#Fastest goal

[fruitless-vain]

Can we all agree that although training /has/ an end goal the fun of it /should/ be in the process

Ergo we should not be belittling people for exploring throughout their training, taking longer than you did, or even doing things in a bizarre order that /might/ lead to a sloppy result?

Because damn if half the fun of training isn’t trying to figure out how to get to the goal and having fun solving that riddle. Not everyone wants quick flashy behaviours that look a set way to some arbitrary expectations for sports and ribbons they’ll never participate in.

[phoenixcatch7]

Loz fandom stop being angsty and give the daydreaming kids on big fun adventures with a cool glowing sword some actual whimsy and joy challenge

[clearlydusty]

Uhhhhh so i just posted a thank you for 500 followers 7 days ago...

THANK YOU FOR 600 FOLLOWERS !!!! that was quick lol

Also I should say THANKS FOR MY FIRST 20k POST ?????? JESUS GUYS YOURE ALL INSANE FOR THAT I DONT DESERVE THAT AMOUNT OF NOTES BROOOOOO

[starrstruckcanuck]

CANUCKS HOCKEY RAHHHH 🔥🐋🔥🐋🔥🐋

[beatcroc]

oh my god damn

[trans-yllz]

there she is!!!

[m4x-smashstappen]

Lando, honey, I'm saying this with the most care possible due to Max liking you and saying you are his friend, you need to start using your brain and stop talking.

[boxoftheskyking]

I care about stats when it's a milestone that they hug about or it's a crazy story

I don't care about any other stats thanks

[badgirlcoven-official]

I know you can divorce a character from their bad writing I do this all the time this is not a "You're problematic if" post at all

But every time i see the bg3 twink now I'm like where's the option to violently kill him? Can I punch him? How to make him suffer in a way that doesn't make him look cool?? I need to do violence to the video game man and it's kind of comical

[specters]

ive been feeling sooo burnt out w work lately & my boss has been getting on me for not being fast enough but like 1) i honestly haven't gained back all my strength after top surgery bc i haven't felt motivated wrt working out these past months bc... I'm exhausted from my job. so it's hard for me to do certain things like before and 2) maybe i would be faster if i was being paid a livable wage but who's to say really

[iwonderwh0]

Is it funny that my insomnia got me into gym?

[tankgotstuckinthecircusgate]

writing young eddie is so fun (im projecting)

[endosexual]

GOD THIS IS PROPER FUCKING FOOTBALL DIED 15.06.2025 18:00 BORN 15.06.2024 21:00

[dirt-goth]

Why can't every big life decision ve accompanied with massive flashing neon signs which give you an apoximation on how each option will impact you. It would be way cooler that way.

[volfoss]

if all goes well, i should hopefully be done with the guide fully by dec 8th (depending on certain factors ofc. but finally sat down and planned it all out, my end of the year goal is most CERTAINLY attainable)

[rigelmejo]

"If I spend only 15 minutes a day on a language, what's the best use of my time, what will help the quickest?" Doesn't matter. Its the same answer as always: whatever study activities you can get yourself to do regularly for years, where you both encounter new stuff to learn regularly and practice understanding the stuff you learned.

I'm about to get in the weeds. But I really want to reflect on what is realistic, in terms of study time to plan for, to reach a long term goal like learning a language to the degree you can do many things in the language.

If a language is going to take 1200-3520 hours to learn (this is based on the FSI Estimates of how long to learn a language to around B2 takes for an English speaker to learn, with 1 week of study being 40 hours - a combination of 23 hours class study and 17 hours self study. Which is an easy estimate for people to find - note the actual hours of study, not just the weeks, 30 weeks at 15 minutes a day is way Different, than the 30 weeks at 40 hours a week or ~5.71 hours a day)

Then at 15 minutes a day, which is 0.25 hours per day, it will take you 4,800 days to learn an "easier" language (that's 1200 hours/0.25 hours a day = 4800 days). Or 4800 days/365 days in a year = 13.15 YEARS.

Now it's fine to take 13 years. In fact, many people will take a decade or more to learn a language. Most of us who took some language classes in school, and then did some self study in the following years, probably took 5-10 years total or more to learn the language enough to use it the way we want to.

So be realistic with yourself. Are you okay with it taking 13 years to reach your goal? If so, that's fine. It takes many people that long. But it won't be "quick" in terms of days or months or years.

If you are serious about learning a language to achieve a specific goal, honestly reflect on how much time you're willing to study daily on a regular basis. If it were say 1 hour, then 1200/1 hour is 1200 days to B2, or 3.29 years, which is now shorter than High School or a college Bachelors degree. 2 hours you can spend? 1200 hours/2 days per hour is 600 days or a little under 2 years at ~1.65 years. Less time than it would take to complete an Associates degree.

And if your specific goal isn't something as high as B2, such as A2 to travel to a tourist destination, or low B1 to start reading novels or watching shows while looking up words? Then you could reach your goal in probably half the time or less.

If you are good at making study plans, you may be able to reach your Short Term goal in even less hours, then in the following study hours spend them "doing your goal as you learn more."

Such as wanting to read (using my own short term goal as an example), you could work 1-2 hours a day to learn to read graded readers specifically, then increase the difficulty of graded readers gradually - now learning by reading which you enjoy more than the word/grammar study of the first few months, then start reading novels when you've worked your way up to them - continuing to learn reading by Reading which you enjoy. You could reach the goal of "reading graded readers" in a few months of 1-2 hours of study a day. And once you can read, then you can just continue reading as your study, which may be easier for you to do daily for 15 minutes for 13 years or 2 hours for another year, or however long it takes. Because you Enjoy reading, and it was your short term goal.

Now again, to be realistic, lets say you're an English speaker trying to learn Chinese. FSI estimates say it will take ~3520 hours, and some places like Mandarin Blueprint(which I'm not a fan of) estimate HSK 6 will take 5760 hours. Dang. Okay so if you only study 15 minutes a day, so 0.25 hours daily, let's use the smaller FSI Estimate. 3520 days/0.25 hours per day equals 14,080 days. Or 14080 days/365 days a year equals 38.58 years.

That's a lot of years....

Now to be fair, some people do spend that long learning and then reach their goal. Some people do spend decades. Are you prepared to spend that long learning? I doubt it, if you're using the word "quick."

Okay so lets say you decide to dedicate 1 hour a day. Then it would be 3520 hours/1 hour a day = 3520 hours, or 9.64 years. A decade isn't bad. That's more like what many people spend learning.

But lets say you want to do more for a shorter period of days, so you can get past studying to mainly using the language ASAP? Okay lets say 3520 hours/2 hours per day = 1760 days, or 4.82 years. That's only about as long as it takes to finish High School or a Bachelors degree. And 2 hours a day may not be that "hard," especially if you make a good study plan where you can start learning by doing What You Enjoy within a few months to several months. (As an example: me and the many other people who learned with the intention to read, and were able to read within a few months, and read webnovels from within 3 months to 1 year, and then able to jyst keep "learning" by reading regularly which we enjoy).

My point is:

1. a potential study plan to get you to a shorter term goal you want to do in the language, will help the most in making it easier to fit in regular study time for the long term. Because once you can do something in the language you want to do, you can keep doing the thing you enjoy in a slightly challenging way, to keep learning. So if you are looking at potentially a decade to learn to "ability to function in daily life in the language" then plan shorter term study plans for aspects of the language that you want to be able to do sooner. It will still take MANY hours to learn a language, but you can make most of those hours into things you enjoy doing. When I see a lot of intermediate learners who remain consistent, they've been able to put the language study into one of their other hobbies/interests. Intermediate level is going to take more hours to push through than beginner level, so finding a way to keep motivated for the long period of being intermediate will really be helpful.

2. If you want to learn to function in daily life in the language in a short amount of years, be realistic with yourself. 15 minutes a day probably isn't going to cut it. Consider 1-2 hours daily. Or more, if you really have the spare time in your day and want it to take as few years as possible. When I look at other learners, a lot of them consistently study at least 30 minutes to 1 hour daily on average.

Note: if anything, FSI Estimates are lower than the hours many people will need. You will waste some time with figuring out which study plans work for you, and which study materials to learn with. (If you think you'll struggle to plan and decide what to do a lot, then formal classes, and organized tutors who provide learning materials and structure, and pre-planned study materials other people already made and used successfully will probably help you save time. If you can be motivated with them. In the end though, whatever motivates you will be the quickest route for you though). Dreaming Spanish roadmap estimates are significantly lower than some FSI Estimates - and higher than others - and the progress milestone details in each Level may be of some use to reference. For figuring out when you could start reading easily, or watching shows, or watching hobby vloggers and reading their blogs, all activities which may make it easier to add the language to your normal daily hobby/interest time and stick with learning long term.