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#Levi doesn't like it but he knows confronting his sister and killing her will make him into Abdel 2.0.
demodraws0606 · 8 months
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Levi's hidden quote and how it could link with his possible motive for killing Arei
I gotta apologize to Levi for being so hellbent on believing he is the Chapter 2 killer but it just works way too well.
However of course a lot of things going against it is why would Levi do something like that or even kill her in such a gruesome way.
Now I believe the motive behind the murder is actually linked with Levi's hidden quote
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I mean considering how vague this quote is and what Levi's secret most likely is it could be directed towards the person he killed but I don't think that fits the bill quite well.
In fact this quote makes a lot more sense in the context of Levi killing Arei.
It's pretty obvious Levi and Arei both had each other's secrets meaning Levi knew about what Arei did to her sister and as far as we know he doesn't know the context this secret has unlike us.
Now Levi despite being disowned clearly cared about his family to the point where he is not mad at them for disowning him.
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It's possible that the murder he even commited was to protect his family or for them. Which would explain the line "we were all bad influences on one another". Levi is also known to be a protector, which again makes sense with the idea that maybe he was overprotective of his family and ended up killing someone for it.
Putting that aside, we should understand why Levi would have a negative reaction to Arei's secret without his understanding of why she did it.
It's not helped by the fact Arei acted incredibly unpleasant to everyone around her and he was actively told that she wasn't to be trusted.
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From Levi's point of view, Arei clearly is someone manipulative and who sheds fake tears. Why would he believe that she had actually a good reason for what she did to her sisters ?
Not to mention that Levi in this chapter clearly is having an entire arc during the second chapter about him wanting to be forgiven by Ace. However the conclusion of this arc before the trial leads to Levi completely giving up on trying to redeem himself.
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(I'd argue this moment specifically is when Levi finally becomes capable of committing murder)
In my eyes his murder of Arei was a crime of passion, and although the way the murder is presented contradicts this we also have the possibility of someone (*cough* DaVid *cough*) tempering with the crime scene but that's another theory for another time (or tbh Levi himself could've tempered with it).
It's possible Arei and Levi confronted each other about their secrets, leading to him killing her by breaking her neck.
Maybe he wasn't believing her explanation or trusting the she actually became a better person.
Why would she be allowed to apologize and make everything better when he tried that so many times and was only met with rejection.
And that's what the secret quote means, he only judged Arei based on her actions because he was told time and time again that words weren't enough. That apologizing and saying that you'll change means nothing.
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All of this leads me to believe that this chapter is about : redemption and trust
Arei wanted to improve and grow as a person, she wanted to finally become someone who could be kind to others.
She hurt Eden badly, blaming her for everything because she couldn't fathom the fact that someone like her could even exist. The way she talked to Eden was horrible, but she regrets it and clearly wanting to undo the wrong she did to her.
Eden despite her doubts, clearly believes her considering her strong reaction towards the idea that she could've even though of killing herself. Arei's apology went through Eden.
Now, what character has tried to do the same but constantly failed ?
Levi
He snapped and said something horrible to Ace, something he regrets just like Arei. He wants to apologize and redeem himself for it but he isn't allowed to. Unlike Eden, Ace isn't willing to accept it.
He is taught that trying to say sorry or saying you'll change won't do anything.
And now we're back to his secret quote
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His justification for killing Arei was that he didn't believe she was worthy of redemption or simply didn't believe she was going to redeem herself in the first place. After all, all of her actions lead to her being a truly dispicable person so why would he suddenly believe that she wants to redeem herself, especially someone like Arei ?
However in this quote it's stated that he aknowledges that it's just a poor excuse, a poor excuse for his heartlessness, for having killed Arei.
Now the one thing contradicting this analysis is the use of the word "always" meaning that it's a belief Levi always had so why did him getting rejected suddenly lead to him to believe that Arei's apology wasn't enough ? Well either way I don't think weither it was a belief he always had or was something he was taught through chapter 2 really disproves my thoughts on him killing Arei but it's possible his belief was amplified or "triggered" by what happened in chapter 2.
Either way yeah, I'm sorry Levi, you will not escape the guilty verdict in my mind, it just fits way too much thematically.
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penancepropulsionn · 1 year
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hello i'm some nobody with a drdt theory
while i've seen a lot of speculation around ch2's culprit, be it hu, levi or whoever, i actually still have a lot of suspicions around arturo i think most people view arturo as in the clear given how early he was incriminated in the trial, and while that makes sense there's still something that's bothering me i assume most people know but on each characters' page, there's a secret quote hidden in the source code. arturo's is "You hated them, but even that doesn't justify what you did." i'm thinking that arturo may have learned of arei's motive secret, and that on top of how she caught his ass threatening eden, was the straw that broke the camel's back. he kills arei, given her mistreatment of her sisters, as some kind of justice or tying up of loose ends he had with his own sister, potentially not knowing the full story and thinking of arei as the abuser in that situation arei's own secret quote was only said in a flashback so arturo saying his in a flashback where he confronts and kills her is totally in the realm of possibility if this were the case however i think it'd kind of suck ass. arturo is my favorite character in despair time and i'd honestly hate to see him go so soon, and so underwhelmingly at that. we've seen very little of his backstory, very little development. we didn't get very much from min either though so :/ despair time is very well written so far so i imagine they could stick the landing with it but it's a tough sell. they're gonna have to do a lot to make the premise of the weird stalker-ish guy being a murderer not super boring. like at least min was tragic, arturo has been almost completely unsympathetic this entire time lmao i don't know if it's exactly likely but it's been bugging me. while i'd hate to see arturo go, seeing this crackpot theory of mine would be pretty satisfying... decisions decisions
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dukereviewsmovies · 4 years
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Duke Reviews: Thor Ragnarok
Hello, I'm Andrew Leduc And Welcome To Duke Reviews Where We Continue Our Look At The Marvel Cinematic Universe...
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Where Today We Are Looking At The 3rd Outing For Thor And The Second For The Hulk In Thor Ragnarok..
This Film Finds Thor And Hulk On The Planet Sakaar Where They Must Escape So They Can Stop Thor's Sister, Hela The Goddess Of Death And The Impending Ragnarok, Will They Succeed?
Let's Find Out As We Watch Thor Ragnarok...
The Film Starts In Muspelheim, Where Thor Has Been Captured By A Being Named Surtur (Voiced By Mr. Krabs)...
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I Wish I Were Kidding...
Anyway, Surtur Taunts Thor, Telling Him Not Only That Odin Is Not On Asgard But That In His Absence Asgard Is Vulnerable For Him To Unleash Ragnarok By Getting The Eternal Flame From Odin's Vault...
Calling Mijolnir To His Hand, Thor Breaks Out Of His Chains And Fights Surtur's Minions...
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(Start At 2:53, End At 4:18)
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(End At 1:37)
Returning To Asgard, Thor Meets Heimdall's Replacement, Skurge (Played By Leonard McCoy) Who Tells Him That Heimdall Has Been Declared An Enemy Of The People And Is On The Run. Upset By This News, Thor Goes To See His Father "Odin" Who Is Watching A Play About The Death Of Loki...
Which Has An All Star Cast Including, Luke, Brother Of Thor As Well, Thor, Dr. Alan Grant As Odin And Some Guy Jimmy Kimmel Never Has Time For As Loki...
Seeing Through "Odin's" Deception, Thor Forces Him To Reveal Himself For Who He Is And What A Shock, It's Loki. Taking Him To Earth, He Shows Thor Where He Sent Odin But Unfortunately The Retirement Home He Placed Him In Has Been Demolished...
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Taking A Little Time To Talk With His Brother, We Learn As They Do Talk That Thor Broke Up With Jane, Saying That It Was A Mutual Breakup. However, Loki Is Sent Somewhere By Someone Who Leave A Card With An Address To The Sanctum Sanctorum...
Meeting Doctor Strange (Played By Smaug The Terrible) We Get A Version Of The Doctor Strange Mid Credits Scene That Involved Thor And It's Aftermath With Strange Discovering That Odin Is In Norway. Releasing Loki From Where He Sent Him, Strange Sends Thor And Loki To Norway...
Finding Odin, The 2 Brothers Discover That Odin Released Himself From Loki's Spell He Placed Upon Him But He Is Dying And His Time Is Limited As He Tells Them That Hela, The Goddess Of Death, Who Is The Sister They Never Knew Will Be Released From Her Prison When He Dies And That She Is More Powerful Than Both Of Them Combined...
So, Telling His Sons That He Loves Them One Last Time, Odin Dies, Transforming Into Pure Energy...
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Angered At Loki For Causing Odin's Death, Any Thoughts Of Vengeance Are Set Aside For The Moment As Hela (Played By Cate Blanchett) Is Released From Her Prison But When The 2 Brothers Refuse To Bow To Her Hela Attacks Them Creating Spears To Fight Them...
Throwing Mijolnir At Her, Hela Just Grabs It And Shatters It As Loki Calls The Bifrost But During Their Return Trip, Hela Throws Both Loki And Thor Out Of The Bifrost. Making Her Way To Asgard, Hela Is Met By Volstagg And Fandral Who She Kills On Sight...
Well, It Makes Signing With The DCEU To Do Shazzam Easy, Right, Zachery Levi?...
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Recruiting Skurge To Her Service, Hela Starts Her Takeover Of Asgard As We See That Thor Landed On A Planet Covered In Trash And Wormholes Called Sakaar, Where He's Confronted By Hostile Scavengers Which Thor Manages To Fight Off Till One Of Them Uses An Electrified Net On Him So They Can Beat Him To A Pulp..
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But When A Spaceship Lands, A Drunk Woman (Played By Tessa Thompson) Says Thor Is Hers And Fires Her Ship's Guns At The Scavengers Obliterating Them...
Thanking This Woman, She Doesn't Reply And Just Places A Small Disc That Allows Her To Electrocute Thor And Render Him Unconscious At The Touch Of A Button Oh, It Also Prevents Him From Escaping...
Back On Asgard, Hela Faces Asgard's Armies, Led By Hogun Who Will Bow To Her Rule Even When She Tells Them About Odin's Death And That She Has Taken Care Of Thor And Loki, So She Kills Them All...
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Wow, A Whole Army And They Couldn't Even Stop Her?!? Boy, Asgard Sucks!
Meanwhile On Sakaar, Thor Awakens To A Holographic Presentation (With Pure Imagination From Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory In The Background, Why?) About Sakaar And The Grandmaster (Played By Ian Malcolm)
Wait A Minute, Dr. Alan Grant And Ian Malcolm Are In The Same Movie And They Don't Have A Scene Together? I Want A Refund!
Anyway, The Grandmaster Is Not Only The Ruler Of Sakaar But Is The Host Of The Gladitorial Contest Of Champions. Buying Thor From The Drunk Woman, So He Can Pit Him Against His Champion In A Battle Saying That If He Wins He Will Earn His Freedom...
Still Restrained, Thor Discovers Loki In The Grandmaster's Company Who Tells Thor That He's Been There For Weeks Earning The Grandmaster's Favor And Is Fitting In Rather Nicely Apparently...
Thrown Into The Gladiator Quarters, We Meet The Funniest People In This Movie, Korg (Voiced By The Director Of This Movie, Taika Waititi) Who is A Kronan And His Friend A Bug Named Miek Who Has Scissors For Hands...
And I Absolutely Love Them!
Anyway, Despite Telling Thor That No One Has Beat The Grandmaster's Champion, Thor Gets Ready To Fight This Man....
Back On Asgard, Hela And Skurge Go To The Throne Room Where Hela Reveals By Destroying The Royal Mural, Another Mural Showing That She Used To Be Odin's Most Powerful Weapon In His Efforts To Create A Powerful Asgardian Empire, But When Her Ambition Outgrew Odin's He Imprisoned Her...
Going Down To Odin's Vault, She Declares Most Everything There To Be Fake, Before Looking At The Casket Of Ancient Winters, Surtur's Crown And The Tesseract Before Looking At The Eternal Flame Which She Uses To Revive The Fallen Soliders From Her Time And Her Pet, The Fenris Wolf To Help Her In Her Conquest...
As Thor Picks His Weapon To Fight The Grandmaster's Champion, He Runs Into The Drunk Woman That Sold Him To The Grandmaster Where He Realizes That She Is An Asgardian Valkyrie, But Unsympathetic To The Plight Of Asgard, Thor Calls Her A Coward Before Being Taken To Get His Hair Cut By Stan Lee...
Stan Lee Cameo!
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Before The Fight...
Taken Out To The Stadium Afterwards, Thor Meets The Grandmaster's Champion, Who Happens To Be The Incredible Hulk To Loki's Displeasure And Bad Memories...
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Overjoyed To See His Teammate, Thor Attempts To Negotiate With The Hulk But Makes A Mistake When He Accidentally Calls Him Banner...
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Back On Asgard, Hela Sits On Her Throne and Talks With Skurge Stating That When Odin Was King She Was His Executioner And Now Skurge Is Hers...
Going To The Bifrost With Her Soldiers, Hela And Skurge Discover The Bifrost Sword Missing Which Means One Thing, Heimdall Has Returned And Has Taken It From Them, Stopping Hela From Conquering All The Realms For Now...
Attempting To Round Everyone Up To Discover Where Heimdall Is, Hela Sends Her Soliders Including The Woods But While Chasing Some People, Heimdall Arrives And Kills Hela's Undead Soliders Before Taking The People Back To His Hideout In The Mountains Where He Has Been Organizing A Resistance Against Hela...
Finding Himself In The Lap Of Luxury With A Naked Hulk...
Which Is Something I Never Wanted To See...
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He Tells Thor That He Arrived In The Quinjet He Stole From Ultron In Age Of Ultron, And That He's Not Going Back To Earth As Here He Is Respected, Where On Earth...
Well, Let's Just Say The Bad Hulk Has Done On Earth Has Kind Of Outweighed The Good He's Done At This Point In The MCU...
Upset At This, Thor Tries To Leave But Gets Shocked By A Force Field On The Door Meant For Him. So, With Hulk Going To Train With Valkyrie, Thor Tries To Mentally Reach Heimdall Who Tells Thor Some Stuff I've Already Said, That He's Working On Evacuating People From Asgard And That They Don't Have Much Time...
Later That Evening, Thor Is Mad At The Hulk But It Eventually Leads To A Bonding Moment Between The 2 That Gets Hulk To Help Thor Talk To Valkyrie, To Try To Convince Her To Help Again And To Steal The Control Device So He Can Release The Disc On His Neck...
Breaking Through The Window, Thor Makes For The Quinjet (Which Is Still In Good Shape For What It Is) But The Hulk Starts Wrecking The Ship When He Doesn't Want Thor To Go...
Because If He Goes, It's Just Him And Valkyrie!
However, When Thor Comes Across An Old Video Of Black Widow Trying To Contact The Hulk From Age Of Ultron, Hulk Starts To Turn Back Into Banner Who's Been The Hulk Since Sokovia Which Leads Banner To Freak Out...
As The Hulk Had Completely Taken Over And He Has Absolutely No Memory Of The Past Few Years Which Has Him Start To Fear That If He Becomes The Hulk Again, Banner Won't Come Back...
Back In The Grandmaster's Chamber, He Gives Loki And Valkyrie Orders To Find Thor And The Hulk, But After Loki Shows Valkyrie A Vision Of Herself And Her Sisters Against Hela All Those Years Ago Which Ended With Only Her Surviving To The Point That She Drank To Try To Drown Her Misery, She Decides To Help Thor And Banner Escape...
Kidnapping Loki, He Tells Thor That His Favor With The Grandmaster Has Paid Off And That He Has All The Security Codes To The Grandmaster's System All They Need To Do Is Take Him With Them. However As Thor And Banner Decide To Take Loki Or Not Valkyrie Tries To Find A Way Back To Asgard But Thor Tells Her That The Only Way Back Is Through The Devil's Anus...
That Looks Absolutely Nothing Like Kathy Bates' Nude Scene From About Schmidt...
Only One Problem, Valkyrie's Ship Will Never Survive It Which Leads Them To Release Korg, Miek And The Other Prisoners From Their Cells...
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But Despite Helping Thor Get To The Grandmaster's Luxury Ship, The Commodore Which He Only Uses For Orgies Apparently...
Aww, Man! Now I'm Going To Have That Image Of Jeff Goldblum At An Orgy In My Head For Hours, Thanks Thor Ragnarok!
Loki Betrays Thor, Sounding The Alarm As He Escapes But Knowing He Would Thor Placed The Same Disc That Valkyrie Placed On Him On Loki, Saying To Him That He Will Always Be The God Of Mischief But He Could Be More...
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Going Through The Devil's Anus, They Arrive At Asgard Just As Hela Is About To Assault The Fortress Where Heimdall Is Hiding People From Asgard, But When Thor Calls Her Back To The Throne Room, Hela Faces Off Against Thor...
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Realizing That The Destruction Of Asgard Was Inevitable, Thor Thanks Loki For Returning For Him And The 2 Brothers Reconcile, Before Taking The Captain's Chair And Assuming His Birthright As King Of Asgard With His Friends And Family By His Side As They Set A Course For Earth...
We Get A Mid Credits Scene Where Loki Wonders If He Will Be Welcome On Earth After Everything He Did In The First Avengers Movie But With Thor Telling Him That He'll Deal With Everything But Not Before Dealing With A Giant Spaceship That Will Ruin The Happy Ending That Came From This Movie...
We Also Get A End Credits Scene With The Grandmaster Confronted By The People Who Used To Be His Slaves As He Tries To Declare A Draw To No Success...
And That's Thor Ragnarok And It's The Best Thor Movie Ever!
The Story's Great, The Characters Are Great And Hillarious And I Like Hela As The Bad Guy But I Think They Shouldn't Have Had Skurge The Executioner In This Movie Without The Person He Actually Serves, The Enchantress (Yeah, I Know They Had A Character Called Enchantress In Suicide Squad But Marvel's Enchantress Is Alot More Sexier Than Her) But Aside From That Criticism I Defiantly Say, See It...
Till Next Time, This Is Duke, Signing Off..
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