#I code switch into rich ppl spaces in such a way

[mcytrash]

You see, as a fellow professional bullshiter, I've got some respect for Lukey

His house currently has no furniture, but he did get flown to a foreign country to participate in a documentary premier, expenses paid by his contractor, just a few weeks ago. He got into college not for the classes (he already knew all of that) but as a way to live in London and network with bigger industry people, and it worked. Walks around with a random watch that is somehow mistaken by a collector's one. Wears nothing but black and white, says he doesn't know how enough fashion to commit to colors, but has multiple suits in his wardrobe and know how to properly wear them. Said he is from a countryside small town but speaks somewhat with a posh vocabulary. A social climber through and through, a trully fake it until you make it person.

[fligniuz]

i messaged earlier about how luigi used the r-word and i think i came off as like accusatory(?) but i def meant in the sense that if people are like "???" at the title of the twitter list like i am, luigi after all is a rich white man who grew up in rich, white, stem-focused spaces like yeah some "???" things are always going to come out of his mouth unfortunately LOL (happens w all my white friends, too, even the 'leftists' that mean well haha) i meant it like "oh he has used the r-word so the list name doesn't surprise me atp lol"

and you're right he didn't call other people the r-word, he said it in the context of max's actions! so my mistake there, but i also want to say that using offensive words w/ some people and not others is NOT what code-switching is and just saying it to "speak his language" doesn't make it okay or excuse it necessarily. i'm not saying everyone should have a problem with it! people can feel how they want! but at the end of the day its okay for people to dislike that he used it. i've always shared spaces and been friends with autistic/neurodivergent people who find that word offensive so that's how i feel. that doesn't make me dense lmao. i'm not saying he's a horrible person or anything- he is ""flawed"" just like every other human being and it's okay to point that out

nonnie i feel like we have gotten into a misunderstanding

i also do not like the r word point blank LOL, i find it to be ugly and unnecessary and i agree with you on that for sure. i wasn’t trying to make excuses for him, he’s a grown man who knows the impact of language. i understand if ppl are uncomfortable that he used it, i was too, that’s literally fine😭i’m not trying to invalidate how you feel about it

and i disagree about the code switching thing. if you are adapting your speech or aspects of it specifically so that the person you’re speaking with can understand your ideas in a way that makes sense to them, regardless of whether that speech is offensive or foul, that is the textbook definition of code switching. the term does not have to apply strictly to switching between dialects or languages, it can be used to describe broader interactions between people speaking the same language (like this one). the only reason i mentioned it specifically is because i personally always felt that his use of the word in those messages came off as unnatural and kinda forced. i don’t think he would have used it if he had been talking to a normal person in a different setting. but here’s the thing: am i really going to sit here and police the words a man uses if he’s telling another dude that being weird about women and minorities makes him come across like he has rocks for brains? just feels very unproductive imo. the word sucks but the context is the bigger picture

(and i want to clarify i do not think you are dense i wasn’t agreeing with that specific comment)

[kienansidhe]

hewwo i just sent an ask abt this to a kpop fandom writer and wanted to talk abt it here:

idc abt rpf rlly cause celebrities are fucking rich and they can just refrain from reading ppls fantasies on the internet and it doesnt affect them, but!! real, regular korean ppl in the diaspora are affected by the way kpop fandom talks about and writes about korean characters. obviously were not a monolith and some korean ppl dont rlly care but its deeply hurtful to me, as one queer korean american.

the writer in question runs a very enjoyable trans porn writing blog, but they recently made a post to check on interest in them posting some of their kpop fandom writing, with the names removed, but specifically because they wanted to use words like hyung and unnie. they said they wouldnt be fetishizing koreans or korean honorifics because they are actively studying korean.

studying our language and using our words correctly doesnt make cherry picking cute korean words for an otherwise english fic not fetishization, whether its porn or sfw. fetishization is not sexualization. it can be sexual, but fetishization is about the removal of pieces of a culture you think are cute or exotic or fascinating or what have you and using them for your purposes without the context of the people of that culture, their customs, their history, their lives, and their personhood. writing fic using korean words is literally just for aesthetic. its like kpop artists stealing black aesthetics and styles. its like nonblack people putting on aave to sound cool while disrespecting actual black people and having the ability to code switch back to sounding "respectable" and having the privilege from doing so.

writing vapid stories about supposedly korean characters where the only reason people know theyre korean is their names and a sprinkling of korean words is fetishization! its pasting a korean aesthetic on characters you have otherwise put no thought and research into.

and like. at the end of the day its not that huge a deal in fanfic spheres. ppl writing for fun on ao3 does not really materially affect the korean diaspora, a fic doesnt rlly need to be as heavily researched as a for profit novel going through a commercial publisher. but its incredibly alienating to find a space that is comfortable for my trans identity and then find that its weirdly obsessed with the aesthetic of my ethnicity. if they go forward with posting their fics im sure ill find other blogs, tho ill def miss their writing style and good trans porn is slim pickings already lol. like ill live. but its one more thing. one more thing in an ongoing stream of alienation ive dealt with my whole life, you know?

im not gonna harass and fuck with ppl who wanna write their fun little fantasies on the internet, esp if its on ao3 and properly tagged. but like. i rlly wish the kpop fandom would think harder about how theyre conceptualizing korean people and how theyre presenting us to others, and about how we feel when we see them trying on our aesthetics while if we have too heavy an accent or our names are too foreign we lose out on jobs. i rlly wish theyd think abt the way they shape a view of koreans as milky skinned half moon eyed skinny pretty boys and long legged dream girls, while everyday non-celebrity koreans are discriminated against, and admitting were korean almost invariably results in people asking what we think of x kpop group or kdrama, when we are so much more as individuals.

fetishization is pervasive and can seem trivial, but it truly blocks our ability to be seen as people, our ability to talk about our struggles in the diaspora, and our day to day mental health.

i am sick to death of kpop stans.