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#also worth noting literally no one that replied to their post was a zionist
menlove · 5 months
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sorry to keep bitching about this person but posts like this are just so fundamentally ridiculous and these types of posts are so painfully popular on this website from "leftists"
like. how could this possibly be something worth posting about. like im sorry but people are dying. palestinians are dying and you're worrying about posting funny gotchas on your blog by calling fandom blogs cringe and equating them to an actual harmful ideology
you are using a very serious and genuine humanitarian crisis to dunk on... fandom bloggers? like babe that is NOT the priority. please do go up to a palestianian mother who just had to bury her child and say "🖐️ wait! don't cry! I'm here to support you! I made a post on a dying website making fun of cringey millennials. you're welcome"
it's so obvious you guys just see serious political issues and humanitarian crises as a way to win Cool Leftist Points instead of actually giving a shit about the cause you claim to support. it would be laughable if it weren't actually harmful.
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a-method-in-it · 3 months
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Girl what the hell is that last post you just reblogged.
(((They))) leave out or what.
Have you considered that you just did not pay that much attention during history class, because I learned about many of these things.
Jesus Christ half of that Tweet chain is just antisemtic conspiracy theories with 'zionists' instead of jews, as if that's not something the alt-right has started doing years ago.
Calling jewish people 'white' as if that's what the perception was at the time or makes any sense considering Jewishness is an ethnicity.
Fucking hell. You seemed like a reasonable person for a long time yk. But a claim that the goddamn Holocaust wasn't explicity and overwhelmingly targeting Jews with most others as afterthoughts is insane and history denying.
Literal textbook antisemitism.
Hi --- From the sound of this ask, you're someone who follows me, and as such I wish you hadn't sent this on anon so that I could reply privately, but here goes.
I assume you are talking about this post? That's the closest thing that I can find in my reblogs to what you're describing, though a lot of what you say about it here isn't actually true.
The post does not call Jewish people white --- it says that the way the Holocaust is presented in mainstream education seems designed to portray Jews as perfect white victims who didn't even fight back, which is obviously not true. (The fact that it's not true, including the white part, is what the Twitter user is pointing out.)
It also never claims that the Holocaust was not overwhelmingly targeting Jews, and I honestly don't know where you got that.
Also, I can't speak to where you went to school, but as a middle class white American, I actually was not taught anything in school about the Herero and Nama genocide, the presence of armed Jewish resistance to the Nazis, the fact that Hitler was inspired by the Armenian genocide, and certainly not that he was inspired by the genocide of indigenous peoples in the United States. (I did in high school learn that the Red Army liberated the camps and that people other than Jews were targeted as well, including Romani and disabled people; I have, however, had friends who were surprised to learn this as adults.)
You seem to think this post was criticizing the way that Jewish people talk about the Holocaust, but unless you think that Jewish people are in charge of all education policy (which would be a weird thing to think?) I don't see how you're getting that at all. The post specifies it's about Holocaust education, which I read as the things people are taught in school.
For what it's worth, I have found that Jewish sources of information about the Holocaust are actually less likely to fall into these traps than mainstream American ones, just speaking from my own experience.
I will say I'm not thrilled with the way the Twitter user makes the leap to saying that this type of education is deliberately meant to further zionism. I think that's a stretch. I reblogged it anyway because I thought it was overall making good points. I might wind up deleting it; I certainly take it seriously when something reads to Jewish people as engaging in anti-Semitic tropes, and if you have more to say about why you think this does that, I truly am happy to listen. I don't really see it that way, but as a goy, I often miss things.
But yeah. I feel like this would have been a better convo to have non-publicly, and I wish you hadn't chosen to go the anonymous route. I don't know what to make of statements like "You seemed like a reasonable person for a long time yk." coming from an anonymous ask. Are we mutuals? Have we interacted? Or are you basing this assessment purely on my online presence? Are you treating me like some quasi-public figure because I *checks notes* have a pseudonymous account on the internet's least popular social media site or have I offended someone I know and have some online relationship with?
If you want to send a chat or an ask I can answer privately, I'm happy to keep talking, but if you send another anonymous message, I will not be replying.
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