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#Just upload the damn thing to patreon ffs
keirosims · 5 months
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People who say their download links to patreon but when you get to the patreon page you’re met with a link to curseforge… like. Pretty scummy ngfl.
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lowcaloriesims · 3 years
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a rant
Maybe I’m in the minority, but I think that artists should have the options to get paid for the work they do. I’m glad that society has realized this, and doesn’t start witch trials for people that create CC and ask for some sort of monetization from it. I’m so glad that we have moved on from the days of the Sims 2 era, where it was basically illegal to ask for donations in anything a person created online at all.
Do I think that there are people who do scummy things? Yeah. I hate it when creators make cool looking CC and they attach ad fly links to their upload on sims file share. I also find it stupid when a creator deletes their content from all of the world because someone “stole their mod” and uploaded it to another site...when the content wasn’t even something that they created to begin with. It may be a fine line, but there are people who literally just reskin something actually create something by EA, and then call it ‘theirs’. I know that, if anyone were to even read this, they wouldn’t agree with me on this. And that’s okay. I just want to get this off my mind.
I find it really stupid how the community used to be even back in 2013-2014 era, which in some ways, wasn’t even that long ago. I remember back then how the sims community acted like the sims resource was the devil, and to never even look at things on there. In some ways, I feel like it’s still like that today. But I won’t deny that TSR does scummy things too. Like, without paying for a subscription, the timewall is awful. Won’t deny that. But I feel like we’ve moved on from ‘pay sites must be destroyed’ to ‘yeah. I can get behind donating to a creator because man, they’re fixing the game!’. Maybe if people like JMP didn’t act like donating to certain creators was the worst thing ever you could do, perhaps we could have seen better fixes to issues in TS2, and the early years of TS3. I chalk up his personality to the ‘Angry Gen X cool guy that has to be nihilistic and loud to be understood, and funny’.
I was just a young teen when the Sims 2 ended, and the Sims 3 started. So I wasn’t on the forums where all the drama took place, and at the age of 28, I still don’t know or understand a lot of the mentality behind it either. Reading what I can about that time period, from what hasn’t been taken down or left to go defunct (a lot of sites from the ts2 era don’t exist anymore), I just feel like the whole situation is stupid.
It is just so crazy to me that back then people were against sites that asked for donations. Like, no-one bothered to think how expensive it is to create a website, upload things to it, and keep the damn thing up? What I find most ironic is how JMP would create websites to pirate other peoples’ content, and yet no-one seemed to realize that it would even cost him money to do so. Maybe that fits more within his cause - he could create websites and not ask money for it. But I think that with time, the sites he had did not age well.
I was reading how there were people against ‘Around The Sims’, a great content creator, converter, and more. I just recently came across their website this year, despite playing TS3 on PC for over 5 years. I think that with the ‘Anti pay site’ mentality, creators like ATS were buried, despite having free content. Demonizing a creator like them makes no sense to me. Just because they have the option to donate doesn’t make them greedy. But in the end, look at where we are with our creators.
ATS is still around to this day. Lazy Duchess (who you can buy a coffee for) literally has fixes for two sims games. We have plenty of people that create content such as hair, clothes, and more, content you can still download for free, but if it’s your choice, you can donate to on patreon, kofi, or wherever.
The demonization of sites during the ts2 era largely left a lot of them to going defunct, and only recently being able to have been archived. There was actually some good content that a person would have had to donate to or pay for...and then it was lost forever because it was illegal to want a dollar. There were some sites that had a one time pay thing. And those were shit on too. It’s so stupid to me. Like, who cares if a person wants money. If you don’t agree with the content, just move on. Why create a mob mentality that is only going to hurt people?
There are some sources that state that it was against the TOS and copyright law for a person to sell CC of ts2. I need to find the actual documentation of this, because I get a feeling that some of mobs against donations were twisting the wording completely.
I’m just glad that we don’t shit on people for asking for a little help for the things they do. Maybe the community finally realized how hard it is to create things on a computer. Especially working CC, that isn’t corrupt, nor would corrupt your game. It’s ironic that Pescado created a mob mentality against other people, but no-one ever seemed to complain about him? One of the greatest faults with the items he’d create, such as the bat box, was that there was little documentation to help the player. In fact, it’s pretty impossible to find actual useful information on the FFS bat box, even on the sims wiki.
With the advent of the sims 3, there was the awesome mod for that, but JMP largely became defunct with ts3, especially when Nraas came around. I am so glad that the Nraas team are still around, and helping people today. If you ask for help with something from them, they actually help you, instead of bumping you on the head and calling you stupid. 
I guess it was a sign of the times. That’s just how things were back then. During the early 2000′s, everyone was an internet tough guy. JMP definitely was. There are remnants of mods from that era, which if you play with today are honestly super cringe now. idek, I’m just complaining about a whole different era. The Gen X internet generation was definitely not the same as how things are now. And I am so glad for that.
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