get his first win, he was one of the three touted stars by Cody on Sammy's vlog who he encouraged to be booked around the world because of his workrate and skill. If anyone has earned it that isn't named Fuego del Sol (or that other name Cody mentioned), it's Baron Black.
10 Women AEW should sign In contrast to the men's division, AEW's women's roster does look like it could use some buffing, for midcard and even building more stars.
Honorable mentions are plenty in this one, so just missing out are the following: Ashley D'Amboise, Leila Grey, Renee Michelle, Jazmin Allure, Savannah Evans, Willow Nightingale, the Renegade Twins, Holidead, Kenzie Paige, Jennacide and Brooke Havok (who I would guess will be signed once her leg recovers).
10. Ashley Vox With or without her Sea Stars tag partner, Delmi Exo, Ashley Vox has proven herself a frequent flier for AEW. Talented in singles and tag competition. She also has a strong rapport with many of AEW's current roster.
9. Alex Gracia The Pink Dream has been on ROH as of recent but remains a freelancer, her last appearance being a squash from Dr. Britt Baker DMD. AEW must've been high on Gracia at one point because they gave her a title shot on Dynamite. With experience in Shimmer and Stardom, Gracia would definitely be a worthy addition.
8. Tesha Price Another woman who AEW put on Dynamite rare times, Tesha proved herself to play face and heel during her time on Dark and Elevation. As a heel she showed a lot of fire especially against KiLynn King and Ryo Mizunami, the Psycho Sweetheart definitely has something she can give to the division - who are tbf lacking in heels right now.
7. Vertvixen I am not sure what it is about Vertvixen specifically, but whenever I see her I think she has the look, not to mention the athleticism to boot. Her triple threat on MPW against Jennacide and Jazmin Allure was a definite highlight as of recent.
6. Miranda Alize A former Mae Young Classic competitor, like Jennacide and Gracia she's recently been used by ROH, but she is definitely a confident wrestler and does not shy from the intergender matches either, having fought Laredo Kid and Danny Limelight. She's worked with many impressive wrestlers too, including an Impact Knockouts Title match against Jordynne Grace and matches against Deonna, Taya and Tessa.
5. Reka Tehaka The Samoan Savage may've debuted on AEW's first ever house show, but regular Dark and Elevation appearances have been met with positive reactions. Being partly trained by the Nightmare Factory, Tehaka has done well to establish herself despite only wrestling for a year and a half, she could definitely be a prospect.
4. Veda Scott Okay, so I cheated a little by saying no competitors, but I could not leave out Veda on this list. She has in-ring talent and intergender experience - tagging with her Speedball husband - but on AEW Dark and the Deadly Draw she proved herself excellent on commentary. A female voice in the booth even for just the women's matches would go a long way for the division and Veda's the perfect voice for it.
3. Dani Jordyn The Mean Girl is definitely someone you can call a regular on Dark and Elevation. She works hard and works with a lot of main roster talent, and I don't think I've seen her put on a bad match. So it would be nice to reward her with a contract.
2. Diamante It still baffles me actually that Diamante has yet to become All Elite. Deadly Draw winner and involved in a lot of the Elevation/Dark women's feuds, Diamante has a wealth of knowledge and experience under her belt. She's still popular with fans and can easily step back into her LAX days by pairing with the Inner Circle. Few unsigned talent have won as much as her too, I would say it's when rather than if, but when is taking a long ass time.
1. KiLynn King The three names Cody praised highly were Fuego, Baron Black and KiLynn King, so I think above all else they should be given contracts. In fact, I was surprised King wasn't on the Dark 100 card, by virtue that although King has shown up on Dynamite a few times, she has been on Dark and Elevation 41 times since debuting in May 2020, it was a shock that someone so regular wasn't on the card. King showed she could work as the bully heel but also as a charismatic babyface, even having a little faction brewing with Swole and Red Velvet as RSK, but when crowds came back we seemed to drop the potential of AEW's first all-women faction. King is over with fans...so long as you don't put her against someone as over as Thunder Rosa, and she has put on some lowkey bangers during her time on AEW, especially the one against Riho. Tall and powerful, but fun in the ring and outside the ring with clips of her in the crowd chanting and even vibing to Angelico's music. King would definitely be on the top of my list of AEW Dark regulars that deserve a contract.
I'm sure I might've missed some and opinions may differ, but I think these lot would definitely be able to fit into AEW effortlessly thanks to their time on Dark and Elevation. Many of whom could be used to build or become future champions themselves, and I hope still to see more of them beyond Dark 100.
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Tj and Cyrus have been friends for a long time, but will that change after life comes crashing down and impulsive decisions catch up to them? (Angst, Ambi, love notes, slow burn, aged up so they're all in high school, god tier ships, mental health, and like a whole bunch more ladies! Let’s get this angst.)
Chapter 9 Unresolved 
"What do you mean you saw them kiss!?" Cyrus had practically yelled, Nala jumped. Andi and Buffy had told Cyrus that they saw Jonah with Walker the entire night, practically attached to the hip. "He's been avoiding us a lot lately," Andi frowned and bit her lip. Buffy nodded and added, "Plus, Marty said there were rumors that Walker was dating a boy." "But, Jonah?" Cyrus said, slumped, "Jonah Hercules Beck is straight..." "No one's straight Cy," Andi said as they pointed between themselves and Cyrus, "we would know." "Yea, but..." Cyrus trailed off. He had totally believed Jonah Beck™ was 100% straight. But now that he knew he was with Walker, he felt a sudden urge of jealousy. He was the complicated one, he was the gay one, not perfect and popular Jonah Beck. Cyrus grimaced, his cheeks felt hot. "Cyrus?" Buffy said, "are you alright? It's OK to be jealous." "Yeah Cy, we all know you liked Jonah, it was pretty obvious," Andi said smiling, "but now that means you can focus on TJ! Who has a total massive humungo crush on you!"  "Guys, I don't know why I said I liked him, I think it's because he defended me. It's because he defended me right? I mean no guy will ever like me," Cyrus said as his friends gave him shocked looks. "You've got to be kidding right! You've got the toughest guy in all of Jefferson basically in love with you and you don't even see it? You're all he sees Cyrus! D'you think he'd punch his longest friend over anyone? Don't be so oblivious," Buffy huffed, clearly over Cyrus' lack of self-esteem. After that, their conversation shifted to Buffy complaining about all of the girls that flirted with Marty and Andi complaining about never being able to see Amber because of her work schedule. Cyrus stayed silent for most of it, thinking back to when he woke up in his own sweater. Any other jock would have thought it was embarrassing or dorky, but TJ had kept it. His heart skipped a beat. Maybe he did like TJ? But, at the same time, he thought about how Jonah was going out with Walker, and that made his skin burn. It was worse than when Andi dated him, at least then he thought he had no chance, but now? Now that Jonah was, bi? pan? questioning? Whatever, Cyrus was still bitter. He envied Walker. What did he have that Cyrus didn't? Art skills? He could take a class. He's an artist! He'd won an award for his screenplay. Whatever, he thought, I'll just make Jonah jealous, we'll see how he feels then.  When his friends had left after telling him that their "relationship intervention" was over, Cyrus received a text from TJ.  From Cool Basketball Guy!!!: Hey Cy, hope you got home safe and everything, I'm sorry I punched Reed... Are we still cool? 😬 To Cool Basketball Guy!!!: Yes :0 thanks again,,,,,sry i was a mess lol. see you tomorrow?  From Cool Basketball Guy!!!: Of course :) See you at lunch? To Cool Basketball Guy!!!: Yup WOOP WOOp 💥 Cyrus couldn't help but frown at his own text message. Ugh, I'm such a dork. He immediately texted Buffy and Andi for help.  To GHC👩🏻👩🏾‍🦱🌈❣️: Cyrus 💕🕍✨: I think I just said I liked him because he defended me, so I'm overthinking it right? Like we're friends, so nothing will happen PLUS HES A HET!!1 ANDIII😽: cyrus stop overthinking everything, this happened with me and amber too remember???? BufFY 😩🙆🏽‍♀️: HE LIKES YOU DONT BE A DUMBBASSSSSS, THE ENTIRE SCHOOL KNOWSSSSSSSS LOOK AT THE VIDEO I DMD YOU ON IG GODDAMN  ANDIII😽: Buffyyyy we weren't supposed to show him that.... BufFY 😩🙆🏽‍♀️: he needs to know Cyrus was never into social media, he only went on to comment encouraging things on his friend's new posts. He even had his notifications off, but once he opened the underused app, his screen was filled with dm's, new followers, and comments. He quickly scrolled through most of them. Many of them asked if he was Dating TJ?! One said Hi cy i know u dont know me but ur like really brave another said idk who ur kidding, tj is straight lmaooo and another said hey is it true? His heart raced, he suddenly needed to stand up. Where would people get such an idea? Sure, people must have seen TJ fighting with Reed, but he didn't think people would connect that to him. TJ was respected, Cyrus wasn't, why would Tj's actions be caused by Cyrus? Cyrus opened Buffy's direct message, which had been pushed to the bottom of his feed by the time he went looking for it. It was a dark video, but Cyrus managed to catch an out of focus TJ and Reed standing in Iris' living room. He turned up the volume,  "-somewhere else!"  He heard Tj say, he looked disheveled and sweaty. "GOD, What is with you. Do you like him or something?" Cyrus gasped at the same time as the camera person. Is this the source Buffy and Andi were talking about? "So we were right, you do like him! And now you're choosing him over us?! We've been friends longer than you have with that loser-" Cyrus' eyebrows raised as he saw TJ's fist come in contact with Reed's face. The rest of the video was a blur of curse words and drunk teenagers chanting "FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!"  Cyrus sat down on his bed, unable to comprehend what had just seen. Now he knew why he was getting so many notifications. He didn't know TJ could resort to violence like that. Hearing about a fight is much different than seeing that. But, he smiled. TJ had defended him, plus someone liked him! Him! Anxious, depressed, confused Cyrus Goodman who hated loud noises and sports. He felt light and airy, but most importantly he felt needed, more needed than ever. He had almost wanted to come out to his parents right then and there. They were all there, of course, sipping their wine about twenty feet away. He had quickly texted his friends a shocked cat gif and turned off his phone as he walked out of his room with newfound confidence.  "Hey Cy," one of his parents had called to him suspiciously, he didn't care which. TJ Kippen liked him and maybe he liked him back.  "Hello parentals," Cyrus said cheerily as he sat in an empty dining room seat, they were still having brunch, which had now turned into wine and ice cream. Cyrus picked at the leftover grapes and popped them into his mouth grinning.  "You look very happy today Cy, what did those girls do to you in there?" Norman joked. Cyrus shrugged and chucked uncomfortably.  "Whatever happened to that girlfriend of yours Cy? Ilene was her name?" a mom said. "No Sharron, it was Ivy," Todd said. "No, I'm pretty sure it's Isa," Leslie said. "Guys, you're all wrong. It's Iris. And we were never really together and I don't want to talk about this with my parents right now," Cyrus got up to leave, but one of his parents called out to him.  "Wait! Cy! Don't close us off so quickly. Just tell us, are there any new girls we should know about?" Shannon wiggled her eyebrows, Leslie nudged her side. Cyrus laughed a little too loud, "NO," he said, "no girls mom, never."  "Never?" Todd said, quizzically. Cyrus stopped. Did I just out myself through a joke? Am I really boo boo the fool?  "Cyrus?" His mom said, "do you want to tell us something we might already know? You know you can trust us." Cyrus thought about how his parents were trained in observing and analyzing. He knew that if he didn't answer, then they'd know he was hiding something if he answered too quickly they'd also know, and if he said anything at all they'd also know. He stood still instead, hoping that some being would impossibly teleport him to a different planet. Maybe Pluto? he thought Pluto is cute, and very far away from here.  "Cyrus?" His parents called again. Cyrus stared at the wall behind them, unable to speak. He gave one last chuckle and turned to walk a little too quickly to his room. He put on his headphones, played his playlist titled I'M A BIG FAT HOPELESS ROMANTIC and looked at the messages left on his phone. They ranged from encouraging Bitmojis to angry girls telling him to back off.  Oh my god, tomorrow is going to be hell. Cyrus spent the rest of the day nervously doing his homework in anticipation of tomorrow. Normally, he'd text TJ whenever he was nervous, but now that he was the reason for his anxiety, he stuck to his history notes. He had come out of his room only when he knew half of his parents were gone. Monday morning was relatively quiet, his parents had decided to not ask him about what had happened yesterday, which he was eternally grateful for. However, that was not the root of all of his worry.  Once he got to school, Cyrus immediately knew something was different. For the first time in his life, people his age noticed him. Everyone's eyes followed him down the hall, to and from his classes, and even during the peak hallway traffic. Thankfully, he had Buffy and Andi the entire day to protect him. Sure, they could protect him from direct attack, but he could still see kids whispering and pointing at him.  During lunch, Andi, Buffy, and Cyrus sat at their usual spot.  "Okay you guys, things are different now, be prepared." Buffy had warned them both. Cyrus felt uneasy, he knew something was about to happen, but he didn't know what. They had been discussing how to address Jonah's new boyfriend without being overbearing. They decided to not bring it up.  Just then, Marty and Amber walked up to the table and sat next to their respective partners, leaving Cyrus alone with his muffin for the millionth time. He thought about texting TJ, but he didn't know what to say to him.  "Cyrus!" Amber said, "I'm glad you're feeling better. TJ should be here soon."  Suddenly, the cafeteria doors opened and in came Jonah holding hands with Walker. Cyrus made a fist. They sat down a little too happily, Cyrus looked down at his tray. He felt tears pool in his eyes.  "Hello there," Buffy eyed them. Cyrus tentatively looked over at Jonah who seemed grounded. There was something different about him as if a light he didn't know existed had been turned on. He watched as Jonah talked to his friends, he didn't listen to what they were saying, he was too busy looking at how Jonah looked at Walker every so often just to smile at him. Cyrus wanted that. He wanted someone who understood him, someone who grounded him in reality, someone that didn't make him feel so lost.  "So," he heard Jonah say in his direction, "I heard that TJ likes you. I thought you guys were already together?" Cyrus thought he heard a twinge of jealousy in his voice, but it might have been his imagination.  Cyrus suddenly couldn't handle it anymore, from the stares to the questions, to gently coming out to his parents, it was too much. He silently stood up. His friends eyed him. "I need," Cyrus started but couldn't seem to verbalize his thoughts. What did he need? Something, he needed something. "Something," he said, before quietly packing his things and walking towards the cafeteria exit. Before he could exit, he saw TJ walk in. Cyrus saw the confidence oozing out of him, his stomach churned.  "Hey," TJ smiled at him, "Where are you headed? Lunch just started." "Oh, I was going to uh-" Cyrus looked up at Tj, Did his face get cuter? "I uh, was going to go sit with Andi and Buffy and them," he looked for an escape, but TJ was already turning him back around to join his friends.  "Come on then silly, they're the other way," TJ grinned. Cyrus hid behind TJ for most of the walk back to the table, the whispers they were getting were becoming unbearable, he wanted to cry. He couldn't make himself look his friends in the eyes when he sat back down. "Is this the something you needed?" Marty chuckled, Buffy jabbed him with her elbow. Cyrus fiddled with a broken spork as his friends continued talking about Jefferson gossip. Tj had inched himself closer to Cyrus, he let him. He hadn't noticed how different he felt with TJ around. How much easier living seemed to be. Before he knew it, he and TJ were shoulder to shoulder, leg to leg. He still couldn't bring himself to look at his friends, but they were used to his daily mini meltdowns. TJ started to laugh at something Walker had said, Cyrus grinned slightly He fits in so well. He saw Tj look down at him worried, he gently pried the spork out of his hands, it had started to draw blood. Cyrus hadn't noticed.    "What's wrong? Do you want to leave?" Tj softly asked him. Cyrus gave a small nod, his heart lurched. There were too many eyes on him.  Tj quickly packed away his things and gave his friends an excuse. Before walking away, Cyrus saw Jonah frown at them.  Cyrus didn't know where Tj was taking him, but he didn't really care. In the hallway, Cyrus thought he heard a noise. Once they rounded the corner, he saw Reed, Lester, and a couple other boys he didn't know. He gulped. TJ moved in front of him. "AYYYY look who it is!" Reed said, throwing his arms up.  "Leave me alone Reed," TJ said, trying to walk through.  "Bro, we're still bros. I forgive you for the other night. I know you were drunk and shit." Reed leaned in closer and said something to TJ that Cyrus couldn't hear, but made TJ look back at him.  "Dude, leave him alone," Lester said, pushing on Reed's shoulder.  "Hey, I just want to know what we're all thinking. So Teej, what is it? Are you still choosing this dork over your bros?" Reed said. The rest of the gang looked apprehensive, they didn't care enough to cause a scene. "Dude, just leave it," One boy said worried.  "Shut up," TJ said quietly, "Just shut up." Cyrus saw TJ ball his fists and tense up. Lester moved towards Tj, but Reed stopped him with his arm.  "Tell us," Reed said.  TJ stayed still. "Teej-" Reed had said before Cyrus heard bodies hit the floor. He closed his eyes. There was yelling, sneakers hitting the floor, and eventually, he heard the voices of teachers. Someone pushed him against the wall, someone else called his name, someone else touched his hair. He didn't want to open his eyes. 
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What is the difference between a car registration and an insurance?
What is the difference between a car registration and an insurance?
I always mix the 2 up for some reason. I know that insurance is to insure the car for any damages done to the other vehicle or your own vehincle, but what is a registration for. Is it to verify the owner of the vehicle. Any sort of help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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I always mix the 2 up for some reason. I know that insurance is to insure the car for any damages done to the other vehicle or your own vehincle, but what is a registration for. Is it to verify the owner of the vehicle. Any sort of help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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What are the fines and penalties of driving without a license or insurance in California?
What are the fines and penalties of driving without a license or insurance in California?
Under 18 with permit only. Also loud music. Was only driven in parking lot when pulled over. Car in another persons name. Are there any fines or penalties for car owner?
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Under 18 with permit only. Also loud music. Was only driven in parking lot when pulled over. Car in another persons name. Are there any fines or penalties for car owner?
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22 Experts Debunk Ketogenic, Paleo, & Low-Carb Diets
Anyone considering the Paleo or Ketogenic diet fads should read this post.
I share with you 22 quotes by nutrition experts I’ve interviewed in the past year, about the current fad, the “Ketogenic Diet.”
Any honest review of the body of longitudinal evidence–now over 10,000 published studies strong–will conclude that Americans are eating too little fiber and nutrients (found in whole-food plant foods of all kinds) and too many animal proteins and processed food.1
The longest-living and most disease-proof people around the world vary, in the types of foods they eat, but virtually all of them eat a 90 to 100 percent plant-based, whole foods diet.2
Any weight-loss diet will “work”–for weight loss. Keto, Paleo, Atkins, low fat, low carb, Weight Watchers, South Beach, the Potato Diet. Any of them.
But some of them will decrease your disease risk as well–and some of them may actually increase it.
When you eliminate classes of macro-nutrients (proteins, fats, and carbs), or classes of foods, you’re going to lose weight.
Most diets are just cleverly disguised calorie-restriction plans anyway, especially Atkins and Keto. (Which are virtually the same thing.)
But why would you do a diet for weight loss, that is bad for your long-term health?
You could adopt a diet that is sustainable, that you can do for the rest of your life, that leads you to your ideal weight, but also minimizes your disease risk.
I’ve been watching the Ketogenic and Paleo diets with concern. If you want to study in more depth very readable literature reviews about why virtually everything that is known about nutrition is violated by the “Keto” diet, see the References section below.
Each book I link you to (by Campbell, Whitten/Smith, Greger, Fuhrman, and Robbins) has extensive bibliographies of the published studies on diet, all of which point to a highly plant-based diet being best.
Cumulatively, these studies number in the thousands, and the results are very consistent, even if diet fads swing between the poles and usually favor the foods that Americans want to eat (e.g. animal products).
(Americans, after all, eat more animal products than virtually any large society in the history of the world.)
But in today’s blog post, I’ve taken excerpts from many podcast episodes I’ve done in the past year, with some of the most well known names in nutrition.
With “ketogenic diet” the most searched term on the internet in 2017, I felt it was important to bring together some consensus, so I’ve asked each of my  many credentialed podcast guests what they think of “Keto.”
Some of the quotes aren’t directly related to the ketogenic diet, but rather, to one of the issues related to it. Such as whether legumes and grains are good for you, or whether carbohydrates are to be feared.
These are MD’s, NMD’s, and PhD’s, and some well known fitness pros and authors, all highly regarded in the field of health and wellness. I asked each of them about the evidence, and their opinion, on the high-fat and high-protein diets.
You are about to read some shocking statements about Paleo and Keto, by these author-researchers:
Yale’s David Katz, MD; John Robbins; Joel Fuhrman, M.D.; Alan Christianson, N.M.D.; John Douillard, D.C., Valter Longo, PhD; Chris Wark; Ari Whitten and Wade Smith, M.D.; Ben Greenfield; Michael Greger, M.D.; Stephen Lin, DMD; Joel Kahn, M.D.; Derek Henry; Terry Tillaart, PhD; Harry Massey; Stephen Masley, M.D., Caldwell Esselstyn, M.D.; John McDougall, M.D., Eric Zielinski, D.C., The Biggest Loser’s Bob Harper, and (yours truly) Robyn Openshaw.
I think you will find these comments by the world’s mostly highly credentialed and qualified nutrition experts very interesting, as you consider which diet trends are worth your time, and which aren’t:
Note: Some quotes have been edited for length and clarity.
Valter Longo, PhD
From my podcast interview with Dr. Longo, Episode 74:
I have to show that this [plant-based Longevity Diet] works using multiple pillars of science and medicine. One of the pillars of evidence [I consider] is epidemiology studies. So, what if you’re talking about, for example, a high meat, high protein, high fat, animal fat diet.
Is this high animal fat, animal protein diet and low sugar the successful one, in large populations?
For example: a large study by Harvard looking at low-carb, high-protein, high-fat diets showed a very clear increase overall in mortality including an increase in cardiovascular mortality and an increase in mortality from cancer. Epidemiology studies a large population, [which is] very important.3
Another “pillar” of evidence I consider is clinical studies. What if you take a group and you feed it high animal protein, high fat–and you take another group and you feed it a control diet? How do they do?
For example, you’ll see that those who eat a high protein diet will have a high level of IGF-1—a risk factor or a marker for cancer and also aging, etc. In the clinical level, there’s not much data about this, but certainly, it’s a very important pillar.
The third pillar is basic research focused on longevity. You need to look at, say, what about mice and other organisms that have been tested, what if they’re fed a high protein diet, for example, versus a low protein diet?
Do they do better? Well, it turns out that, not surprisingly, if they’re fed a low protein diet, they live longer and healthier.
The fourth pillar is centenarians in populations around the world that have record longevity, a very important pillar. Why is that? Well, because you could do some studies and you could, by mistake and coincidence, get a lot of opinions about something that has been based on a short study and maybe even multiple pillars will support it.
Then if you go look at the Okinawans, the people in Loma Linda, California, the people in Sardinia, Calabria, Icaria, Greece–the ones that have regular longevity–and you ask the question, did they have a high protein diet, for example–well, none of them do.
Everything in these four pillars of evidence now is supporting a low protein, mostly vegan–maybe some fish–diet.
The following are excerpts from Dr. Longo’s book: The Longevity Diet. 2018.4
In line with our previous protein study, a follow-up study of the same group followed by Harvard University, in which I acted as a co-author, showed that consumption of high levels of animal (but not plant-based) proteins was associated with increased mortality from cardiovascular disease.
A similar study of 40,000 men suggests that a low-carb, high-animal protein diet is associated with a twofold increase in diabetes, a finding also consistent with our discovery in the six-thousand-person protein study.
Mice on a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet lived the shortest and the worst health, despite the effect of the diet on weight loss.
In our recent study, we showed that simply by lowering protein intake in mice, we can reduce the incidence of melanoma and breast cancer. Even after tumors were established, their rate of growth slowed in the presence of reduced protein intake.
Valter Longo, PhD is the Edna Jones Professor in Gerontology and Professor in Biological Science as well as the Director of the USC Longevity Institute. He is the founder of a non-profit organization  promoting scientific and medical projects in low-cost, integrative therapies for the prevention and treatment of major diseases. He is the author of the international bestseller, The Longevity Diet, which features the 5-day “fasting mimicking diet” and reviews evidence of its success in disease prevention and weight loss.
Chris Wark
From my podcast interview with Chris, Episode 38:
The Paleo Diet is an American fad. It is not rooted in science. It’s rooted in hype, and it’s rooted in sort of a mythology that our caveman ancestors ate a diet that was mostly meat, and maybe some root vegetables, and leafy greens, and nuts, and seeds. [It’s mythology] that they didn’t eat any carbohydrates.
If you adopt a Paleo Diet … and I will say the principles, you know, eating clean, grass fed, organically raised, pasture raised type meat and wild caught, wild killed meat, those principles, sure. That is a better quality of animal product than your commercially raised beef, and chicken, and pork, and stuff like that. Right?
Many Paleo advocates also advocate for eating whole foods and not processed food. That’s great advice. I totally agree.
But they’re very down on fruit, and they’re very down on starchy vegetables, because there’s just this idea that’s been propagated and regurgitated that our paleolithic caveman ancestors didn’t eat that stuff. Well, the reality is different, if you actually look at the science.
There’s a fantastic spread in Scientific American, where they investigate what is the real paleolithic diet. What they found is that the actual leading paleontologists, who are, by the way, not the authors of any Paleo Diet books–those [diet-book] guys are not actual scientists, they may do a little research, but they’re not actual paleontologists….
…the leading paleontologists around the world, when they investigate the remains, the bodies that have been pulled out of the Earth from prehistoric man and paleolithic peoples, guess what they find in their teeth? They find starchy plant matter in their teeth and digestive tracts, so we know they ate lots of starchy vegetables, and they ate very little animal products.
What we have now is we have this movement, and the Paleo Diet is really, you could actually just call it the Meat Lover’s Diet. That’s what it is. It’s branded as this healthy, cutting edge thing, but it’s really just a diet for people that love to eat meat and want to justify it as it’s the latest, greatest, healthy way to be, like our ancestors.
There’s one guy, I won’t name any names, but he has this painful, painful slogan, and I read an article he wrote about all the virtues of the Paleo Diet. One of his, you know, top reasons was, and I quote: “It worked for your ancestors, and it’ll work for you too.”
They weren’t eating bacon and butter, and they definitely weren’t drinking coffee. It seems like every Paleo [and Keto] person I know eats tons of bacon, butter, and drinks a lot of coffee. The reason they drink a lot of coffee is because their protein-heavy diet is such an energy depleting diet that they need coffee just to have normal energy level throughout the day, which is crazy, because it takes a lot more energy to digest animal protein.
It’s highly thermogenic, which is why it actually burns calories, why you lose weight eating a high protein diet, because your body actually has to use more energy to break this stuff down to convert it into energy.
There’s an energy cycle in digestion, so you eat food for energy, but then it takes energy to break it down to convert it into a form [you can use]. In other words, protein is converted into glucose in your liver. Anyway, the point is, it makes you feel sluggish and tired all the time when you eat tons of protein.
Even if we didn’t have research on paleolithic man, and we didn’t know what kind of foods they were eating, which was plant foods predominantly, and then hunting and killing when they could.
Even if we didn’t have that science, what we do have is many, many, many studies from around the world on the healthiest, longest living people on Earth.
These are people living today and people that have been alive in the last hundred years that researchers and scientists have been able to actually go and live with, and study, and track their disease rates, and take their blood.
We know that the healthiest, longest living people with the lowest rates of disease eat a diet that’s 95% plant based, on average–and they eat tons of starchy vegetables.
In fact, their main source of calories comes from starches, like rice, beans, corn, potatoes, grains, of course fruit. And they eat very little meat and dairy–like I said, less than 5% of their diet.
That can equate to eating meat a few times a week to a few times a month, and in some cases a few times a year, depending on their poverty level.
The healthiest, longest-living people with the lowest rates of western diseases, like cancer, heart disease, and diabetes, actually are the poorest people in India, Africa, China, South America, Southeast Asia, in all of these undeveloped countries.
There’s several factors in animal foods that fuel cancer growth. Number one is animal protein raises IGF-1, which is insulin-like growth factor. That’s a hormonal response in the body that is like cancer “rocket fuel.”
Animal protein raises methionine, which is an amino acid that cancer cells are dependent on to survive, and then animal foods are high in animal fat. Animal fat is high in palmitic acid, and palmitic acid also fuels cancer growth.
Palmitic acid is also in palm oil, so processed, refined, commercially produced oils and animal fat fuel cancer growth as well, so it’s animal protein and animal fat.
Now, I’ll just say, you mentioned the Keto Diet. So, the Ketogenic Diet is in a whole class of its own. It’s just an experimental diet that is a high-fat diet, so it’s very high fat, a moderate amount of protein, and very, very low in carbs.
Of course, this diet will also cause you to lose weight….but there’s no population anywhere in the world that lives “in ketosis.”
Ketosis is a survival mechanism triggered in the body when you go without food. Let’s just say you lived hundreds of years ago and you grew your own food and raised livestock. Well, in the winter, you know, maybe you were a hunter. All the animals are hibernating.
You can’t grow any food, and so there are extended periods of time where you don’t have any food to eat, and so you might go for a day, or two, or three days, or even a week, or maybe even a few weeks where you had very little food.
Ketosis is a process where your body burns fat for energy, so it burns stored fat, converts it to ketones, which your body can use as fuel, instead of glucose, and it burns those and keeps you alive. It’s a wonderful, brilliant, intelligently designed, backup survival mode that your body kicks into when you’re trying to survive–and fasting’s very beneficial.
I’m a huge advocate of fasting. I know you do it periodically, too, Robyn, for a week or two at a time. You know, three to five days on water is a very powerful fast, but the point is there’s a segment of the scientific community and fad-diet community that has taken this idea of ketosis, which Atkins really popularized, and really taken it farther than he ever did.
And they’re encouraging people to just stay in ketosis, to eat this high-fat diet just for the rest of their life, essentially, and [they promote] that it’s healthy, that it’s good for them, but there’s no precedent anywhere in the world.
There’s no population [who has done this). Not even the Eskimos, who did eat a lot of fat, were in ketosis.
It’s a highly experimental diet. A lot of people have made claims that it’s the best diet for cancer patients, and there’s virtually no evidence of that, either. It’s all sort of theoretical, hypothetical speculation that because cancer cells feed on glucose, that if you convert to a diet that has no glucose in it and you’re eating all fat, that the ketone bodies, cancer cells have a hard time metabolizing fat, and you’ll survive, you’ll get better.
But we actually know there’s studies that tumors feed on fat–like I mentioned palmitic acid. Tumor cells have fat receptors, and they use those fat receptors to feed on fat and to metastasize.
Again, I could talk about this at length, but you can tell I’m not a fan of the Paleo Diet or the Ketogenic Diet. I look around the world at the healthy populations with low rates of cancer, and heart disease, and diabetes, and that’s the diet we want to imitate.
Let’s just go ahead, instead of experimenting with something that’s never been proven, why don’t we just imitate what’s working for people?
Another Chris Wark quote from the Keto & Paleo Manifesto:
“The ketogenic diet is like fasting, only with none of the health benefits.”
Chris Wark is an author, speaker and health coach. He was diagnosed with stage 3 colon cancer at the age of 26, 14 years ago. After surgery, he chose nutrition and natural therapies to heal himself and refused chemotherapy. He inspires people to take control of their health and reverse disease with a radical transformation of their diet and lifestyle. His book, Chris Beat Cancer, is available to pre-order on Amazon.
Dr. Joel Fuhrman, M.D.
From my podcast with Dr. Fuhrman, Episode 37:
Well, look, there’s always going to be those people coming up with their own independent ideas and hypotheses to make themselves stand out in some different way to appeal to the masses with some fad or gimmick or trick. That’s going to be a passing fad [but] never going to hold.
There was the “eat for your body type” diet. That was just made-up nonsense and eventually lost favor. The Atkins Diet lost favor for a while because there were so many long-term studies showing how dangerous it was to eat so much animal products–with the evidence being hard endpoints like death and cancer rates. Now we have a resurgence of that way of thinking.
After a while it comes back in [vogue], but of course, this idea that lectins and beans and phytates in nuts and seeds and vegetables are somewhat anti-nutritious or life-span shortening is another gimmick that doesn’t hold, that doesn’t have any scientific validity to it.
Let me just expound on that a little bit. First of all, the idea that lectins and beans were bad and have anti-nutrients stemmed from the paleo movement because they were advocating meat-heavy diets.
They wanted people not to eat grains and beans because they didn’t think that primitive people ate beans. That’s okay. It’s okay to have a hypothesis. I have nothing wrong with people taking a guess on what they think might work and have a reason why they are coming to that idea.
Then you have to say, “Where’s the evidence for that? What if we test it?” What if you test it, not just short term for a year or two, but what if we put people on beans, lots of beans, long term for 20 years or more. What if we take beans away and give them more meat, long term, for years.
The point is that we have to give more credence to studies that follow thousands of people for 20 years or more. We have to give less credence to ideas that follow people for a year or two.
In other words, we could feed people nothing but Twinkies or chocolate chip cookies and they go on just a mono-diet of just Twinkies.
They could do better because their triglycerides could go down. They could lose weight because they’re so sick of eating Twinkies they [don’t eat very much]. But if you followed people on a diet of just Twinkies or chocolate chip cookies for 20 years, you’d see a lot of needless cancers, lot of throat cancers, a lot of breast cancers, a lot of cardiac arrhythmia, and a lot of death.
In other words, a hard endpoint is death, heart attack, cancer. A soft endpoint might be weight loss, and triglycerides go down.
We look at large studies over many years, looking at hard endpoints, and we see two things.
Number one, that more beans leads to longer life. If you look at the nurses’ health study and other studies like that, that follow women over many years seeing their incidence of breast cancer and death from breast cancer, we see always that the women who eat the most beans have the lowest rates of breast cancer and the highest longevity, the longest life span.
A study published of 129,000 people that went on for more than 20 years, published in a 2010 issue of Annals of Internal Medicine, showed that those people who ate more animal products, versus less, had a 43% increased risk of death.3
Every long-term study with large numbers of people show increased death rate with higher consumption of animal product, animal protein, and lower death rate, lower cancer rate, and longer life with higher consumption of beans and of course with vegetables that are so-called “high in phytates,” and the same thing with nuts and seeds.
Matter of fact, the lectins and the phytates that supposedly bind nutrients actually have anti-cancer effects in themselves. They actually bind mercury, lead, and toxic metals as well. They prevent excess nutrients like copper and iron from passing through the body.
If you’re going to eat some meat, if you’re eating beans with it, it mitigates some of the damage from the excess iron in meat that can cause damage to the body. Even eating more beans makes the meat less toxic.
Another quote from Dr. Joel Fuhrman is from The Keto/Paleo Manifesto:
There are many variations of the ketogenic diet, and some are more dangerous than others.  One thing known without question is that the long-term safety of these diets is unknown, because studies would have to follow thousands of people for decades into their 70s and 80s to truly ascertain the true risks.
What we do know with certainty from such long-term studies is that as the proportion of products from animal products increase in the diet, so does the death rate from cancer and heart disease.
In other words, the quality and long-term safety of a diet can be determined by the ratio of ‘produce’ calories to ‘animal product’ calories. We also know that diets richer in antioxidants and phytochemicals–and with a broad variety of such anti-cancer immune-supporting substances–are critical to prevent later-life cancers.
The ketogenic diet generally uses high amounts of oils, which do not contain a significant micronutrient content as a source of calories, thus diluting the micronutrient density of the diet.
In summary, it is not the diet best designed to push the envelope of human longevity, though a ketogenic diet, if well designed, may not be as dangerous as the highly processed-food SAD diet, which contains dangerous ingredients such as white flour, sugar, fried foods, soda and junk food.
Joel Fuhrman, M.D. is a six-time New York Times bestselling author and internationally recognized expert on nutrition and natural healing, who specializes in preventing and reversing disease through nutritional methods. His books include Eat to Live, The End of Heart Disease, The End of Diabetes, and Disease-Proof Your Child. He is currently the president of the Nutritional Research Foundation.
Dr. Michael Greger, M.D.
From my podcast interview with Dr. Greger, Episode 36:
Yeah, they’re all like zombie diets. They’re unkillable, they come back. Atkins was first published in the early ’70s and then of course fell out of favor until they return it from the dead and then it’s the new Atkins diet. By now we’re on the new-new-new Atkins diet [the Ketogenic Diet].
Basically, people love hearing good news about their bad habits. Tell people to eat bacon and butter sells a lot of magazines, sells a lot of books, but it sells the public short. It’s a classic tobacco-industry tactic, selling confusion, muddying the waters in the hopes that people just throw up their hands and eat whatever’s put in front of them.
The reality is there’s a remarkable consistency in the nutrition science literature that we should boost our intake of healthy plant foods like fruits and vegetables, limit our intake of animal foods and processed foods.
The public needs and deserves to know about the overwhelming global consensus regarding the core elements of healthy living.
Probably the farthest from that would be something like an Atkins diet, low-carb diet. Basically, as far as diets shift away from eating whole plant foods would be on the spectrum of worse versus better diet.
For example, a Mediterranean diet, very much vegetable-centric, very much closer to what an ideal diet might look like, whereas even something like a Paleo diet–look, the paleo diet, any diet that gets people to stop eating donuts is going to improve the health of the American public.
If you actually survey Paleo eaters, people that claim they’re eating “Paleo,” the biggest thing that differentiates their diet from the standard American diet is actually vegetable consumption.
They claim to eat more, significantly more, vegetables. If your definition of Paleo diet is “eat lots more vegetables,” fantastic. Unfortunately, many people just use that “Paleo” self-identity to just go out and eat garbage.
Basically, in fact there’s an index, there’s a dietary quality index that I talk about. I actually did a video about it. There’s all sorts of ways you can measure healthy eating, Harvard has one, you can measure concordance with the federal dietary guidelines.
This one is probably my favorite, and basically what it is, is just what percent of your diet is whole plant foods? For example, in the United States about 55% of our diet is processed junk and about 40% is animal protein, so that takes it down to about less than 10% actually whole plant foods, fruits and vegetables, beans, whole grains, legumes, that kind of thing.
There’s been a number of studies that have actually looked at that index and looked at breast cancer survival, for example, or diabetes, [and more].5
Basically, the greater percentage in your diet of whole plant foods the healthier you are, the lower your risk of chronic disease.
Michael Greger, M.D. is a physician, international speaker and New York Times bestselling author of the book How Not to Die. His non-profit NutritionFacts.org is a science-based, non-commercial website that provides daily videos and articles on the latest discoveries in nutrition.
Dr. Alan Christianson, N.M.D.
From my podcast interview with Dr. Christianson, Episode 50:
You talked before in the intro about nutrition fads. Sadly, that’s so much of the patterns in nutrition. It’s no more logical than the trends in fashion.
It’s like, what did we do last year? Well, that didn’t work. We need to go further the opposite way. Now we’re in this phase of really thinking about just going extreme low carb, and focusing on high fat diets, and high animal-food diets.
The evidence really has never flip-flopped back or forth or changed that radically, but trends and habits really have.
The tough part is that we’re all so very subject to placebos, to hoping something will work and maybe feeling the benefits from it. Or, the other thing that can help it a lot is that so many people’s diets are just so processed that any change they make [skews the conclusion].
They could change, say, ten parts of their diet and maybe three or four of those changes were really helpful, and maybe two or three were indifferent, and a few might have even been harmful–but they may have come out better because of the few good things they did do.
There’s a lot of ways in which someone can change a diet and have partial benefit, and feel some improvements from that.
There’s strong data about the importance and the benefit of having plant foods in the diet. Vegetables, fruits, legumes, intact whole grains. These things are so well documented.
[About Paleolithic Man] The bulk of our calories [in the Paleolithic era] would have come from plants. The extent that we had animal foods, they were a much smaller portion of our calories; and they were pretty lean and gamey foods, and probably mostly from the ocean.
This quote from Dr. Christianson challenges the entire foundation of the ketogenic diet, and is from a previous blog post that we published:
The ketogenic diet is a legitimate tool for helping reduce seizures among epileptic children who did not respond to medication. We may learn more in the coming years about benefits to other conditions, but most think of it as an easy path to weight loss.
The underlying assumption people make is that the ketogenic diet makes them better at burning fat. Sadly, it does the exact opposite, and the confusion comes about from using the phrase ‘burning fat’ in two different contexts.
Using fat for fuel is called beta-oxidation. Breaking down body fat is called lipolysis. Ketosis is the state in which your liver cannot burn fat for fuel. It can burn fat for fuel only when carbohydrate and protein are also present.
A ketogenic diet only leads to lipolysis when it contains fewer calories than is needed. This is true of any diet. When a ketogenic diet has more calories than is needed, the extra dietary fat that is initially converted to ketones gets turned into triglycerides and stored as body fat.
In a controlled human study comparing a ketogenic diet against a high carb, high-sugar diet with the same number of calories, the high-carb diet led to more fat loss than the ketogenic diet.
Besides the lack of efficacy for weight loss, the ketogenic diet has risks to consider for those seeking to improve their health. The evidence supporting the benefits of dietary fiber, vitamins, and minerals, is undeniable. The ketogenic diet is devoid of fiber, and low in vitamins and minerals.
Along with a myriad of side effects like fatigue, diarrhea, muscle cramps, and headaches, people on ketogenic diets also run the risks of:
hypothyroidism
impaired athletic performance
“We may find more medical applications of the ketogenic diet and more ways to mitigate some of the inherent risks and deficiencies it creates. However, ketones are not the ‘preferred’ source of fuel for the human body, nor are they effective hacks for weight loss.
Alan Christianson, N.M.D. is a New York Times bestselling author and physician who specializes in natural endocrinology. He founded the Endocrine Association of Naturopathic Physicians and formulated several supplements designed to reset and establish hormonal balance. He is the author of several books including The Metabolism Reset Diet, The Adrenal Reset Diet, and Integrative Health.
Bob Harper
Quotes from his book The Super Carb Diet, 2017.16
Without the right number of carbs, a by-product will enter the body. This by-product is known as ketones.
When your body creates ketones, you run the risk of ketosis. I like to think of ketosis as the body’s way of telling you something ain’t right.
Now, you may have heard of a diet that is quite literally called the Ketogenic Diet. It’s for people who want their body to enter ketosis….however, it comes at the price of the loss of good complex carbohydrates and a whole lot of other negatives.
Urine sticks are even involved. Unless I’m pregnant, I don’t want to be peeing on a stick.
Ever talk to someone on the ketogenic diet? You can tell right away because their breath is often bad.
One type of ketone that is produced is called acetone. Acetone comes out in the breath (and urine), and it smells rotten. I’m talking dragon-breath bad.
I want us to use what the body was MEANT to use for fuel, and that includes carbohydrates and the right mix of nutrients.
Bob Harper is well-known as the host and personal trainer on the television series, The Biggest Loser. His life changed dramatically following a massive heart attack on February 12, 2017. He’s now intent on spreading the lessons he learned regarding diet and, particularly, carbohydrates. His many books include The Skinny Rules, Jumpstart to Skinny, Skinny Habits, Skinny Meals, and Are You Ready.
Ari Whitten and Wade Smith, M.D.
Quotes from their book The Low Carb Myth, 2015.6
The Carbohydrate Theory of Obesity [an attempt to blame fat gain on carbohydrates and sugars] is based on numerous scientific inaccuracies, omissions of data, and countless instances of data cherry-picking.
….the notion of everyone eating diets of essentially nothing but fat and protein with only a tiny amount of carbohydrate as a widespread initiative to combat obesity is laughable, since any dietary pattern so extreme as to jettison an entire macronutrient (and simultaneously limit another one) is simply unsustainable for the majority of people.
Ari Whitten and Wade Smith, M.D. are authors of The Low Carb Myth, a book that reveals the truth about low-carb diets and what is driving the obesity and diabetic epidemics. Wade Smith, M.D. is an Orthopedic Trauma Surgeon at the Swedish Medical Center in Englewood, Colorado and a Professor of Orthopedic Surgery at the University of Colorado, School of Medicine. Ari Whitten is a fat loss and metabolism specialist with a B.S. from SDSU in Exercise Science and two advanced certifications from the National Academy of Sports Medicine.
Joel Kahn, M.D.
Cardiologist and Wayne State Clinical Professor of Medicine, quoted in The Keto/Paleo Manifesto:
While ketogenic diets prompt the production of ketone bodies as fuel and are of proven value in rare cases of refractory epilepsy, they are also associated with data in several studies suggesting they boost long term risk of premature death. I would not advise the daily use of a long term ketogenic strategy based on animal product consumption.7
Joel Kahn, M.D. is one of the world’s top holistic cardiologists who believes that plant-based nutrition is the most powerful source of preventative medicine on earth. He lectures throughout the country on the health benefits of a plant-based anti-aging diet. His books include Your Whole Heart Solution and The Plant-Based Solution.
Caldwell Esselstyn, M.D.
From my podcast interview with Dr. Esselstyn, Episode 102:
If you look over the scientific literature, to my knowledge, there has only been one diet that has ever halted, arrested and reversed patients who are seriously ill with cardiovascular disease, and that is whole foods, plant-based nutrition.
I am totally unaware of a single study of the Ketogenic diet where it has been reviewed in a peer reviewed process, where they have taken patients who were seriously ill with demonstrable cardiovascular disease and have been able to show the halting and the reversal of that disease.
Caldwell Esselstyn, M.D. directs the cardiovascular prevention and reversal program at The Cleveland Clinic Wellness Institute. His many publications include the book Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease, based on his benchmark research on reversing coronary artery disease in the seriously ill,  in one of the longest longitudinal studies of its type.
Harry Massey, Filmmaker
Quote from Keto/Paleo Manifesto:
“I went on the ketogenic diet, I felt like crap, and three months later I was diabetic.”
Harry Massey is a writer, director and bioenergetic expert. He directed the full-length documentary film Choice Point and wrote the book by the same name. His mission is to inspire people to transform themselves and to develop paradigm-changing technology such as the NES Health. He is the executive producer and co-writer of the documentary, The Living Matrix: A New Science of Healing.
David Katz, M.D.
From my podcast interview with Dr. Katz, Episode 90:
I think the public really needs to finally clue in to the idea that confusion about diet is enormously profitable for a lot of industries and individuals, and to reject this nonsense once and for all.
Again, if all of the major epidemiologic studies show that the healthiest, longest-lived populations around the world routinely eat whole grains, then why are we debating whether or not whole grains are good for us?
It’s an established fact, it’s like, you know, opening whole investigations into whether or not, horses should eat grass and hay. It’s a silly question, it’s a waste of time. Yes, there are people who are gluten intolerant, they need to avoid gluten, that’s a different story, there are people with peanut allergies who need to avoid peanuts, but the question, are whole grains good for people–it’s answered, it’s done.
And then similarly, the idea that it’s possible to publish a book, The Plant Paradox for example, arguing that every food containing lectins needs to be avoided, even though all of the most nutritious foods contain lectins. So don’t eat beans, don’t eat lentils, don’t eat whole grains, don’t eat many vegetables and fruits–it’s preposterous.
People who do the opposite, who eat those things consistently have the best health outcomes. What we’ve equated all of this to, Robyn, is like pointing out to people, “Oxygen is toxic, and there’s oxygen in the atmosphere and I’m the only person willing to tell you about that,” and it’s a great controversy.
And what? Hold your breath? The failure to consider the big picture, yes there is oxygen in the atmosphere, yes too much oxygen is toxic for people, but you know what? You really need to breathe.
So the same thing about food. Sure, if you’re sensitive to gluten, avoid it, but eat other whole grains because they’re consistently good for people. Yes, there are lectins in some foods and there are some theoretical arguments about the possibility of harm for some people from some dose of lectins, but in general the foods that contain them, produce a net health benefit, and there’s just no basis for confusion.
Again and again, across every population, every kind of study no matter which way we aggregate the evidence, it’s perfectly clear that people do best when they eat diets of minimally processed foods, mostly plants, lots of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, beans, lentils, nuts, seeds, plain water for thirst, every time.
And any argument that is at odds with that incredibly well established foundation, is an attempt to sell you something. Period, end of story.
Again, you can customize a little bit. So I fully respect the fact that some people need to avoid certain grains because of their gluten content, some people have food allergies or sensitivities and may need to avoid some members of the nightshade family, or pick anything else you like. Again, people allergic to peanut shouldn’t eat them.
But the replacement of the weight of evidence regarding human health outcomes with these isolated tidbits about nutrition, is a case of failure to see the forest for the trees, time and time again. And I think as long as we, the people are willing to be suckers, are willing to be gullible and silly, and pretend like the fundamentals of nutrition actually change every time a new book comes out, I think authors and publishers will be willing to keep selling us bad advice. So I really do think it’s time for us to stand up for good sense.
We want good science, but we have to filter it through good sense. It’s interesting, Robyn, you think about something that matters to people, like money, and everybody knows that get rich-quick-schemes are silly.
Sensible, responsible adults don’t get involved in get-rich-quick schemes, they don’t. People get an education, they work hard, they [live on less than they earn and invest] their money.
All we really need to do is grow up and start treating health the way most of us treat wealth, as something that serious people take seriously, and know the basic advice about it isn’t going to change every day on The Today Show.
And no, we’re not interested in every contrary opinion that comes out every day, and we’re in it for the long haul, and we want to take care of it in a way that will protect us across the span of not the next six weeks, but the next six decades.
And we want to invest in it, and we want to bequeath it to our children and share with our families. There’s just a whole different way of thinking about diet, lifestyle and health, and our culture really needs to grow up. I think we are acting like silly, gullible children, and so it’s a seller’s market for dietary nonsense.
And I do think unfortunately, given the profit incentive, as long as we’re willing to buy nonsense about fad diets, there will be people willing to sell it to us. And the result is, from my perspective, we have squandered literal decades going around the same circles by different names.
You go back to the 1970s, that’s when Robert Atkins first published his books about going low-carbohydrate. [The low-carb fads] came out again in the 1990s, when they really took off. If it was such a terrific idea, 20 years ago, where are all the lean, healthy people now?
The reality is you can cut fat and eat low-fat junk food, and get fatter and sicker.
You can cut carbs and eat low-carb junk food, and get fatter and sicker. And the only thing that’s a reliable defense against getting fatter and sicker is actually eating and living well, and that’s not about cutting one macronutrient class, it’s about choosing wholesome foods, in sensible combinations.
And you don’t get there by jettisoning lectins or gluten or fructose or carbohydrate or fat. You get there by focusing on foods and dietary patterns that stand the test of time. I’m very disheartened by the current preoccupation with the ketogenic diet, which from my perspective is basically just a low-carb diet that’s been popular several times before under a new name. And the idea here is to restrict carbohydrates to the point where the body switches over from running on glucose in the blood stream to running on a metabolite of fat called ketone bodies.
And what bothers me about this is, yes of course, if you remove one of three macronutrient classes from the diet, you will produce weight loss.
And if you produce weight loss in people who are overweight or obese, there’s a good chance you will improve in the short term their blood pressure, their blood cholesterol, their blood sugar because weight loss tends to do all of that.
The problem is, leaving aside that it’s nearly impossible for most people to sustain a diet that cuts out one of three major sources of macronutrients–and in this case cutting out most of the most nutritious foods–because all plant foods are carbohydrates, vegetables are carbohydrates; fruits are rich in carbohydrate; nuts and seeds contain carbohydrate; beans and lentils contain carbohydrate; whole grains are principally carbohydrates.
So all of the most nutritious foods are excluded when you cut carbohydrate out of your diet. But in addition to the doubts about anybody willing to live this way for the long term, there’s the simple fact that we have no evidence that this dietary pattern is consistent with long term human health, and every reason to worry that it’s not, since all of the best long term outcomes occur in people who eat lots of carbohydrate.
Not refined starch and added sugar–that’s bad carbohydrate–but lots of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, beans, lentils, nuts, and seeds in their native, unprocessed form. That’s all carbohydrate too, but that’s the best stuff.
Those are the people who have the best health outcomes. So what’s the risk with a ketogenic diet? Well, from my perspective stating it quite bluntly, the risk is it’s like using cocaine or a bout of cholera to lose weight.
Yes, these things will cause you to lose weight in the short term, and yes, they will bring down your cholesterol and blood sugar, but that really doesn’t mean they’re good for you.
And we have every reason to be doubtful that this dietary pattern, which is fundamentally at odds with everything we know about long term human health and vitality, is a really bad idea and yet because it promises short term weight loss, it is the diet and lifestyle analog to a get-rich-quick scheme.
People go into a trance and start reaching for their credit cards, and we really need to fix that.
Robyn:  I love your statement that you can lose weight using cocaine or cholera, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good way to eat.  I feel like with 2017 on Google, the number one search term, I don’t know if you know this, was “ketogenic diet.” It’s the perfect example of how you talk about how Americans have gotten very, very silly and we want something to be discovered right now, that’s a hack, and it’s easy, it’s like a quick fix, “take a pill” kind of thinking, that overcomes thousands of published studies.
And so, you’ve already done it very well, but what I hear you saying, and you could correct me if I’m wrong, is that the low-carb diet is so dangerous because, you’re removing the foods that have high fiber, and Americans are notorious for not getting enough fiber. You’re removing the foods that are highest in micronutrients.
And so, do you feel, as I do, that in comparison to the body of evidence, that the ketogenic diet is one of the more dangerous diets we’ve seen in the last what? 50 years of the diet industry?
Dr. Katz:  First of all Robyn, I think everything you said is fundamentally correct and really important. And I also think it’s really important that we stop talking about nutrients and start talking about foods, and how we put them together because what we’ve proven abundantly to one another is that, we can pick any nutrient we like and still get the diet wrong.
In contrast, if you get the foods and dietary pattern right, you inevitably get the nutrients right because they simply come along for the ride.
I think one of the critical messages here is almost any dietary advice that’s focusing on an ingredient or a kind of food or a nutrient, is going to be bad advice right from the start, because that’s the way it’s been for decades now. We’ve focused on one nutrient at a time, and basically proven that there are lots of different ways to eat badly, and we Americans seem committed to exploring them all.
I mean, just look at the rates of obesity and chronic diseases as the result.
So that’s really the critical issue and it’s not just about the ketogenic diet, it’s about whatever fad diet is going to come along next, too. It’s time to stop having an interest in any fad diet.
The places around the world where people live the longest and enjoy the greatest vitality, do not change their diets every time a book gets published. They eat the way they’ve eaten for generations, that’s the message. So wholesome foods, sensible combination stands the test of time, it’s about foods and dietary patterns rather than nutrients.
The nutrients sort themselves out, when you get the foods right. In terms of how dangerous the ketogenic diet per se is, to me it seems very likely that it’s dangerous.
It’s a diet that emphasizes foods associated with higher risks for every major chronic disease, heart disease, diabetes, stroke, cancer or even dementia. I think it’s likely to be extremely injurious over time.
But as a scientist who is careful about what the evidence tells us, I suppose I have to say I don’t know for sure, because I’m not aware of any long term studies of the ketogenic diet. Because so few people in the real world stay on such a diet for any length of time.
So what I can say is, it seems likely to me that it would be harmful, not helpful, over time. It also seems likely to me that few people could stick to it anyway, which means you’ll lose the weight quickly and then gain it back, with interest, which is what most people who go on fad diets do. That’s not a good idea either.
And in contrast, diets of wholesome foods, mostly plants, which are high in carbohydrate, have also been associated with rapid weight loss, have also been associated with reversing type two diabetes, have also been associated with lowering blood pressure and lowering blood cholesterol, and have been associated with the ideal outcomes we all really care about, which is years in life, and life in years.
So if you can get everything you want with a dietary pattern we know is good for you, and good for your family, and it’s suitable for your children and can stand the test of time, and by the way is also good for the planet too, why on earth would you take the chance, of a leap of faith in another direction?
So again, I don’t have proof from a 20-year long study of the harms of the ketogenic diet because such a study has never been done. Even its fans have to admit they can’t know it’s helpful, because they have no evidence of that.
And in contrast, those of us advocating for the basic theme of the diet we know to be good for people, wholesome foods, mostly plants, sensible combinations, and consequently generally fairly high in carbohydrates, certainly not ketogenic, we’re not making that recommendation based on a leap of faith, we’re making that recommendation based on what really happens to real people in the real world over lifetimes.
David Katz, M.D. is founding director of Yale University’s Yale-Griffin Prevention Research Center, past-president of the American College of Lifestyle Medicine, and current president of the True Health Initiative. He is recognized globally for his expertise in nutrition, weight management and the prevention of chronic disease and was named one of the nation’s top nutrition experts for 2017-2018 by DietSpotlight.com.
Terry Tillaart, PhD
Video transcript:
Here is one reason why the ketogenic diet is so wrong: It is low in all of these nutrients, many of which are critical to life and death.
• Potassium • Sodium • Folate • Vitamins  C and E • Magnesium and Calcium (This can ultimately lead to muscle cramps, constipation, gallbladder and kidney stones, breast tissue calcification and heel spurs) • Iodine • Fiber (a low fiber diet is linked to almost every disease including stroke and breast cancer). Note: There is NO fiber in animal flesh. • Phytochemicals (there are probably 50,000 phytochemicals that provide the phytonutrients that protect against disease. They all come from plant-based foods. An example of this is allicin, in garlic.
While the ketogenic diet does not provide enough of the listed nutrients, it does provide heterocyclic amines and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons—chemicals formed by cooking animal flesh.
These chemicals are toxic to the blood and include harmane—a neurotoxic compound linked to Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s and cancer.
The Ketogenic crowd frequently loves to use the term “nutritional ketosis” but anyone who is intellectually honest can clearly see this diet is anything but high in nutrition.
The Ketogenic diet is also inherently high in Glutamine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Tyrosine and Asparagine, all of which researchers remark in multiple studies, that cancer has an absolute dependency on and addictions to these amino acids.
In fact, a 2015 Oncoscience journal article recently stated that cancer patients may be successfully treated with a protein-free diet which echoes many other journals studying various amino acid restriction strategies.8
These [meat-centric] diets also contain dozens of heterocyclic amines and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons which are chemicals formed when muscle meat, including beef, pork, fish, or poultry, is cooked using high-temperature methods.
If we simply took PhiP, Harmane, and TMAO’s as a short list of amines to examine, we would be furnished with more than ample reasons to be avoiding these foods.
In fact, Dr. Kim Williams, M.D. President of the American College of Cardiology, reported that TMAO itself was enough reason to “vigorously avoid consuming animal based foods.” He also went on to state that there are only two kinds of cardiologists: “vegans, and those who haven’t read the data.”
This short list of toxic compounds has not yet touched on the known inflammatory compound Neu5Gc found exclusively in animal flesh foods.
Claims of ancestral diets from the “Paleo” crowd have all been disproven by brave anthropologists Sussman, Walker, Copeland etc. Claims of “bio-Individuality” [as claims that some people should eat a lot of meat] hold no weight, given for all practical purposes, we are identical from a GI anatomy standpoint. And like every other species on the planet, that anatomy is conducive to a species-appropriate diet.
Much like our closest anatomical relatives, the chimpanzees and bonobos, we are clearly designed for a raw food, plant driven, low fat, high-carbohydrate diet.
Countless Pubmed studies begin with statements to the effect of “…to counteract the known damages of a high fat diet we are testing xyz substance…” for a reason and that is because we are designed for a low-fat diet irrespective of the source.
To ascribe to the tenets of the “ketogenic” diet is to believe that bacon, lard and processed oils are literally preferential to apples, bananas and figs, which is not only absurd, it is wholly unscientific and irrational.
The only way for any study to confer benefits of the ketogenic diet is to take a page from the recent documentary titled The Magic Pill and compare the health status of lard, bacon and processed oils vs. Twinkies, Goldfish and Doritos, and for anyone willing to buy that, I have oceanfront property in Switzerland I’d love to sell you!
Slick marketing from the meat and dairy industry who are hemorrhaging financially is the driving force behind the Atkins 2.0 push we see now, which has given rise to authors cashing in on telling people chocolate-covered bacon is healthy.
Anatomy, not observations of cultural customs in some far off land, is the first principle and criterion, and nothing supersedes it, to determine what we are optimally designed to thrive on and that answer will always remain, fruits and vegetables.
Terry Tillaart, PhD is a national speaker, coach and educator. He graduated in Natural Medicine from Kingdom College of Natural Health certified by Texas Chiropractic College Division of Postgraduate Studies. He offers several programs including ones regarding cancer, extreme pain resolution, rapid immunity and weight loss.
Robyn Openshaw
The ketogenic diet will continue to make some marketers rich, for a while. However, they will be doing harm to their audience. You can lose weight in many ways. Why do it in a way that massively increases your disease risk?
You can throw all the rotten tomatoes you want, at me, if you lost weight on “keto” and are therefore emotionally committed to it–you won’t be the first–but thousands of studies prove that high animal-fat diets are a terrible idea.
Far from a cancer cure, as some are promoting it to be, they are cancer causing. (And will harm your cardiovascular health too.)
I predicted from at least 100 live stages from 2009 to 2013 that the protein-obsessed “Paleo” fad would be replaced by an obsession with fats.
(And here we are. Enter “keto.”)
I have a new prediction. Trust me, you don’t have to be very smart to predict this.
Because Atkins already did it, with his very similar, and equally lousy, animal-products-obsessed diet.
And an avalanche of data proved that Dr. Atkins’ diet adherents didn’t just have no energy, bad breath, and constipation (just like “keto” followers)–they also ended up with much higher rates of diabetes, heart disease, and colorectal cancers.
So what did he do? As more scientists pointed out the nutritional deficits of the dietary practices he taught, Atkins prescribed and sold people 67 different supplement pills to compensate for his nutrient-deficient, unlimited-burgers-and-cheese diet.
So. My prediction: Keto marketers will start selling loads of isolated-nutrient supplements that people need in their nutrition-starved state.
It’s a ridiculous fad. It’s not for smart people. It’s for sheeple.
Keto people scream at me, “BUT I EAT SALAD!”
Yes, as you should. That’s great. But, most of the calories of the ketogenic diet, if you follow the program, is 60-80 percent animal fats and protein.
That’s massively higher amounts of animal products than every good nutrition study has shown to be disease preventative.
No wonder that in January 2018, U.S. News and World Report ranked it as tied for dead last in their review of 40 diets.
Robyn Openshaw, MSW, is the author of 15 titles and the founder of GreenSmoothieGirl.com. She spoke in 450 cities, in 6 years, and brings together research and clinical experts on her blog and her popular podcast, Vibe, on iTunes and Stitcher. Her most recent book, 2017’s Vibe, was a #1 Amazon and USA Today bestseller. Other titles include The Green Smoothies Diet, 12 Steps to Whole Foods, and she has a free video masterclass on how to detox twice a year for optimal health even in a toxic world.
Derek Henry
Every successful nutritional plan for exceptional health and longevity is rooted in easily digestible, highly hydrating, fiber-rich, antioxidant-loaded, and nutrient-dense foods that are very antibacterial, antiviral, antiparasitic, antifungal, and antimicrobial.
The keto diet, unfortunately, fails in each of these areas.
First of all, favoring animal protein and fats as 80 to 90 percent of your diet puts excessive pressure on the kidneys, liver, and gallbladder.
This excessive protein harms the kidney’s ability to filter the blood of wastes, hampers the liver’s ability to neutralize and eliminate toxins, and over taxes the gallbladder in its role to efficiently digest fats. In a world full of kidney, liver, gallbladder, and digestive issues, this is a major concern.
Secondly, a keto diet is generally devoid of enzymes, prebiotics, probiotics, and fiber, due to the massive elimination of fruits, grains, legumes, and most vegetables from the diet.
These four key nutrient classes ensure efficiency of the digestive process, including healthy bowel movements (daily), as well as efficient absorption of vitamins and minerals. In a society dealing with bowel issues (e.g. constipation) and nutritional deficiencies, the keto diet again fails miserably at properly addressing these problems.
Thirdly, since the body is comprised of up to 75% water, it’s very important to consume a diet that is highly hydrating. With only 5-10% of the keto diet including fruits and vegetables (the most hydrating foods of all), the body is in a constant state of thirst that has to be met with copious amounts of clean, mineral rich water (a rare commodity these days).
Lastly, staying healthy in today’s world of biological warfare requires a consistent approach to consuming foods that are highly anti-bacterial, anti-parasitic, anti-fungal, anti-viral, and anti-microbial.
Some of the richest sources of these immune protective properties are fruits, vegetables, and herbs, which are largely eliminated [in the keto diet] in favor of animal protein and fats, which contain little to none of these properties.
In the last 5 years of teaching people to overcome a wide variety of chronic health issues and enabling them to sustain it for the long-term, I can confidently state that the keto diet is ill conceived, with little to no hope for the individual to sustain it in the medium to long term.
This makes it another fad diet, with inevitable negative health consequences.
Derek Henry, Founder of Healing the Body and the THRIVE Online Health Program, used nutrition, natural remedies, and a holistic lifestyle to naturally unravel 13 chronic disease conditions that conventional or alternative medical professionals couldn’t help him resolve.
Dr. John McDougall, M.D.
All large, successful populations of people throughout all verifiable human history have obtained the bulk of their calories from starch.
Remember, Aztecs and Mayans, the people of the corn. Potatoes, for the people of the Incas. Rice for the Asians. I mean, good grief. If these weren’t good, healthy foods, productive foods, we wouldn’t have fought World War II or the Vietnam conflict. We almost lost World War II to rice eaters and we lost the Vietnam conflict to rice eaters. People have it so mixed up.
There was just an article out last week where they fed individual components of food–carbs, fat, protein–to lab animals, and they found it was only the fat, that made them fat. So the fat you eat is the fat you wear. So you avoid [most] fats and oils unless you want to wear them.
The body’s going to burn carbohydrates for activity. It’s going to use a tiny little bit of protein to repair and build a few things, but it’s gonna save that oil and fat for the day when there’s no food available, so you can get through the famine.
Now, if you eat a diet that excludes essentially all carbohydrate, which your body needs for fuel, then you’ll lose weight. Yeah, you’ll lose weight because you’ll get sick. What happens with the Ketogenic Diet, is the body has to resort to burning fat.
So it burns fat that you eat, and it burns fat in your body fat. And it produces the byproduct, ketones. And ketones create a state called ketosis which suppresses your appetite.
So initially you lose weight on these ketogenic diets because they’re also a diuretic. They cause you to lose six, eight, ten pounds of water. But then what happens is you get so sick from being in ketosis. You don’t eat, so you lose weight.
As far as grains are concerned, well, grains are terrible, right? That’s what people are saying these days. And that’s why there are probably ten billion Asians over the last hundred years who’ve lived on grains.
Grains are terrible. That’s why the Conquerors, the athletes, the workers of Central America, the Mayans and the Aztecs lived on a grain: corn. If it’s so terrible, how would they have ever survived? Well, their civilization survived 1300 years. And I could go from country to country to country–and we’ll find thousands of countries where billions of people lived on grains.
Wheat, barley and rye are great foods, except for people that have celiac disease. And then they must stay away from them.
But you can’t generalize from these few people to an entire population. Today there are billions of people on this planet and still in Asia, there are about 2 billion people and about half of them still live on a starch-based diet.
I think that the more unrealistic the dietary program, the faster it becomes popular. People are looking for weird. They’re looking for something that they might’ve missed. The magic secret that’s going to give them the health they deserve.
And so you could find a diet made up of almost anything out there. The ketogenic diets, they’re easy, they have a real low learning curve. You just go to the fast food restaurant, you order your meal, you throw away the bun, scrape off the ketchup and pickles, and then you’re on a ketogenic diet.
If you look at the advocates of these no carbohydrate diets, personally, look at them! Loren Cordain: Obese and sick. Barry Sears: Obese. Sally Fallon: Obese and sick. Just look. Those are the results you get on that diet.
Look at people who follow the program that I recommend or one similar [plant based]. Neal Barnard, Caldwell Esselstyn, Colin Campbell, myself, and on and on, we are trim and healthy looking.
John McDougall, M.D. is a physician and nutrition expert who teaches better health through vegetarian cuisine. He is the founder and director of the nationally renowned 10-day residential McDougall Program. He is the author of several nationally bestselling books including The McDougall Program, The McDougall Quick and Easy Cookbook, and Digestive Tune-up.
Dr. Eric Zielinski
Think going keto is harmless? Think again!
Studies in children using the ketogenic diet to treat epilepsy and other neurological conditions have uncovered that, even though the frequency of seizures may tend to decrease, it came at a significant cost. These children were significantly more likely to suffer from an increase in kidney stones, osteoporosis, hyperlipidemia, and even impaired growth.9, 10
Remember, the ketogenic diet was designed nearly a century ago to help children with epilepsy. Why people think that this lifestyle can be helpful and sustainable for relatively healthy adults in an effort to lose weight is counterintuitive.
The truth is, we really do not know what happens to adults when they adopt a low-carb / high-fat lifestyle for more than 6-12 months, because that’s as long as the clinical trials last that we have on record. We’re desperately in need of longitudinal studies to evaluate the long-term ramifications to what obviously appears to be an aberrant restriction of the God-given fruits, legumes, and whole grains that our ancestors enjoyed.
It is, without question, true that humans thrive on a predominantly plant-based diet. Research has shown us that diets low in phytochemicals (plant-based compounds) will ultimately lead to subpar health. The European Journal of Nutrition published an article in 2013 that put it this way: “Whereas the absence of essential nutrients from the diet results in overt deficiency, often times, with moderate to severe physiological decrements, the absence of [phytochemicals] from the diet results in suboptimal health.”11
This is particularly important in light of the recent spike in interest surrounding carbohydrate starvation fad diets that promote heavy meat and animal fat consumption. Now, this is not to say that people will get sick and die young if they regularly eat meat, though studies have alluded to this as a possibility with increased risk of heart disease as one major threat.12
It is to say, however, that research strongly suggests that someone’s chances of enjoying optimal health is greatly diminished if their diet consists mostly of animal fat and protein.
The reason is that low-carb / high-fat fad diets focus on “essential nutrition” and ignore plant-based phyto-compounds from a wide variety of sources (including fruits, veggies, whole grains and legumes), which are responsible for robust health.
Dieters need to choose. Enjoy “suboptimal health” to shed some quick pounds. Or, follow a more time-tested approach, rich in plant-based nutrition.
Dr. Eric Zielinski (otherwise known as Dr. Z.) has pioneered natural living and Biblical health education since 2003. He is trained as an aromatherapist, public health researcher, and chiropractor. Dr. Z is the author of the national bestseller, The Healing Power of Essential Oils.
Dr. John Douillard, D.C.
From my podcast interview with Dr. Douillard, Episode 46:
The science shows wheat–whole wheat, not refined or processed wheat–lowers the risk of Alzheimer’s by 53% in the Mediterranean diet, 54% in the Mayan diet, which is three servings of whole wheat or whole grains per day, and lowers the risk of type 2 diabetes in study after study after study.13
There was a 30-year study of over almost 200,000 people and they found that people who ate the most gluten had the lowest rates of type 2 diabetes, and people who ate the least amount of gluten had the highest rates of type 2 diabetes.14
And this is a really interesting phenomenon no one’s really talking about. Is it okay that we just take a food group that we’ve been eating for three and a half to four million years, and there’s science to back that up, right out of our diet?
There was one study…that Kamut has twice the amount of gluten as some of the modern strands. But that grain, with twice the amount of gluten, had twice the reduction of inflammation. It actually reduced the risk of diabetes, and also reduced cholesterol.
There are studies that show that when people eat a gluten-free diet, versus people who don’t eat a gluten-free diet, have four times as much mercury in their blood when they eat “gluten-free” than when they eat wheat.15
They have significantly less good bacteria, and more bad bacteria, than people who eat wheat. In one more study, they found that people eating gluten-free have significantly fewer killer T-cells, a measure of immunity, than people who eat wheat.
And when you eat a whole grain, it lowers the risk of obesity, arthritis, cognitive decline, Alzheimer’s, and type 2 diabetes in study after study, over 600 references in my book, because I was blown away by the amount of science that says that wheat is actually okay.
And they found evidence of gluten in the teeth of ancient humans from four million years ago. In fact, a study at the University of Utah showed that the ancient humans, three and a half million years ago, would gather enough wheat berries in two hours to feed them for an entire day.
And it’s so funny, we were talking about this earlier, how everybody can’t digest grains anymore because their digestion’s been broken down from the processed food diet.
And everyone is going to a “Paleo” diet, which is meat three times a day. And there’s no paleolithic person on the planet, living in the Paleolithic Era, [who] ever ate meat three times a day, it simply didn’t happen.
And they absolutely did eat grain, because they could pick them off the wheat berry. And when they originally started to hybridize the wheat, around 12,000 years ago, growers wanted the wheat to be bigger. They wanted the berry to be bigger, because it was easier to find, and pick. Otherwise, they’re needle-sized, you can lose them in the dirt.
So, what they did, they sort of selected for bigger grain. When they selected for bigger grain, guess what they were selecting for? Less gluten, and more sugar.
The original hybridization of wheat had nothing to do with increasing gluten content. It had everything to do with increasing sugar content. The problem has been sugar from the very beginning and it still is sugar today. It’s not a “Wheat Belly” issue, it’s a sugar-belly issue.
If you ask any anthropologist what the paleolithic people ate, they will tell you in short order, they ate nothing that is recommended in the Paleo diet.
I mean they ate meat, but they ate meat like they would kill a rabbit and scavenge a little here, a little there. They’d feast on a wooly mammoth and then famine for a period of time.
They ate grains, they ate tubers, they ate nuts and seeds and a combination of many, many things. But it wasn’t meat three meals a day, guaranteed.
It was much, much, less meat, and it was many, many more starches.
John Douillard, D.C. is a globally recognized leader in the fields of natural health, Ayurveda, and sports medicine. He directs LifeSpa, a holistic wellness center in Boulder, CO, and is the creator of LifeSpa.com, a web-based Ayurvedic health and wellness resource. He is the bestselling author of seven health books including The 3-Season Diet, Eat Wheat, and Body, Mind and Sport.
John Robbins
From my podcast interview with John, Episode 42:
When we eat plants, instead of animals, basically–or mostly plants and few animals–then our health improves. We live longer lives, higher quality lives. I think there’s a higher frequency, then, in our energy or to our vibration, to our quality of life.
Also, our ecological footprint and our carbon footprint are lessened. We are lighter on the earth. To me, that is a big thing.
Now, food, I’ll come back to that, what do I eat? I don’t eat genetically engineered foods, ever. I eat as much organic as I can. I’m veganesque! For 30-something years I was a vegan exclusively, and hardcore at it. On the last few years, I feel better eating some wild fish–in particular salmon–but with that exception, I’m vegan.
But you can be vegan and eat an unhealthy diet. I did, at one point, but I’ve grown out of that, and I eat a lot of plants. I eat a lot of vegetables. I eat a lot of fresh fruits. I eat some whole grains, but they are low glycemic ones, quinoa and buckwheat primarily.
The only breads I eat are made from organic sprouted grains. I don’t eat flour. I don’t eat added sugar, because there are sugars naturally inherent in all foods really, in many fruits. I do enjoy fresh fruit.
I buy tons and tons of kale and collards and arugula and broccoli, and mustard greens, and all kinds of dark green leafy vegetables, because I love them and I eat them every day.
I have smoothies most mornings where I blend kale leaves or collard leaves and maybe an apple and maybe a carrot and a cucumber.
I also grind, in a little coffee grinder that I have set aside for this purpose, flax seeds and chia seeds. I grind them up and put them in the smoothie, along with the fresh veggies, and sometimes an apple, and water, and blend it up.
Then, throughout the day, I eat salads and steamed veggies. I’m a vegetarian who eats vegetables. I really am a vegetabletarian.
John Robbins is an international bestselling author and president of the Food Revolution Network. His many books include Diet for a New America, The Food Revolution, and Healthy at 100. He is an adamant spokesperson for healthy, environmentally sound, sustainable choices and is the recipient of the Rachel Carson Award, the Albert Schweitzer Humanitarian Award, and the Peace Abbey’s Courage of Conscience Award.
Ben Greenfield
From my podcast interview with Ben, Episode 75:
[On his years as a body builder:] So, I did it all by eating copious amounts of protein, I mean a lot of protein. Like I don’t know how many grams I was at per day, but well above that 200 gram-ish amount where you begin to get like ammonia toxicity and a whole bunch of nitrogenous waste.
I was consuming a lot of protein, but bad protein. I mean, just like what happened to be on sale from the frozen steak section of the grocery store, or four to five cans of tuna at night.
I was sponsored by ABB Bodybuilding Shakes, which is kind of like number one “doctor’s recommendation” Ensure, which is like maltodextrin and soy protein isolate and vegetable oil and a bunch of crap in a can.
So, it was a high, high, high protein, low fat, low carb diet that I followed while living in the gym. Yeah, I was pretty unhealthy. I looked really good but, again, very low testosterone. A lot of gut issues. That really messed up my gut for a long time.
Yeah, like you mentioned, I did look good and I got kind of sort of strong, not like function, you don’t even get that functionally strong when you’re doing that type of stuff.
I don’t think there is a right diet. I think that people need to eat based on what they’re genetically hardwired to eat. There are people who are Sub-Saharan African or Southeast Asian. Or people with familial hypercholesterolemia, for example, who have very high levels of saturated-fat sensitivity and might produce inflammation or extremely high, high cholesterol or high particle count in response to, let’s say, one of these trendy, high fat, low carb or ketogenic diets.
Ben Greenfield attained his master’s degree in exercise physiology and biomechanics before partnering with physicians and opening a series of personal training studios and gyms. He is the author of 13 books including the New York Times bestseller, Beyond Training. He is the founder and CEO of Kion, a company dedicated to creating and delivering products, information, coaching and consulting to those wanting to experience the pinnacle of health, performance, and longevity.
Dr. Steven Lin
From my podcast interview with Dr. Lin, Episode 71:
I have drawn up a food pyramid in [my book] The Dental Diet, and what it looks like is, the base of it is plants. That really tells us that, for the vast majority of what we eat, it should be coming from a variety of plants.
We’ve actually changed our plant intake. It’s something like seven species we’ve now reduced our intake of vegetables to. [We really need] a variety, and all these different fibers are what create microbial diversity. That’s a huge part of understanding how to create a healthy oral environment, because you have diverse, ecologically stable bacteria that then go on to your gut.
Stephen Lin, DMD is a functional dentist and author of the #1 Amazon Bestseller, The Dental Diet. His practice is based on the belief that food, not drills and needles, is the key to healthy teeth and gums, and that orthodontic braces can be prevented with nutrition.
Dr. Steven Masley, M.D.
From my podcast interview with Dr. Masley, Episode 60:
When someone needs energy and eats [something] like a granola bar or cereal or bread, insulin’s the hormone that tells your cells to store that energy. When you eat a refined carb, your sugar levels spike, you get a message, insulin’s the hormone that says, “Push that energy into the cell and store it.”
Every time you eat refined carbs, you get this insulin spike. Now, if we do that regularly, here’s the challenge: Your cells start saying, “Hey, I don’t have any more room to store. That cell is full. I can’t store any more. I’m going to stop listening to you. I’m going to be resistant to your storage message.”
When you reach insulin resistance, that’s when we’re gaining weight around our waistline, but at the same time, here’s the weird thing, brain cells, when they feel like, “Okay, I’m going to resist insulin’s message,” they become unable to use energy at all, and they become dysfunctional. It’d be like if someone put the wrong type of gas in your car, the engine wouldn’t run.
When you consume out-of-control carbs and you get this insulin resistance message going on, your brain cells are unable to use the sugar in your blood, and they can’t use the sugar properly that’s in their cells. Their motor won’t run and you get brain fog or forgetful or unfocused. Those are the signs.
Robyn: I noticed that you mentioned refined carbs, and I’m glad to hear you say that because there’s so much debate about carbs, as if all carbohydrates are bad.
Can you tell me what the difference is between refined carbs and maybe simple sugars found in whole foods like fruit. Is there a difference?
Steven: Oh, it’s a huge difference, and you explain this really nicely in a lot of your material. When we eat unprocessed carbs, like an apple or a cup of broccoli, that has a lot of fiber in it, the fiber binds to your sugar so your sugar doesn’t jump up high and spike. It comes out slowly and gently over time and provides us with a steady flow of energy.
Now, here’s what many people don’t appreciate, that when they have whole wheat, when you take flour, a grain, and process it into flour, it has the same response as table sugar. Whether it’s table sugar, or white flour, or whole wheat flour, they all act the same way in your blood and have that sugar spike effect.
What we want is carbs that don’t cause your blood sugar to jump high, so low-glycemic carbs would be like blueberries and cherries and watermelon and an apple, or any of the vegetables except for a potato, basically. Nuts and beans have a very low glycemic load.
What has a high glycemic load would be anything made with flour or crackers or chips, bread, granola, processed cereal, and obviously sugar itself.
All those things wreak havoc on our brain function and our health overall so it’s really an important distinction between eating carbs that have a low glycemic but have lots of nutrients, phytonutrients, and then those that are just kind of empty and sugar-releasing.
Stephen Masley, M.D. is author of several bestselling books including The Better Brain Solution. He created the #1 health program for public television called 30 Days to a Younger Heart. His research focuses on the impact of lifestyle choices on brain function, heart disease, and aging.
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  –Robyn Openshaw, MSW, is the bestselling author of The Green Smoothies Diet, 12 Steps to Whole Foods, and 2017’s #1 Amazon Bestseller and USA Today Bestseller, Vibe.
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