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Tag Dump Part 4

Yeah. I need a 4th part of this. Ahahahaha. Help.

[weaselbeaselpants]

Hazbin/Helluva are hated for the exact same reason they’re loved:

Before I begin I need to repeat something and that’s that you please, kindly, DO NOT BOTHER ANYONE WORKING ON THE SHOW WITH THIS POST. I don’t care if you’re a fan looking for their opinion or a “critic” looking for their response. THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING HARD, THIS IS NOT A CALL OUT POST IT’S JUST FAN DRIVEL LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE OKAY?!?!?

okey

Here are the facts of the matter:

Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are independently produced cartoons made by a bunch of people juuuuust breaking in on the animation market, and/or internet famous artists having fun with the world they’re producing. The creator, like her style or not, is inspired and VERY passionate about what she likes and what she wants. Everyone working on the show is really into it and their work. It’s such a self-made fandom it was technically a fandom first and a product second. Fans feel like they (and technically do) have a say in how the show should be run and what the characters should be.

It is popular enough to attract attention online but not overblown by the mainstream media.

On the positive side all those things mean:

It’s crew is tight-nit and very passionate + stick up for each other and their projects. It’s basically a giant colab. Whether they were preexisting fans/friends of Viv, the people working on it got to work on something they liked and with people they liked.

The animation community is super pumped and excited for them be they fans of the animators or just people who like cartoons and monsters and stuff. They’re positively skeptical and in on the hype cause they want to see more fluid adult animation and more indie projects take off (also 2D)!

It’s fandom LOVES the characters, concept, and story. They are more invested in what the characters could be rather than what they actually are, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing; to love something based on the concepts presented and use it to make AUs, hypotheticals and what not. Cringe all you want at the Onceler fandom (you can) but it is impressive to make all that material from so little!

They’re both edgy and insensitive based on their subject matter alone. And yet, the creators and fans DO intend for the show to be a net-positive: there IS supposed to a be representational aspect to it’s design and it’s audience. Brandon Rogers, the modern John Waters, is a pure shock-humor artist; an example of the sincere but not TOO serious risque nature these shows should have, and BOTH attract a pretty happy and excitable LGBTQ fanbase who hate bigotry.

The creators directly talking with fans means there’s again a sense of togetherness to the whole production. That the creators tell people to ship what they want BUT NOT TO BULLY is really cool + important.

As an aside, they can only say so much and Viv is at this point not 100% of Hazbin or Helluva’s creation. It’s other people speaking for or with it now. Neither pilot is a singular idea and musing of one person anymore, they are stand alone products and they are not immune from critique or favoritism.

Buuuuuuut, there’s a flipside to these things as well:

Beyond NDAs (as an aside, a lot of productions have these I don’t think it’s amoral that Viv had this) the crew is tight. When they hear how a site that they’ve heard through the grabevine hosted the guy who sent Viv rape porn*, even if the critique is from a user who hates that guy, THEY AREN’T GONNA HEAR THEM OUT. And they shouldn’t. They are tired and don’t want to be involved, at best (or want to move on from past drama) and biased towards Viv, at worst. They stick out for each other in the business and also who are you gonna stan if you were in their shoes? A person you don’t know on a forum you’ve seen post creepy shit OR your friend who paid you, promos you, talks to you and you like to work with?

Ask yourself honestly what you would do if someone said:

“hey I’m from [4chan/Kiwi, ED, Tapatalk, Reddit, ect]. I’m sorry for what happened but just so you know-”

I so get the crew just straight up blocking on sight. I don’t CONDONE it, but in a postGamerGate world I understand it.

AND when it comes to accusations made against the VAs, a producer, or one of the artists, and ESPECIALLY the creator - people are gonna just handwave it away convinced, it’s just whining or has alterier motives + again, friends stick together and choose sides...like Brock Baker’s :B

It’s popular so it’s gonna get love and hate. I know critics are not gonna like to hear the later, but it is true. It feels cathartic to dunk on a property when fans are crazy and you feel it’s overrated/bad. People feel good dunking on this mishandled, problematic clusterfugg cause they know not as many people are watching and unironically liking, say, Alfred Alfer ----- (please don’t look that or Emily Youcis up. Here’s the tvtropes page. Do not look beyond this point PLEASE)

Likewise, the clout surrounding the show is biased and detracted form being too mean as well. Everyone can tell there’s a kind of toxic mess under the covers but no one wants to deep dive or prod the details of something people are working on and liking so much, especially not when the loudest detractors are asshats like P.K. Russel.

A lot of merch has been sold and produced WELL BEFORE the rest of the shows or the finalized series/designs have been laid out. If nothing comes of either show it will be bad having all this merch hyping something that doesn’t exist. If it does but is so radically different than the vision in Viv’s and fan’s heads (these are both PILOTS, I’ll remind you) it’s gonna disappoint. I just know it.

People were writing Hazbin fanfics and AUs before the pilot was dropped and have made sequels to both before we have even a clear picture of what the ending is gonna be. People are in love and writing for a franchise they don’t know. They know the idea of it and the version of it in their head, but they don’t really know it.

The fandom can not take criticism. This is bad. Everyone is a critic and inside every critic is a nerdooo ~ ((critics do have fandoms and everyone will like something problematic for reasons)) Fans want to criticize but they’re scared of being ostracized from the fandom and kicked off of forums/servers, which has happened to two underage fans already. **

The fandom feels entitled to their ideas and to the creators’ attention. If it were any other fandom it is sooper cool that creators allow people to ship as they please, but not one that’s currently still in development and whose finalized characters haven’t been figured out. The babies have been sent into the battle field at only a few months old alongside veteran ship/canon/entitled cartoon fandoms like Steven Universe and Rick and Morty. It’s like the scene from mother! where the crowd dismembers and eats the baby.

Viv and has a serious influence on these people so even when her and a bunch of fans/artists are just gabbing about stupid memes on twitter, this invites a slew of onlookers to attack these people***. Despite the influence you can have or say to stop this behavior, it’s waaaay harder to put a stop to it than just saying “hey guys be nice” (Anyone else remember the inner-drama of Brony fandom? Like chuds would even take the word of the AskMolestiaMod to heart when their one goal was to take down the dreaded Essjaydoublewes that threatened their rape jokes).

Fans also have no boundaries. Sea also; Lincar Rox.

Being a netpositive doesn’t mean everything you say or do is devoid of critique. If you make vulgar/shocking adult content it will have fans and it will have detractors regardless of the positive intent. As I’ve said earlier, the problem with Viv’s works isn’t really the content but the context and the presentation. You can say Angel Dust is an inspiring character all you want. To some people that’s absolutely true but that does NOT absolve the fact that the it’s a cis woman writing and glamorizing an abused crossdressing gay man. People are gonna be offended and the creator needs tougher skin about this be it satire, parody, or drama.

*back when they were fixated on Zoophobia, there was a guy on Bad Webcomics Wiki/Tapatalk for the comic who posted art of Viv’s decapitated head getting raped by Angel Dust as a “joke”. Oh! and he also took the complaints the wiki had and made Viv and ED page. The rest of the forum was not happy but yeah that happened. The forum itself is the same as any reddit thread and NOT a hate site, but yeah um Viv has every right to quit after that, sorry.

The evidence is linked here in this google doc, which is why I linked it. (tbh I sympathize with the author but I don’t think it’s their place to say when Viv should have let the world known about the harassment porn )

**the underage fans who were bullied/blocked/demonized by creators are frootrollup1, for doing redesigned fan art, and StarVader from the Tapatalk/BWW forums, who was targeted and blamed by fans for Lincar’s shit. I’m not linking them for fear of their safety.

***The meme and twitter thread that went off the rails is one you’ll have to scroll down a bit through @gamergirluprising‘s post to see.

Okay that’s all.

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[californiaprelawland]

California’s FAIR Education Act

By Noah Stark, University of California, Davis Class of 2022    

April 7, 2022

After discussing Florida’s so-called “Don’t Say Gay” bill, as well as the history of similar legislation in several other states in the previous article, I wanted to delve into a situation that explores the alternative route states have taken with regards to LGBTQ education in public schools. While many progressives decry the actions of the Florida governor and state legislature, such powerful institutions can simultaneously enact developments championed by progressive activists and lawmakers, and fiercely opposed by conservatives. Much like many of the states that passed ‘no promo homo’ laws, California has a particular ideological majority which dominates its lawmaking process — and like in other states, this did not stop the “minority” from attempting to stall these measures. The FAIR Education Act of 2011 is quite different from Florida’s Parental Rights in Education bill of 2022, yet interesting parallels can be found in reaction to the bill as well as the various ongoing attempts to destroy the measure.

Senate Bill 48 — otherwise known as the FAIR Act — gets its nickname from the acronym made up of the words Fair, Accurate, Inclusive, and Respectful. [1] And although this article focuses on LGBTQ education due to the close parallels with Florida’s anti-LGBTQ education bill, California’s legislation includes instruction on teaching about other under-represented groups. This includes Native, Mexican, Pacific, African, and many other Americans. The goal of this inclusivity was to “portray the role” these groups played in “contemporary” society. But why did the authors and supporters of this bill seek to implement it in the first place? Under preexisting California state code, public schools could not “provide instruction or sponsor activities that promote or reflect bias or discrimination against any person on the basis of their sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, or gender.” [2] But this bill takes such a principle one step further and requires the teaching of “the role and contributions of LGBT Americans throughout history.” Unlike the Florida bill, which mirror many other ‘no promo homo’ laws in that it forbids teaching certain subjects, FAIR does the opposite, compelling the instruction of various segments of American history. However, the bill is quite similar to Florida’s with regards to the amount of pushback it received from opposition groups.

California has elements of direct democracy — citizens can bring forth ballot initiatives, which are voted on by the state as a whole — which means that regardless of the makeup of the state legislature, individual Californians can influence the policies and programs of the state. After the FAIR Act was passed by the state legislature, opponents took action to stop it through the ballot intuitive system. A self-described “coalition of pro-family organizations, parents, students, teachers and more,” called ‘Stop SB 48’ launched a signature collection effort to gather the nearly half-million required to place the measure on the ballot. [3] They immediately started fundraising and reaching out to potential supporters, while “statewide equal rights groups” took similar actions to combat their efforts through educating Californians on what the “FAIR Education Act does to advance equality.” Just like in states like Florida in 2022, 2012 Californians waged war over a controversial piece of legislation — and California saw opponents seek change through official legislative channels. Florida has a much more simplified version of the ballot initiative system, so it is unlikely that a referendum on their respective bill would be passed along to the voters. However, one important question remains — why was there no major lawsuit filed against California regarding the constitutionality of their law?

While Florida could see their bill torn to pieces in a court of appeals, California’s FAIR Act has avoided such legal actions since its passage. Firstly, SB 48 amends California’s existing legal code — an action of which the government is fully permitted. [4] Additional components of the bill add details forbidding acts of discrimination based on “race or ethnicity, gender, religion, disability, nationality, or sexual orientation,” or other characteristic — also allowed by California’s constitution. Private schools, are merely required to follow the state’s guidelines regarding discrimination, as updated by SB 48. While the bill also requires public school districts to use textbooks which “accurately portray the cultural and racial diversity of our society,” this is a compelling action, not outright forbidding the teaching of certain topics, which Florida’s Parental Rights in Education bill seeks to accomplish. By attempting to outright censor certain information, Florida’s bill reveals its enormous legal weaknesses. Like what happened in South Carolina or any other number of states that used to have no promo homo laws, it is likely that DeSantis will need to defend his bill in a high court. And while California’s FAIR Act mirrors the Parental Rights in Education bill — especially with regards to public reaction — it ultimately differs heavily in what it is asking schools to change. Compelling action by changing the education code is dramatically different from outlawing the instruction of several topics.

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Noah Stark has studied Political Science for 4 years at the University of California, Davis. He plans to attend law school in California in fall 2022, with the intention of becoming an appellate lawyer. 

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 [1] “Fair, Accurate, Inclusive, and Respectful Education Act.” Sacramento City Unified School District. Accessed April 5, 2022. https://www.scusd.edu/fair-education-act.

[2] “Lgbtq Student Rights.” ACLU Southern California. ACLU of Southern California, 2022. https://www.aclusocal.org/en/know-your-rights/lgbtq-student-rights.

[3] McDonald, Patrick Range. “Stop SB 48 Campaign Seeks To Repeal California's Gay History Law.” LA Weekly. July 25, 2011. https://www.laweekly.com/stop-sb-48-campaign-seeks-to-repeal-californias-gay-history-law/. 

[4] California State Legislature. Senate. SB-48 Pupil Instruction: Prohibition Of Discriminatory Content FAIR EDUCATION) Act of 2011. SB 48. Introduced in the Senate July 14, 2011. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201120120SB48. 

Photo credited to “Fair, Accurate, Inclusive, and Respectful Education Act.” ; “Effort to Repeal California Gay History in Schools Officially Fails.” Austrostraddle, October 13, 2011.

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Drakengard 2 [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The New Breed

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Modern [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Only World Where We Can All Be Ok

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Alstroemeria

Young Alstroemeria [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Neglected Princess

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Helia

Young Helia [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Young Priestess

Helia’s Prime Days [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Shining Dawn

Helia’s End [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Fading Glimmer

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Elvira

Young Elvira [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Abandoned In Winter

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Elvira’s Recovery [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Beginning of The Everlasting Witch

Present Elvira [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The World Traveling Witch

16B

16B’s Roll Out [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Beginning of The Battler

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Logic Virus 16B [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Crimson Eyed Virus

Sofia

Young Sofia [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Abandoned Child

Present Sofia [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Enigmatic Assassin

Lucretia

Present Lucretia [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Head of the Church of Veina

Cora

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Present Cora [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Wandering Vigilante

Soleste

Present Soleste [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Emerald Noblewoman

Sapphira

Young Sapphira [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Lady of House Alinac

Present Sapphira [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Crimson Killer

Opal

Young Opal [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Witchy Noblewoman

Present Opal [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Genocidal Witch

Layla

Young Layla [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ A Child of Silence

Present Layla [Verse]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ A Wilted Black Flower

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Elvira [Character]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Everlasting Witch

16B [Character]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Battler Unit of YoRHa

Sofia [Character]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Indigo Assassin

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Opal [Character]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Witch of Ilithyia

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Verna [NPC]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Loyal Guardian of The Dawn

Alcina [NPC]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Great Ice Witch

7O [NPC]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Mild Mannered Operator

Pod 171 [NPC]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The YoRHa Pod Mom

Letta [NPC]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ The Roseate’s Dearest Friend

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Giselle [NPC]//.❀。• *₊°。 ❀°。 ➤ Daughter of the Witch

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