#Trashseeker talks

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the Undertale take I've seen absolutely no one have is that yeah, Gaster is a skeleton whose font is Wingdings, but Sans and Papyrus (and any other skeletons) are the only ones who can't understand him.

Because. Wingdings isn't a language. It's a cipher. When you type in Wingdings you're still writing words as they're spelled in your language. Just with a different alphabet. If you had the cipher memorized, and you read a sentence written in Wingdings aloud, it wouldn't affect your pronunciation. So Gaster probably sounds like anyone else when speaking aloud.

But if you're a font skeleton who magically sees people's speech as text in whatever font, and then there's a font that's not using the normal alphabet then like heck you're gonna understand what's being said

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My dear 7 followers, I apologize for not posting. I have so many thoughts and ideas, actually, but I was out of my ADHD meds for three weeks, and before that I was visiting my grandma out of state for a couple weeks. So. Yeah.

But!! I'm not dead! I still have things to post! Theories to dissect! So fear not. (In case any of you were, for some reason...)

Also I have been possibly getting back into drawing. It's a weird balance. I draw better on my meds, but have waaay less desire to. I want to draw all the time without my meds, but can't usually get out more than sketches. So uh, maybe I'll manage some TPoH fanart?? If I do you'll be the first to know.

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okay so. I am very very recently into The Property of Hate. I am caught up, and rereading bits and parts, while attempting to find blogs that still actively talk about/post about it. I'm quite new, so there's a good chance I have just missed it, but these are some things I have noticed/wondered that I haven't seen talked about.

1) Theory: The eyes on (the top half of) the butterfly's wings are RGB's eyes. Reasoning: In "Iris," on pages 455 and 456, we see the butterfly glare at RGB while asking if he cares who they (the butterfly) once was, and he says no. It then cuts him, and we get a brief flashback of, presumably, human RGB telling someone (whoever the butterfly used to be? Or his reflection, perhaps?) that he hates them, with the same glare. This is also, I believe, the only time we ever see his eyes in a flashback. Further, the butterfly is widely believed to be Hate, and it would make sense that his own hatred (of this other person? of himself?) is what "blinded" him. ESPECIALLY if it blinded him to his own potential. More on that later.

2) Observation: Negative seems to wear actual spats, as opposed to having them be part of his shoes. Relevance: Mod once said in answer to an ask about RGB's suspenders that nothing about him is genuine, it's only meant to appear that way, and cited his not-actually-spats as one example. If Negative does indeed wear real spats, does that make at least part of him more "genuine" than RGB?

3) Theory(?): Negative means no harm to Hero, and in fact cares a great deal about her. Reasoning: He's clearly intelligent, not just violent toward whatever is closest, because in his first appearance he protects Hero, rather than going after her himself. If the Fears were no match for him, why waste time fighting them if he wanted to hurt her? She would have been the weakest target, not the Fears. Then, in the desert, after creating the giant rose to protect himself and Hero, once he looks up and notices her, the eye on his screen looks teary, like it's watering up. (Pg 355) And wouldn't you cry if a child you wanted to protect came back into a deadly storm for you? In addition, I saw a post somewhere reasoning that the House of Lead belongs to Negative, and in that post the OP theorized that Negative wanted Hero to tell RGB about him. If he were antagonistic, or had literally any ill will toward Hero, that wouldn't make any sense.

Miscellaneous thoughts and rambling:

RGB calls himself "an unreliable narrator at best" during the same conversation/monologue/story he says that he is a failure, that the only thing he ever does is fail. ("After all, I died, didn't I?" -pg 472) And it seems that way, based on his history with heroes, sure. He fails pretty much all of his goals in the story (even ones like "don't get attached"). But if we go based on a number of meta things, we can easily reason that that isn't true, and he is, in fact, an unreliable narrator of his own life. For one, he was almost certainly an actor or entertainer of some sort. That in and of itself is a form of success. But beyond that, we have Mod's "The Face of Television" art, which implies he was VERY successful. There is also the "I was in Brooklyn when I found out" art of Dial looking at obituaries in the newspaper. Why would the obituary of a failed British actor be in an American newspaper? He had to have been someone well-known. Finally, on page 433, all the way to the left, among the static, you can see, "-reaking news tonight --as famed --tertainer". All of this heavily points toward RGB being, not a failure, but instead highly successful when he was human. Rather, I think the "failure" part comes from how he viewed himself. Unable to look in the mirror, to stand himself at all, to think of himself as anything more than a projection-- empty, hollow. And isn't that exactly how he ended up? I think that he played into Hate's hand because he did, in fact, have hatred-- but it wasn't the kind she could use against others directly, because he doesn't hate others; He hates himself. He hates himself so strongly that, even after selling his memories, he still truly believes that he is, at his very core, a failure.

Maybe Negative is the part of him that believes in himself??

Also:

I never see anyone talk about the recurring shapes/symbols in RGB's flashbacks/dreams. I'm mentally calling them: Box (or possibly Casket), Hands, Iron, Teardrop, Rectangles. They appear on pages 335 and 456, at least. Possibly others. Really really curious what they represent.

Anyway I'm sure I'm missing a lot of well-known fandom stuff but. I just needed to put my thoughts together and dump them into a public space.

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Been thinking about The Property of Hate and its title. When I first found it and started reading it, I assumed "property" referred to a quality, like the properties of metals. I assumed it would become clearer what was meant, once I read the comic. Well. Obviously it has not.

Then I saw many posts about it referring to something owned, property as in a belonging. And I went, "Oh! I didn't think of that." So I've been giving it some more thought.

I thought, "Well, we see that Hate can see and even affect the comic pages. Perhaps the comic itself is the property of Hate. It is named as such because it belongs to her.

And it makes this seem relevant in a new way, too.

I don't know what way, exactly, that is. Just... some new way.

My other take was back to the idea of "property" as in "quality." I asked myself, "What is a distinguishing quality that hate has, in real life?"

And my brain immediately answered:

"It divides."

The scissors, and the fact that Hate seems to be the source of solid panel-divisions (sometimes, anyway???) both feel more fitting with that realization.

EDIT: Apologies! I was in a haze while writing this and didn't think to link to why I said that about the panels. Behold!! That was 100% NOT something I came up with on my own, that was this very smart person (who also has wonderful art btw) that I'm too nervous to @ directly, haha...

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Okay so idk about you guys but personally it seems to me that RGB's body just. Doesn't exist when he clothes aren't there. Like, the clothes ARE his body. He stores Hero's wellies in his shirt. When he pays Watcher, it's with his hand. Why not just his glove, when things that become incorporated are clearly adaptable? Because the glove is his hand.

I am not one who wants to get into spicy content, but I'm 100% positive there's stuff out there of RGB. I'm curious how people assume his "body" works, but like, I don't want to look it up to find out. I personally think that if you tried to grab his forearm with his sleeve rolled up, it'd just pass through. I think the glove stays there because that's where it's supposed to be, not because there's actually an invisible arm and hand.

Otherwise, why would the spaces between his clothes be called gaps? If they weren't, wouldn't he have corrected Hero?

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am I the only person who never realized that Mettaton's EX form... is a glamour??

It's not his true from, it's not sustainable, and it's magical (by nature, since all monsters are).

And Death by Glamour... he runs out of batteries if you're doing neutral (and don't kill him) or pacifist. "Death" by means of his glamour.

Are you kidding me

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Tempted to learn how to rotoscope just so I can animate RGB tapdancing one of those routines from those old black and white shows

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Guys I think I should make a TPoh blog since I reblog so many things to this one since it's my main

So uhhhh if you liked my TPoH theories/rambling but didn't want to follow me bc of my disaster chaos blog, this is just a heads-up that I'll be moving all that to a blog just for TPoH and stuff. I'll come back and edit this with the url once I make the blog and reblog all my TPoH stuff from here.

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Do any of my followers like Monty Python?

Because I'm staying with my rich grandma, right? And she tells me this couple is gonna come stay with her for a night or two. And then casually adds that the wife is the lady who said the "No, spank me!" line in The Holy Grail. (Apparently she professionally rides horses or something now?) I'm literally meeting this woman tonight and I have no idea what to say to her. If anyone has questions for this woman, or ideas of things to say to her, please send them to me asap

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Dear followers, what time was this posted, where you are?

For me, it’s 12:39pm

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Ugh why do I have to eat food so many times per day

Can't I just eat once or twice and be done??

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BEHOLD! WITH THIS POST... THERE ARE NOW 25,000 POSTS ON THIS BLOG

Feast your eyes upon my kingdom of dirt

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I want to be. lizer 🦎

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Who among you can turn me into a lizard

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Okay, now that I've got my blog set-up stable and not headache-inducing, I can FINALLY set up the queue. And the tag list. And several other things.

Thanks for bearing with me, guys!

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Edit: I mean the desktop one sorry guys