#At least most of it may be 13x10 but not all

[dustydreamsanddirtyscars]

“Shaving People, Punting Things”-Promo for the 2nd Half of Season 13 “Siamo Tornati” a.k.a. “We’re back!”

Alright, like always when something new is released, I am fast asleep halfway around the world. So of course I am late to the party and no one needs another post on any of this, but here I go anyway… ;P Just wanted to briefly touch on the aspects I found interesting in this little snippet - though of course we know the episodes always drastically change in tone to these promos the show puts out. Still… there may be one thing or another that could be a sneak peek into something possibly more interesting.

Of course most of this seems to be centered around the spin off given most of the shots feature the cast of Wayward, the bits that I find most interesting however I feel may be more part of the overall bigger arc of “Supernatural” and the story of the Winchesters - saying it again, I wished the show would put as much effort into its look, the locations and shots and darkness at all times and not just for the spin off episodes, because in quality those differed quite a bit to most other episodes written under Dabb as showrunner.

But I’m going to stop ranting and just briefly, bullet style mention which moments spark thoughts:

1) Fire in the bunker: Or at least I assume it’s a door in the bunker since it looks so much like the one to Dean’s room which was featured with the long shot in 9x14 “Captives”. Will be interesting to find out how that one plays out. I have mused many a times about the bunker possibly (needing) to burn down in order for the show to progress further and for the Winchesters to “move on” literally - after all so much devastating stuff happened in these four walls. So yeah, colour me curious on that one and if someone puts the bunker on fire on purpose (maybe Lucifer who can’t get to his son hiding out there? or maybe Jack accidentally lights it up?)

2) Red boots and red hexbags: I adore that shot just for the visual alone. I suppose it could mark the re-introduction of Rowena? Or maybe even Sister Jo (definitely loved that shot of Danneel as well - I am not sure but it could either be Jack or Mary, rather thinking the latter behind her in the frame).

3) Castiel’s smile and Bobby’s weary eyes: I don’t know about you, but Castiel’s smile kind of gives me goosebumps, because we have not seen Cas smile like that in a long time, so immediately I think that this may not be Cas. Then again, I could see Cas smiling about and feeling delighted about the fact that Lucifer is locked up and can’t get to Jack. In relation to Bobby there ain’t much to say since you really can’t take away much from one close up, but still to me it feels like Otherworld!Bobby may “remember” something from another life…

4) The guy at the truck stop: This fella could be anyone of course, but I think the show has used him before. And I feel vaguely reminded of the guy who prays to “God” in Season 5 when Dean tells him he can call Michael down. Plus: Cliché look wise one could associate the looks of the guy with how Jesus is depicted often times, but that may be accidental - then again it would not be completely  surprising if the show decided to actually bring Christ into play. Though I have to admit I think I would not be a huge fan of that since the show has worked so cleverly with Team Free Will all at times filling the role of christ. So in that regard to me there is no need to introduce “Jesus”.

5) The “Bad Place”-Traveler and a Knockout: It seems to me that when Sam and Dean return from Jurassic World, they may bring back someone from that world and just sound wise that being reminds me majorly of the “Chitters” in S11. The way they moved, the clicking sounds… I don’t know it just gave me similar vibes - though of course the chitters had green and not red eyes. That episode back then to me always also alluded to so much more - the whole aspect of a new species and something “dark with wings hatching” could be re-introduced. I suspect though that if the show wanted to tie the beginning of the season into it they could retcon the shedim maybe living in that world… I guess we’ll see. My gut feeling still tells me that that traveler is somehow connected to Kaia and serves as her “shadow self” and with that works as a parallel to Dean’s MoC arc, which was paralleled to Kaia in the mid season finale (as talked about here and here). Plus, I feel like the fist through the door and Dean punching Sam (he somehow doesn’t look like he may be the one calling the shots there, but it’s hard to tell in those milliseconds) both loosely call back to the MoC arc as well.

6) The one with the head hanging down: This shot to me feels like it is played about to be one of the most integral aspects of the second half, but I could be entirely wrong. In any case it sems whoever that is has been locked up for quite a while. Just hair wise one could assume Aesmodeus, but I don’t think that’s the case. Hair and clothing wise I personally had to immediately think of Gavin McLeod, but that is unlikely as well. Then I wondered about the truck stop guy and whether he may be the one Donna tells to “not lie to God” and then I had to also think of Metatron. I guess it will be none of any of those options lol, but most sense would possibly make the truck stop guy. Personally, what I would find to be most compelling and which I guess isn’t ever going to be the case, is if they finally introduced normal SPN-universe’s Michael and that would be him…

So yeah, that’s about ir. Like I said, no one needs another post on it. Sorry!!! Therefore last but not least, Dean’s ending line. I’m sure it’s entirely meant to be taken in relation to the episode it’s in, still I personally have felt for a while that SPN may have 1 and half seasons left at most…

[lol-jackles]

I hope you don't mind, but I need to vent a little. I've been binge watching spn for a few months now (this is my first time watching the show btw) and I love the show so far. I'm on season 12 right now, and I'm a sam leaning bibro you could say: I love Sam and I love the brother codependency and I'm guilty of enjoying how much Dean's world revolves around his darling Sammy lol I'm also part of the fandom, but sometimes I feel like the fandom exaggerates just how "bad" the show has gotten? (1/?)

There was a well known quote about superfans: Nobody hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans do!  (Today it’s Nobody hates Marvel more than Marval fans!)

Basically this means that fans are so passionate about Star Wars that they scrutinize every minute detail because they want it so desperately to be perfect, or to at least evoke the same emotions when they first saw the original movie in theaters.  It boils down to looking at the past through rose colored glasses.

Superfans of [insert bands/series/fanchise] are always the ones who care the most, so they're also the ones who will be really critical of new material.  Most causal fans of [insert bands/series/fanchise] are “it was pretty enjoyable, some issues, some great stuff but overall pretty good”.  But to the superfans it’s a wide range of "I loved it, best one ever" to "Good but a lot of issues" to "Worst one ever & ruined [insert bands/series/fanchise] forever!".

Go ahead and totally skip 13x10 “Claire and the Failed Pilot” episode, it does adds nothing to the series and entirely unimportant.  Save yourself 45 minutes of your life.

Bitter Sam girls are just typical stans with blindspots to number 1 rule of story telling - “Protagonist Must Suffer to be Interesting” because of the number 2 rule of story telling - “Stories are about Things that Matters Happening to the Protagonist”.   

Stans get so caught up in their protagonist’s sufferings that they misinterpret the lack of appreciation or acknowledgement for said suffering by other characters to mean the protagonist is somehow not actually the protagonist.  I know, it’s weird but I’ve seen it happen all the time, just look at bitter Sam girls, they actually think SPN is equally about Sam and Dean.  Stans like these forget that The Protagonist are not supposed to be fawned over, they’re supposed to be challenged, abandoned, insulted, and regularly see their girl/boyfriends die in front of them. Hercules: The Legendary Journeys’ Hercules gets called “Jerkules” and had to watch two wives die.  iZombie Liv Moore gets called selfish and had to watch two boyfriends die.  Comic books Tony Stark gets called every name in the book and had to watch three girlfriends die.

As for your other observation, I think the bitter Sam girls may be “returning the favor”.   For well over a decade, the Sam girls had two sets of very vocal fandoms (Ackles Army and their protege Destiel minions) relentlessly going at them, because the Sam girls have what they very badly wanted, The Protagonist’s Story.  By calling any Dean and Cas screentime as “pandering”, it makes the character of Cas AND Dean invalid because they don’t actually contribute to The Story.