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eachadventure · 4 years
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Beta 200 RR — Test Ride & First Impressions... and FAIL! (2019)
Can’t wait to ride this bike again!
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motosupply · 5 years
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2020 Beta ride impressions
125RR
Still not a 125 guy sadly! The last one I rode was last years model so my small bore 2-stroke skills haven't improved at all and I wasn't able to get the most out of this machine but even with that said it is an amazing power plant for an offroad 125 2-stroke. The power is all up top of course but it's a pretty wide spread all things considered and there certainly is something about throwing a 125 around that is too much fun.
200RR
Much like the 250 just below, my impression of this machine varied wildly from last year. This machine needed some jetting so as far as motor impression I would defer to last years writeup as that machine ran great and was very impressive. Handling was excellent, nimble, and able put it anywhere you want on the trail just like the 125.
250RR
I just happened to ride the 2020 250RR first based on line length, and it was a good start to the day. Our course was tight and slick; typical Ohio slippery I'm told! The last time I rode a 250 I wasn't overly impressed but this one must have been setup differently because I loved this machine. Responsive and lively power, yet linear and without the hit I didn't care for last year. As this was so early in the day the course was still quite slick but the power delivery was controllable and snappy at the same time somehow; very impressed.
300RR
I rode the 300RR second and the difference in power delivery and feel was noticeable between it and the 250. A bit more flywheel feel so more power than the 250 but even more controllable. I've never felt that the Beta 2-strokes vibrated badly and still feel the same with the addition of the counterbalancer.
300RR Race Edition
Next up was my first ride on a Race Edition with KYB forks. The course was still pretty slick and in these conditions there wasn't a whole lot of difference between the two, possibly a bit more planted in the front with the Kayaba AOS forks.
350RR Race Edition
Moving up the displacement range the 350RR Race Edition got more into my comfort zone as a 4-stroke guy. In the snotty conditions, and at sea level, the 350 was great. Easier to find traction due to power delivery and overall weight, in the slick Ohio conditions I really enjoyed the 350. Riding it a second time later in the day brought out the differences between the two forks, I still prefer the closed cartridge units for feel and bottoming resistance, whether Sachs or Kayaba.
390RR-S
I really love the 390 motor, my favorite powerplant of all the machines and this one was no different. The change to Race Edition spec just makes the RR-S motor even better. Still the "Mama Bears bed" of all the 4-strokes, just right. This machine still handled the slick terrain at sea level well but is also excellent is the more wide open western conditions at altitude that we ride locally.
430RR-S
By this point in the day most of the track was finally getting burned in so speeds increased a bit to where the difference between the open chamber and closed chamber forks could be felt. No change for me here, I still prefer the closed chamber forks out of the crate. My personal machine has open chambers that work quite well and either can be made to work very, very well when setup for you personally but there is a difference out of the crate. Same here in the engine department, all of the RR-S engines now have the same fuel injection system and equipment as the Race Edition 4-strokes and that just makes them even better. The RR-S is a great machine in any displacement if it fits your riding style.
500RR-S
The last 4-stroke to try was the 500. I should mention that this year all of the machines have updated dry/rain settings and while still not a huge difference it was definitely noticeable. I experimented with both on most every machine and with the conditions we were in the rain mode helped find traction regardless of displacement and 2-stroke or 4. Overjumping a little bit on this machine had me landing in a hole and this is where the difference between open and closed chamber forks is most noticeable. The open chamber forks have less bottoming resistance and a different feel in the last third of the stroke. Again, these machines were bone stock and were probably all at least one spring rate off for me so that's definitely a factor.
XTrainer
Scott (Sierra BMW & Beta Service Manager and XTrainer rider)-Pretty much the same machine as last year, just a bit smoother and the blue bodywork looks great. Always an easy to ride but impressively capable bike. Watching the other riders accelerating across the field before entering the woods section, you wouldn’t think of this Beta as “entry level” or underpowered! Still my favorite.
Evo 200 2T
This was the first of the trials machines I puttered around on. I'm no trials rider and had never ridden a 200 before but this machine was amazing. Plenty of power at sea level, and very light and agile feeling.
Scott (Sierra BMW & Beta Service Manager and actual trials rider)-First time I have been able to ride a 200. Nice nimble bike with very smooth power delivery. Easier to “move” the bike around than the bigger Evo machines. Very impressed with how easy it is to ride. Very fun bike!
Evo 300 2T
I rode the Evo 300 later in the day and not only does it have more power than the 200 there's also a bit different feel to it, quite a bit more flywheel if I had to guess. It felt to me as if there were just more inertia at work in general, both power and handling.
Scott (Sierra BMW & Beta Service Manager and actual trials rider)-Very familiar since this is what I normally ride. Suspension on this standard model felt better than my 2017 Evo did and closer to the 2018 Factory that I currently ride. Unfortunately the area we used didn’t have very many true trials obstacles so I couldn’t give it a thorough test. As always, the 300 has plenty of power!
Evo 300 4T
Scott (Sierra BMW & Beta Service Manager and actual trials rider)-Nice bike, very responsive but nice smooth power delivery. There is a different feel due to the 4-stroke motor and extra pounds over the 2-stroke making it a little heavier to “move” around, but it also makes it more stable. I personally prefer the 2-strokes but there isn’t anything negative to say about this bike. Different strokes for different folks!
Overall - Enduro
As always, Beta has made some really noticeable improvements over last years machines. The entire line has new bodywork with a flatter seat, new radiators, frame, and redesigned mid-section that really improves the bike/rider interface. The RR-S line now has twin injectors and Betas mass centralization efforts continue as the redesigned motor lost weight and moved it for better handling. The 2-stroke 300s and 250 got a counter-balancer to make them even smoother. Of course, another big addition is the Kayaba fork on the Race Edition machines and as expected it works excellently. Two more World Titles, an AMA regional title wrapped up early, and top 3 in a couple of other National championships for 2019 and the amazing 2020 machines mean that 2020 is shaping up to be an even better year for Beta!
Overall - Trial
Scott (Sierra BMW & Beta Service Manager and actual trials rider)-I like the new bodywork. The tail light is more integrated into the fender and it’s nice having the map switch near the gas cap and an LED to let you know what mode is set. It is good that the standard front fork can now be easily upgraded to have the “Factory” adjustability. Good, solid bikes as always.
If you have questions please feel free to hit me up at [email protected] and I'll certainly answer what I can about the new machines for you. Thanks for reading.
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localadspk · 6 years
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motosupply · 6 years
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2019 Beta model ride impressions!
Here's a quick rundown of each of the machines I tested at the 2019 Beta dealer meeting. The course was a 6-8 minute loop, pretty tight with the longest straight allowing 4th gear or so.
350RR-S
The first bike I rode was the 350RR-S, and in this setting it worked great. For those that don't know, the RR-S series is identical to the Race Edition machines except for front forks and Race Edition add-ons like the shift lever, brake pedal, billet aluminum goodies, seat, and graphics. The big difference obviously is the forks; Sachs open chamber on the RR-S and standard RR machines versus Sachs closed chamber on the Race Edition machines. Anyway, previously I'd ridden this machine in a more "wide open" setting and there the difference in low end and overall power compared to the 390 is obvious. In this tight setting though the 350 worked really well, the most "flickable" of the 4-strokes and plenty of power for the short straight we had on the loop.
390RR Race Edition
Next up was the 390RR Race Edition. I own a 390RR and absolutely love that motor, I've said many times it's like Mama Bears bed, just right! The 390 Race was excellent, Beta did a good job with the settings on the new closed chamber fork and I prefer the feel of it just a little compared to the open chamber version. Torquey down low and and a nice, linear power delivery are the highlights of the 390. Whether you're using the low end in a tight, technical section or revving it out on a straight, to me the 390 is the perfect 4-stroke off-road motor. I rode this machine later in the day as well and confirmed everything above.
200RR
The newest addition to the lineup was next, and had the longest line all day as everyone was excited to try this machine. I have to say it is really impressive! It feels a lot like a 300 in that you can lug it, it doesn't have as much power down low obviously but has a surprising amount of torque and if and when you need more a quick fan of the clutch gets it up into the meat of the power. Based on the 125RR platform it's obviously really light and agile, floating over obstacles and trail nasties unlike a 4-stroke. This makes it easy to ride as it won't tire you out, and the linear power delivery helps in this regard as well. This was also one of the few machines I rode twice throughout the course of the day as it was that good!
125RR Race Edition
Hopped on the 125RR Race next and I need to start out by saying it has been many, many years since I've ridden a 125 so I was a bit of a "fish out of water" on this machine. In the tight confines of our test loop I wasn't gelling with this machine, but it's through no fault of the bike. Again, light and agile are the highlights of this little ripper. While it has a lot less low end power compared to the 200, up top it runs strong with plenty of revs to carry a gear longer than you would expect on a 125.
300RR Race Edition
The 300 is the best seller, and for good reason. While not a "2-stroke guy" as I've ridden 4-strokes for almost 20 years I felt really good on this machine, and think it might have been my quickest lap on our little loop. It's a very progressive engine with a linear delivery that allows you a choice of a couple gears for most situations, and the handling is spot on for off road. This bike really made me reconsider being a "4-stroke guy" going forward. The closed chamber fork has had some critics over the years but it really feels good this year. After riding it I came to the conclusion that if you came to Beta from a motocrosser then you'll feel right at home with the Sachs closed cartridge forks. If you've been on other Enduro machines the open chamber forks might be more similar to what you're familiar with. Either can be made to work very, very well for a variety of terrain and speed levels but straight out of the box this seems like a good way to look at the difference. This is the other model I rode again later in the day to confirm my initial impression; truly an amazing machine.
300RR
I wanted to try the "standard" 300RR to get a "back-to-back" comparison and the difference is minor. To me the closed chamber fork feels a little more planted and controlled, but the settings on the 2019 open chamber fork are really good as well. Again, the difference isn't huge by any stretch and your criteria when choosing your new Beta might come down to terrain and speed level as mentioned previously. Either can work for any terrain and speed level, and with the option of the fairly new Beta Factory Suspension service allowing you to have your suspension set up for you, where, and how you ride, you can't go wrong with either.
430RR Race Edition
The 430 has a little more "bark" on the bottom than the 390, and riders coming from another brand of 450 might appreciate this aspect of the 430. In more open terrain this would help in lofting the front end over an unexpected trail nasty or torquing out of a deep corner. It does require a little more throttle control than the 350 or 390 in the tight stuff but nothing crazy.
250RR Race Edition
The 250 is an interesting counterpoint, to both the 200 and 300 models. It has a little bit more "hit" than either, kind of like a 250 MX bike from back in the day. It's identical to the 300 other than bore and stroke (similar to all of the 4-stroke engines) but through porting and ignition it does feel different. Falling between the 200 and 300 as far as low-end power as you'd expect but strong up top, I would describe this machine as having a steeper horsepower curve than the 300 with a bit of a bump in the midrange.
300 Evo Sport
I'd never ridden an Evo Sport (trials machine with long range tank and seat, as well as knobbies) so this was an interesting machine to me. Trials purists might not care for it but I can see it's appeal to a certain group of riders. On the trail you obviously couldn't "push the pace" like you can on an Enduro machine but I think it acquitted itself quite well on our short loop. You can actually sit down in a corner, although the ergonomics are completely different to an off-road bike. At a leisurely pace there's nothing it can't conquer, and the handling at this speed is just fine.
Some other highlights of the meeting were being recognized as a top 10 dealer, and let me say it again: A huge thanks to our great customers for getting us there, we really do appreciate each and every one of you that trusts us for your Beta needs! Hanging out with the race team is always good fun, and the team is really strong this year with both returning athletes who are really progressing and some new additions who should all feature on podiums in the 2019 race season! For 2019 Beta continues as the title sponsor of the AMA National Dual Sport series, great events that always have a huge turnout. Beta also announced the Beta Cup for the NEPG series. For you National Enduro riders, race a Beta 125 for a chance to win a 250RR at the end of the year! Finally, the Beta National Demo Tour continues, with 4 hugely successful events so far and 18 to 20 more coming soon.
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