#I think I'm just afraid to Finally read mdzs. it feels like the Last Thing. because then what next in that fandom?

[baoshan-sanren]

So thanks to your metas I've finally read SV in like 3 days and now I'm back with a question. Let's say if hypothetically SJ and YQY talked things out and by some miracle SJ wouldn't abuse LBH, do you think that LBH would fall in love with SJ as well given that he'd always thought his Shizun was beautiful, elegant and untouchable. Do you think his feelings would grow into something more with time? I'm living for your takes on blnovels. Thanks in advance

Idk if you can start with SJ not abusing LBH, I think you would have to start with Qiu Jianluo not abusing SJ, or maybe even earlier than that, before he was sold into the Qiu household by human traffickers. To me, there’s no conceivable way where the same SJ who walks away from the carnage at Qiu's Mansion with Wu Yanzi, and later enters the Cang Qiong Mountain, would turn out to be some type of kind and benevolent shizun on par with SY. We don’t get a lot of detailed descriptions of his time with Wu Yanzi, but there is no indication that he enters Cang Qiong Mountain with any intention to give up his festering resentments, regardless of whether YQY can give him a reasonable explanation for never returning or not. 

Look, SJ found himself in the shitty situation in Qiu household because he had been trying to protect YQY. That, on its own, shows he was not yet the heartless villain that the later events would forge him into. But this particular rant of his is also very telling:  

“Of course it’s all your fault! I blame you. We weren’t close with those newcomers, so what if we were stepped on a little? Why did you have to play hero! Are you afraid that people like us with such lowly lives can’t bear it?! If you hadn’t played hero, why would I have helped you? If I hadn’t helped you, how would I have provoked him, and how would that Qiu guy have ended up buying me?! If he hadn’t bought me, how would I have become like this?! Every two days I get beat up a little bit and every three days I get beat up a lot━he plays me like I’m a dog!”

SJ is very young here, but the difference between him and YQY is starkly obvious. MXTX makes use of this dynamic, this clash of personalities, in both SVSSS, MDZS, and TGCF. “Why did you have to play the hero” should be familiar line to readers of MDZS too, and despite some fan opinions, it’s just not... what the so called “good guy” in the narrative would think, let alone say out loud. (Btw, TGCF is the only one of MXTX’s novels in which we see this type of character actually grow and change with time). Right off the bat, we see this very young SJ as someone who only values (and is willing to protect) those of immediate importance to himself, while YQY, as the typical “hero” of the narrative, tries to protect everyone and ends up harming the person he cares about in the process. You will find these two personality types thrust in these types of situations in 90% of danmei (and wuxia/xianxia) stories for a reason. You are supposed to know that YQY will end the tortured hero and SJ will end the blackened villain, the only differences being other related plot lines and their eventual downfall/redemption. (Or in MDZS’s case, absolute stagnation, which flies in the face of typical development for someone like SJ and apparently, confuses a lot of readers as well).

The second part I think is important to mention about that little rant up there is that SJ is already a person who takes no responsibility for his actions. YQY had “acted the hero” so SJ was forced to act as well, therefore his action is YQY’s fault. He is very young at this point, so no one expects him to be a paradigm of magnanimity, but at the same time, he never grows and matures out of this way of thinking. So SJ who enters Cang Qiong Mountain is already proficient at holding resentments and shifting all the blame for his misfortunes to others. At that point, even if YQY had explained how his haste to cultivate quickly had resulted in a qi deviation and the subsequent confinement, there is no indication that SJ would have found him any less guilty for failing to return in a timely manner. (Don't forget that one of the last admonishments SJ gives to YQY before they part is to stop being so brash. YQY doesn’t listen, which results in qi deviation, which results in SJ being stuck in Qiu household for years. It’s unlikely that SJ would find YQY blameless).

However, if you go back further than all the misery and abuse SJ suffered at the hands of Qiu Jianluo and change things (perhaps the human traffickers sell him into a different, better household, etc) then his path would probably diverge too drastically to continue onto the trajectory towards the Cang Qiong Mountain. 

Basically, I see two paths where SJ does not end up the exact heartless scum villain he is in PIDW:

SJ escapes with YQY and they enter Cang Qiong Mountain together. From their earlier relationship, we can infer that SJ is prone to guilt-tripping YQY for his decisions, and seeing himself as the wronged party whenever the situation doesn’t go his way. Would YQY still end up the Sect Leader with SJ by his side? If YQY had never qi deviated and SJ had never started his cultivation so late, would there be a noticeable difference in their skills and strengths? If SJ was more powerful, would YQY not willingly cede the Sect Leader position? And if he didn’t do so, would SJ hold resentment for it? Would the same level of resentment between SJ and LQG still exist? 

YQY manages to go back for SJ before the slaughter at the Qiu Mansion. At that point, SJ had been suffering abuse by Qiu Jianluo for years. Would he blame YQY for not coming for him sooner? For the fact that YQY’s tardiness meant he started cultivating late and may never catch up? If SJ’s resentment is the same and YQY’s guilt is the same, would their relationship be any better? People seem to think that SJ would have held so much gratitude for YQY’s (attempted or otherwise) return that he would wipe the slate clean between them, but this is the same person who had blamed YQY’s heroics for his own situation in the first place. Does that seem like the kind of person who would just... feel so much gratitude to let everything else go? 

And since only that SJ, the one who had lived with Qiu Jianluo’s abuse, who had slaughtered all of Qiu Manor and was further twisted and warped by Wu Yanzi, since that SJ took LBH on as a disciple out of jealousy and resentment and spite, wouldn’t it make more sense that a less villainous SJ would not give LBH a second glance? Rather than being a better shizun, is it not more fitting that he would have allowed LBH to go where he is likely to have gone without SJ’s interference, which is Bai Zhan Peak? 

To me, any possible scenario where SJ (at the moment he is watching potential disciples digging holes) happens to be a better person, is a scenario in which LBH does not become his disciple. 

So no, I don’t see any possible scenario in which LBH falls in love with SJ. I believe that SJ was meant to be seen as flawed from the very beginning, from the moment he had blamed YQY for “playing the hero,” and I can’t imagine any twist of circumstances that would make him similar to the type of person (SY) that LBH would fall in love with. 

[gizaoyas]

hi Marguax ~ Sorry I'm late this time. It's been a crazy week with school and work. I'm so sorry you had a bad week ;;; i hope it's gotten better or i'll throw hands with whoever is causing problems 😤😤

im not completely up-to-date with the current arc since i KNOW it's gonna hurt like hell lol ;; i just hope my favs will make it through (praying). now that i think about it, im not really caught up with any of the on-going mangas since school and work are just taking over my life lol. the last dr.stone thing i remember is that i wanted to give suika a hug lol.

my fav character is wei wuxian from mdzs. he has my whole heart and more <33. as for OP i like chopper lol he's so adorable ;;; for jjk i like gojo and dr.stone i like stanley (it's the white hair). i don't think it's a bad thing to have multiple favs. it just shows that you're invested in the show <33

i know OP is just gonna absolutely destroy me in the later arc ;;;; it's such a feel good show until it gets serious. i cried so much at nami's story 😭

i love the characters in mdzs! wwx is my fav gremlin <33 the animation is gorgeous and the story is so good. i just love it a lot 😭😭

that's so cold omg im barely living in 10c rn but it's good weather for sweaters so im not really complaining lol. i hope you're bundling up for the winter or i'll have to bundle you up myself 😤

i hope you'll have a lovely week ~ stay warm !!

Hello my dear Santa 💞

Dhdkzkdds don't worry, we're all busy at this time of year it's crazy!! 😩 Oh please don't be!! I had a lot of important decisions to take lately, so it made my week harder than it should have been, and it's not over yet 😪 ahhhhhh you're so cute thank you so much ❤️ but I will do it first 😏😏

EHZJZJJDD OKAY THEN I'LL SHUT MY MOUTH ; I don't want to spoil you anything so 😆 but the current arc of jjk really looks so interesting and crazy af at the same time, every chapters are soooo good to read I'm everytime like 🤩 but I'm afraid to be 😭 I'm praying for both of us that nothing happens to our favs

It's horrifying how busy we all are to even can't do what we want to do ; I wish you'll get more free time to finally catch up with all the things you want to, because in each on-going mangas, crazy things happen and woah, I wonder if authors spread the word to each others to make everything worst at the same time

DHZJZJS SUIKA DESERVES ALL THE HUGS OF THE WORLD , she's so tiny, so cute, so precious, we all want to protect her ahhh

Ohhh Chopper is your fav I- 😭 he's so cute, I feel like I want to protect him in the same way than I would do it for Suika ; but you know, he's a healer but 🔫 I see, you're a Stanley's fan as well 👀 I love him so much too, and can we talk about how precious is his relationship with Xeno ? 🥺 White hair is everything, no one can deny it

Oh I don't think it's a bad thing either, and exactly as you said, it shows how much you're invested into something!! But it's bad for the heart, because everytime something happens to one of your hundred favourites characters, you're like 🙃

Ahhh yes for sure it will 😩 i don't know what you know about what gonna happen later, and I sincerely hope you don't know that much things... Particulary one thing, and I'm pretty sure whoever starting with One Piece already knows, but I wish you don't know (OMG so many times I said "know" hdjsksbdbd) Nami's story 😭 ahhhh there are so many stories that will make you cry, but I will be here to cry with you and comfort you :')

Ahhh seems like you really adore him it's so cute!!! I wish I'll have more free time to start mdzs, without having so much things to catch up with at the same time 😩

Omg it's really cold this week where I'm living, we gonna have 1ºc and less announced for the end of the week, I'm wearing two sweaters and I 🥶 10ºc really feels like a hot weather to me!! Dhsjsks I won't miss to bundle up myself for sure, I already caught a cold during my two days off, and I don't want to be sick more 🤒

Take care of yourself Santa and don't catch a cold like me 😚