#Taumatized Chosen One

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I love my rough-rough sketches. These are the guys that don't leave containment :)

[hellacioushag]

mindpalace0 said: @hellacioushag the reason why many elriels are against the mating bond for lucien and elain is because elain does not want it. It was something she did not choose for herself but instead it got forced upon her. Feysands and nessian knew each other before the mating bond reveal. That's not the case for elucien. On the worst taumatic day of elains life some random male claims her. Then she finds out she is shackled and is forced to have a bond with someone she doesn't know

mindpalace0 said: @hellacioushag yh it would be different if elain CHOSE to get to know lucien etc but of right now it's Canon that she gets really uncomfortable around him loses her boldness. Lucien is also shacked to her. He wouldn't have chosen her he says himself she was thrown at him. I can't say for all elriels but the ones I do k ow just want aleain to be able to choose to stray from what is expected of her. Right now everyone expects her to simply accept the bond and become a mate mindpalace0 said:  @hellacioushag I'm deeply sorry if u have ever received comments from idiotic elriels calling u antifeminist. Ignore them and know its not true. At the end of the day sjm can go anywhere with these books. Many elriels simply don't want to ship two people who are genuinely so uncomfortable and awkward around each other. That however can change as the books progress 

mindpalace0 said: Also it's CANON they r uncomfortable and awkward with eath other. Will that change later on in the book? maybe. But right now almost every scene of theirs is cringe to read. You can't be serious when u say that they r not uncomfortable around each other cause they r. Elain owes him NOTHING. Why should she. Why should she stop herself from being happy because of a bond she does not want. Feysand and nessian differ cause in the end they still got to know each other

mindpalace0 said: Before the bond revealed itself. Elain did not have that.

ok i think i got everything that was either directed at me or was just sent in the general post unspecified. i’m not gonna sit and talk about elriel cause i really don’t care about that ship or anyone’s reasons for shipping it. you do you. have fun. i will however address some of the critique you mentioned regarding my thoughts on elucien and the bond. 

1. we do not know how elain feels. we don’t have her pov so anything the other characters are inferring about her regarding her body language is only speculation, not fact. if cassian or nesta notes how elain’s boldness disappears in lucien’s presence we do not know why that is. we can only project our own assumptions as to the motive. you are assuming it’s because she’s uncomfortable around lucien and doesn’t want him. i could assume that she may have been overwhelmed by lucien’s presence because when he’s gone she isn’t faced with the bond, but in his presence she not only feels it there, but may also glean his feelings for her through the bond. neither one of us can claim our assumption is fact because we weren’t in elain’s pov in that scene. other characters interpretations are not always reliable. feyre assumed mor was hiding her love for azriel until mor flat out told her she had no romantic interest in him. until we have elain’s pov we cannot claim our assumption of the scenes are textual evidence. 

2. lucien didn’t say he was shackled to elain. the quote is this:

“I would agree with you on that,” I admitted. “But remember that they were engaged. Give her time to accept it.” “To accept a life shackled to me?” My nostrils flared. “That’s not what I meant.”

he is not oblivious to elain as some would like to claim. he and feyre were discussing graysen and how elain was still mourning the end of their relationship during acofas. feyre was trying to tell lucien to give elain time to accept it was truly over between her and graysen and lucien, having just been brushed off by elain, pushed his own insecurities onto feyre. i assume he thinks because elain won’t speak with him, won’t even try to get to know him, that she think he’s beneath her. that a life with him is surmountable to being shackled. again, this is his own fear and insecurities about her and the bond. we actually don’t know how elain feels about lucien. only the bond. only that she hates the idea of being bonded to anyone. 

3. eluciens, as far as i am aware, do not want elain to be forced into the bond. we want her to be able to get to know lucien the way feyre and nesta got to know rhys and cassian. we want them to have a chance. the only reason there’s a different dynamic with elucien vs feysand/nessian is because elain is aware of the bond and the idea of it has added fear and pressure to her. however, lucien has been kind and patient and understanding. when feyre asked him to move to velaris in acofas to get to know elain he declined. not because he doesn’t want to know her, not because he doesn’t want to be mates, but because he is allowing her to set the pace. he’s being respectful, but also wants her to know he’s thinking about her and he’s there whenever she may want to talk. he is putting himself in the uncomfortable situation of going to feyre’s holiday events and putting himself out there with gifts for his mate because he wants to get to know her. if elain asked him to stay away he would based on his history of respecting her need for space. so any pressure elain is feeling is not based on lucien’s actions, but the idea of the bond itself.

4. if you don’t like elucien that’s fine. my post wasn’t about trying to convince you otherwise. it was in relation to seeing a lot of anti-elucien posts implying shippers are anti-feminist and don’t respect elain and her choices. it was to uplift the elucien community cause i know seeing those same tired arguments gets annoying for me. i think it’s perfectly fine to talk about a ship, to dissect why you don’t like them, but i don’t think it’s acceptable to tear down the shippers who support the ship. to imply horrible things about the shippers and then claim it was just a personal opinion. nah. you want to make jokes, and memes, and shitposts about the fandom and shippers i think that’s fair game. you want to write a meta implying anyone supporting a certain ship are supporting child abuse or they’re misogynistic or they're racist is disgusting and it needs to stop (not you specifically, but the fandom as a whole).