#hazbin critical

[thecrazygamingzombie]

To anyone saying that Viv’s work is declining in popularity:

At the LVLUP expo, the Helluva Boss panel on Saturday was so popular that the main event room filled to capacity within ten minutes of letting people in and several hundred more weren’t able to even get into the panel because it was so crowded

Also the line to see Viv and get her autograph was several hours long.

Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are more popular than ever and will continue to grow, DEAL WITH IT.

[hazshit-hotel-hater]

Niffty Redesign! (3/7)

Holy shit was not expecting to finish in the same day much less in like… under 4 hours??? IDK IM HAPPY WITH HER THOUGH!!!!

My biggest inspiration this time was lovebugs and specifically this LPS lovebug

Yes im colour picking Niffty from a littlest pet shop. Who is gonna stop me? Hasbro? They don’t even own LPS anymore!

Im making Niffty a bit tanner because while I see it a lot in other fandoms, I don’t ever see tan asian people in the Hazbin fandom, tbh this place seems like its allergic to melanin in general. There’s also a lot of stigmatisation around POC women in Hazbin like I’ve mentioned before. I plan on having Niffty deal with a decent chunk of stuff later on, a lot of it relating to obessions and romance and learning how to manage feelings like that and keep relationships with other people.

I wanted her socks to be cute but also held up by a garter belt so you can gather she’s got something going on. People seem to stray away from the topic of Niffty and sex or romance because they see her as a child or have infantalised her in some way. Yes ik I talk about this all the time but like GOD it pisses me off.

Her maid dress is actually a much darker shade of hot pink to the point its not really hot pink anymore but it is I promise

Niffty’s main sins are lust, wrath, and envy, seeing as she is a lovebug and also her current backstory is killing a lover out of jealousy. The redder pink parts are supposed to be a mix of lust and wrath so I hope that comes across well?

The same thing can be said about her clothes and all that. With her dress and the reddish hearts it’s supposed to be like “in one sin there’s another” but idk how well I pulled it off. The stitched up heart is also supposed to represent her hopeful/eventually redemption. I’d like to give Niffty more character than just “crazy small lady” so I’ll be trying to balance being somewhat like that with also being a bit sensible. I think it definitely could be done but I have doubts Viv will do much with it.

It really sucks that the POC characters and especially women they just get reduced to one or two traits and then thats it. Viv already is terrible at writing women and I think writing Niffty for her is just boring because, again, she cannot write women. 90% of this rewrite is me saving the women/hj

There will be more indepth Niffty content from me eventually, as of now this is my backbone for her design and overall story. Btw I think her rubber gloves are cute but make really annoying squeaking sounds 24/7. No idea if I’ll pull off another fast design like this, but we shall see!🐐

[dapperinsanity]

I ask this out of simple curiosity. How are the Charlastor shippers doing these days?

I never asked until now but I’ve been wondering that ever since Dad beat dad came out. To note…personally, I don’t care what people ship as I could care less about the show as it’s abysmal. Again, just curious.

[emerald-oceans]

I just don’t understand the disproportinate hate towards the shows. For a show that isn’t mainstream, will never be seen outside of the internet unless you come across someone sporting merch, and is fairly inoffensive and whose worst aspect is it’s ocassional mediocrity, you all seem to view it as the most vile thing to exist.

I just really like the characters and the songs and seeing people constantly shit on it like it’s the most heinous thing you could be a fan of and that if you’re a fan you’re a piece of shit and should be bullied really hurts. Just let us like it in peace, please.

[theoddest1]

liking a problematic ship isn’t the issue, liking fanart of a prop ship isn’t the issue. The issue is that they failed at writing one. Angel just straight up hates Val, but we’re being led to believe he loved him at some point and from how Val is and acts it’s like “how?” Val is a nothing burger he’s not charming, he’s not manipulative, he’s not smart, or funny and im sorry to the VA but the performance is really bad. Val is just another stupid villain “a Karen of the group” except they made him into a rapist that the creator doesn’t want to acknowledge and dodges so hard. Not even vox likes dealing with him but again we’re lead to believe theres some type of affection between them aside from just being fuck buddies for fan girls to slobber over. You had your chance at writing toxic yaoi but you shot yourself in the foot by speed running your show to get the big unearned moments and dwelling on SA and trying to get a pop hit single on Spotify instead of writing about abusive relationships.

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[riondisease]

i wish that valentino wasn’t a character. like why couldn’t there have been a different character that’s like Angels Shitty Boss that isn’t relevant to any other plots.

because ik what people are gonna say ik everyone’s like “it’s HELL everyone is a bad person, that’s the point” and while yeah, it makes everything just not fun anymore.

the vees aren’t fun anymore because they’re bffs with a rapist and sex trafficker. they literally fucking pose in his rape drug ads.

yes they’re all already bad people who do bad things but there’s a point when it gets too real to be fun. killing people in a show is fun, cannibal town is fun, this very much just makes people feel weird.

this fandom is awful (i could just end the sentence there) to any sexual assault victims that aren’t the Good Ones that back up their opinions about the way sa is portrayed in hazbin.

it sucks because velvette and vox are fun characters but their connection to valentino just kind of ruins them for me personally.

don’t even get me started on valentino stans and people (including vivzie who could’ve guessed 💀) who act like he’s just a silly dumb character. he’s literally a fucking sex trafficker how do you like him.

“it’s fiction” fucking astute observation genius. you gotta be really dumb to not realize that people with trauma aren’t going to be chill with you glorifying a rapist character and shipping him with his victim. no we’re not gonna “get over it” or “stop being so sensitive” because i’ve heard people fucking say that.

that got more depressing than it needed to be but yeah. i just think the vees would be better if valentino and angel’s assaulter were different characters.

[gh0stygray]

Working on a redesign of Velvette! I like how she acts in the show but I can’t stand her ashy grey skin, so I’m trying to do her some justice! I will also be cooking up some redesigns of the seraphim sisters.

I wanted to make her feel like she takes after both Valentino and vox.

I gave her white smudged make up on the form of a mask because it not only looks cool but I was trying to make her feel like a clown or doll? That’s what her past look resembled I’m not quite sure what she’s based off of or what kind of demon she is, I’d like to think she was a past model/ fashion designer who was very cut throat, bossy and very competitive, she seems very sure of herself, ambitious and opportunistic.

Maybe that lead her to some how falling of her high horse in fashion by a rival? Which resulted in her being called a hack or clown in which she retaliates by snapping on them killing her rival, career and self all in the same day.

[imab4dbitchucantkillme]

😾💖🕷️

[thats-ill-eagle]

You know Viv fucked up, when even her hardcore fans are starting to realize how messed up the leak and the context surrounding it is.

[nesperus]

aaand the full lineup of the redesigns (husk and alastor individuals under the cut)

[showtoonzfan]

Rewatching the Hazbin pilot again, and ya’ll remember how Angel Dust was actually a dick on purpose? He didn’t care about the hotel, he was a selfish candidate who was just in it for the rent, he talked shit about Charlie and Vaggie behind their backs, he was a reckless jackass who didn’t know when to read the room and that was the point. He wasn’t a good person and he especially didn’t like or trust Charlie and Vaggie, so seeing his arc of gaining friends and being compassionate towards the people he didn’t appreciate at first in episode fucking 4/6 of the first season is so wild to me.

It’s so rushed and forced, especially for a character like Angel. It was clear from the pilot that while he had some redeeming qualities, getting along with others would take time. In the show however they manage to woobify him even more than he already was. He’s just so damn sensitive, there’s a big difference between him and pilot Angel. Pilot Angel didn’t give a shit about what other people thought of him, and he owned it. Show Angel is incredibly sensitive and pissed off at every little thing, he’s so whiny and desperate for some kind of approval, which on its own isn’t bad, it’s just too fast, not just that but it’s sudden with no buildup. In episode 2 of the show, he gets sad for some reason when Charlie is complimenting Sir Pen. Then in episode 4, he suddenly cares about her and there’s no explanation to why, same goes for Nifty in episode 6. Like yeah it’s nice to see him care about others but you forget to show us WHY he cares. Viv has gone on to say before that his character involves him putting walls up and blocking people out in fear of him getting hurt, so like….what happened to that lol, cause that isn’t showcased in the show.

Husk has the same issue. This guy is supposed to be a grumpy drunk, in the pilot we know he only took the bartending job for the booze. He’s a messy guy who doesn’t like anyone, and it should have been awhile till he actually started to care about people. Instead he’s like..almost instantly friendly after episode 4. This is the same writing issues Helluva Boss had btw. Viv is so incredibly desperate for you to like her flawed/bad characters that rather than taking the time to actually show them slowly improving, she instantly paints them out to be sweet and expects you to go along with it.

[hazshit-hotel-hater]

Alastor Redesign! (5/7)

For as much as I hate his guys hair. God that bob. It really is iconic.

Anyway it’s Mr. Hazbin Hotel himself! He’s been growing on me a lot recently (my version, hes boring in the show im so sorry alastor fans)

I think most of my follow have seen my Alastor design so this post may be a bit shorter than the others; still I hope you like seeing him full body

I’ve always thought this guy looked nothing like a deer so I have attempted to fix that. Not sure if it looks the best but you can tell he’s a deer! Alastor is also biomechanical so he has a few technological pieces of his body like his mouth and antlers that are meant to look like those tiny radio tower thingies.

The scar and stitching around his neck is from a fight with Vox. Alastor isn’t able to just design and replace body parts so he has a decent chunk of scars under the suit. I placed it on the neck for vulnerability sake, and also like how you mount deer heads on the wall, I wanted to be like that a little.

For his colours, I did focus a bit on wrath and greed, but his dumb magic stuff is still green to represent envy. Also red and yellow are meant to evoke feelings of hunger and I thought that would be fun because he eats deer and all that :)

The microphone staff Vivzie gave him was stupid so I gave him one more inspired by the 1930’s. The red crescent and gold barings are meant to look like a blood moon and the sun a little bit, I thought that was cool.

Most of his interesting bits are through character interactions rather than how he looks in my opinion, but I think he still looks pretty spiffy. He’s funny, absolutely hate him though! 🥃

[fortunelowtier]

I swear to god, every time I see a Viv stan reply to a post criticizing HHs artstyle (its overuse of reds/disregard for character design rules, etc etc) with "of course its red, its hell" I want to SCREAM because I don't think I've ever heard them use any other excuse, theyre like a broken record who can only say that one thing

Ultrakill is set in hell, and it has some of the most incredible and varied layer designs I've ever seen

Doom Eternal is set in hell for most of its runtime, sure there's red, but there's also areas like the Blood Swamps that mix things up from the norm

for fucks sake the NETHER has more variety in color, a fucking block game from 2010 has more variety in color than Hazbin

[roseyquartz15]

I Love my silly snake man

[theoddest1]

Hey, isn't it so..."Great" that Viv is out here liking posts that clearly find moments where Angel is being sexual with his rapist "Hot" How much more telling can this all get, right? We really sit here, having to explain how fucked up it is to take SA, try to tackle it "seriously" but then proceed to not even do it for that reason. Only for it to be for angst and goon material. How do you expect me to SIT HERE and take whatever Viv has to offer seriously? The number of people I have seen trying to justify this gross behavior is abysmal. If you have this kink or whatever, fine not like I can stop you, be into that shit somewhere else, but DO NOT try and TACKLE IT only for it to be not even seen as serious or as a way for you to get off to your sick fantasies.

Why the hell would you like this? "Angel with his abusive rapist boss😝, so hot guys! Can'tstop thinking about it!"

What good reason would Viv have in liking this post? Why do over 4k people find a post like this neat? "Oh they're fictional, it's gucci, stop bitching" wouldn't need to bitch if people didn't outright sexualize moments meant to tackle an irl fucking problem.

By the way, this person ships Angel and Valentino together. Their pinned tweet is legit sexual Val and Angel art. I wouldn't recommend attacking them regardless if you disagree with their ships and what they deem...ugh "hot."

Fair warning to I WILL be showing some of their arts and reblogs as evidence, so if you are not into that sort of thing (anything NSFW), I highly recommend scrolling past my post or past this section of it.

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I'm pretty sure Viv actively searches for this sort of thing on Twitter, like it's PAINFULLY obvious that she does. How you just so happen to like a post clear af lusting for this abusive relationship YOU CLAIMED to take seriously that ALSO happens to be from an account that ships the abuser with the victim? Gtfo with your two-faced shit, just say your find this hot instead of lying your absolute ass off. The audacity for some fans to go after one group of people for liking questionable stuff only to let other questionable things slide. Like homie, you can let rape slide, but draw the line for any other questionable thing? How's about you have that energy for EVERYTHING with your hypocritical asses. Ion wanna hear y'all stank ass make callouts if you're okay with a rapist being shipped with someone he actively harms in various ways.

And Viv

You say this entire sequence is meant to be uncomfortable, meant to not sugar-coat how awful this situation is, and supposedly have people who are victims/survivors themselves, yet here you are liking posts from people who do anything but take it seriously and even sexualize it. That's absolutely insane to me. And reminds me how you were drooling over some pins that glamorize the abuse Angel and supposedly Husk goes through, you know, the same character that COMPARED his abuse with Angel's.

Ah yes, let's downplay how horrible Angel's situation is further, shall we? Let's especially do it after adamantly arguing with other SA survivors who "haven't seen the episode yet" and need to shut up or don't watch 😃. Let's ignore the fact that Husk and Angel's situations STILL aren't comparable but it's still very odd to have pins on TWO situations taken seriously in the show. So do you actually view the situations seriously or not Viv???

God she's....actually fucking stupid and horrid.

[dyssonant-skyline]

Alastor has never felt like an intimidating presence to me. I tried to implement a quick fix, though I'm not sure if those teeth would be animation friendly, and well, anything that appears frequently will lose it's impact over time.

The thought is, if all other sharp teethed characters have the standard shark style points, giving Alastor more realistic teeth would make him stand out. Giving him more real teeth size/layout also turns his smile proportions more eerie as the space around his teeth is just a void, his lips stretching over empty space.

It also turns the smile into a threat more directly if the audience interprets his teeth as the teeth of a carnivore. If you see the teeth of a predator animal, that's showing their intent to use them. Plays into the cannibal backstory and all.

I also just like having more negative space in his face. His yellow teeth can be really intense sometimes.