#Eva... Yeah... I can be attracted to people even if I'm in different to their smell but MAN if I sniff them and like it? Uoouh

[mrfoox]

Don't get attached so easily I say, as I'm already attached...

[seraphdesire]

Regarding Donna Beneviento and her characterisation in the fandom, I think it's important to note that she really isn't the shy awkward adorable blushing mess that everyone depicts her as being.

This got long but I did a mildly extensive read on her character under the break! :)

Here are the notes I took a screencap of, written by Mother Miranda, which talks about the suitability of Donna being a vessel for Eva:

There's the evidence you need that she is severely mentally ill, so babying her just feels... wrong anyway, all things considered.

Note - "and has divided her Cadou among her dolls in order to control them from a distance." While I'm on my 3rd replay of re8 I still don't fully get how the Cadou works, but what I think is essentially happening is Donna is literally splitting off parts of herself and putting them in her dolls.

The main one being Angie, of course.

I always used to consider Angie a separate character entirely but she's linked deeply to Donna on a very personal level. Considering what she's like and what all the other dolls are like - loud, funny, sarcastic, rude, etc - and how Donna is literally the one directly controlling Angie (that's the only way she moves lol, because Donna is carrying her places. Which is also why, when you kill Angie, the illusion melts away to reveal that you've actually killed Donna), I think it's safe to say that's what her actual personality is like.

Also, her only spoken line of dialogue? Please listen to it. For those who are hard of hearing, like me, she says: "don't leave... I can't let you."

Bearing in mind the way she speaks? Her tone? She sounds confident imo. Determined. And perhaps even a little angry at Ethan for thinking he can escape her.

Just a last addition as well, can I say that her abilities as one of the Four Lourds is genuinely evil? Everyone else has physical intimidation - Alcina has her height and her claws and mutation, Heisenberg has his ability to control magnetic fields and metal, and Moreau can mutate into that huge fish-with-legs thing that vomits something akin to acid? Oh yeah and he can swallow you whole too.

Donna, on the other hand, doesn't have physical intimidation like that. She only has the threat of psychological damage (which makes sense considering she's severely mentally unwell). When Ethan goes through her gardens and has to solve the puzzles in the house, she makes him hallucinate about his wife whom he thinks is dead, and about his baby who is somewhere in this unknown country with a bunch of mutants who only have bad intentions.

It's even worse in the Shadows of Rose DLC imo. As Rose, Donna makes her hallucinate the bullies from back home, being called a freak and a weirdo, made to relive the worst moments of her life. And the puzzles too? Hell. Having to actually recreate the scenes of her bullying with wooden fucking dolls. I remember feeling really sorry for Rose while playing through that part.

And yet Donna is still "the uwu baby" because what? I don't know. People love to declaw female villains just because they're attractive (looking at Lady Dimitrescu here). They love to reduce the characters down to their looks and not consider their actual lore or background or the role they play in the franchise (looking at Leon especially...)

Which, ya know, of course people are allowed their headcanons for characters and Donna doesn't get enough screentime to really have her personality even thought of, let alone to be made canon. But I think it's fair to say that Angie and Donna are basically one and the same because they're literally the same Cadou.

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[norgestan]

I'm getting really mad at the people that are cancelling SkamES because of the "panphobia" when it was stated multiple times that it's a line from OG Skam. Also, people just dont want to understand that this was probably a nod to Spain's society. It's said that the people(not the lgbt+ folks)in spain dont really get the difference between pan and bi. So this scene was to show that. pero no sé, qué opinás?

ha anon, do you want me to rant in spanish? (i mean, for the sake of my international followers i won’t, but it’s tempting)

as for skames... yeah. i think that a lot of s2 does things to bring light to the fact that nora isn’t the wise friend figure who holds the answer to every issue in the world. she’s wrong on MULTIPLE things throughout the season (telling cris she doesn’t have to put up with someone with a MI, the pansexuality thing, telling alejandro he only wants her bc she’s the only one who’s ever said “no” to him). and the pansexual scene isn’t an exception? she starts off strong, because she’s the preachy one, but at the end she ends up admitting that she’s not sure. and that’s EXACTLY what magnus says in og... and they’re both not wrong: pansexual and bisexual people are attracted to the same group of people, and nora, a spaniard teen who’s cisgender and straight and has probably heard the pansexual debate on her spaniard feminist circles, simply replied with her input on the subject. very on character with her, too.

i personally think it’s a great adaption of the scene to the girl squad. like, do you imagine anyone else but noora stepping in to correct the girls about what x term means? that was what noora was doing in og s2, anyways. furthermore, the scene establishes another one of nora’s problems that you can find on countless on other teens (even myself when i was younger, and nowadays too lmao) and across the internet, which is to jump in to explain a point about a touchy subject that you don’t really understand. with s3 in mind... i love it. just like the s3 scene of nora stumbling across her conception of feminism when her sister is being irresponsible as a way of trying to cope with her trauma/move past it. i don’t think the scene is framed to make it seem like nora is right, not with eva saying “the only thing that matters is that you’re happy” to close off the discussion.

and if it’s about whatever happened with the cast... i mean, if that’s the reason why we’re cancelling skam españa, then all the other remakes are going down, og included. actors, producers and directors are problematic and you’re never gonna escape that. i can hold people accountable for their mistakes while also enjoying the content they’ve participated in, because otherwise i wouldn’t enjoy absolutely anything in my life. and some skamverse fans love to turn a blind eye on their cast and even problematic plotlines within their remakes just to invalidate a remake who’s proven to be more well-written and compelling than the others.