About metrics, objectivity and Te: I have typed myself as a Ti dom because my approach to solve problems/understand things seem to fit it, but something has been bothering me. That Mr ENTJ post about Te vs Ti (links aren't accepted) is a good example. Because the Ti way doesn't make nay sense to me. I don't know whether it's really biased and lacks understanding of Ti because the author is a TJ, or whether I'm not a Ti user after all. I'm an aspiring performer and while I'm perfectionist 1/3
and strive to be the best and study/train a lot I do it mainly because of my own standards and my passion. I've always been totally aware that being the best means very little in not only my field, but many others. Networking, nepotism, bribery, charisma, physical appearance, communication skills, titles: all these and more trump plain knowledge and technical talent. I'm mostly ok with that, I can see why those things are valid, can be affected by those as well. I think that whining about 2/4
how "unfair" things are is missing the point, and useless. As technical minded as I am (I spot mistakes a mile away and they bother me) I still judge success solely by numbers and objective impact. How much did it sell, what was the final profit, how many views, what ranking etc, also about how much people commented on it, the influence it had. It doesn't matter how good it is, numbers don't lie and if you don't have those, you flopped. It greatly annoys me when people refuse to accept this. 3/4
I thought it's because I'm a 3, but the more I see Te/Ti comparisons I can never side with Ti and that baffles me. It just mostly sounds divorced from reality or like it undervalues it. I though I preferred Ti because my speculation/theories don't hit a "that's not what science says" wall like Te does, I question the "Te God" statistics and I enjoy analyzing/breaking down things for fun (and I think acquiring understanding give you power). Thoughts? Is that Mr ENTJ post accurate? 4/4
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I’m assuming this is the relevant post.
Some of this might be sensing (if you typed yourself as an INTP or ENTP...you are almost certainly not one). However, STPs and ESTPs sometimes mistype as STJs because while they love figuring things out for their own sake they also appreciate the realities of the situation and objective evidence. In fact, socionics attributes some things to Se that MBTI groups in Te - there’s a lot of overlap between the two. I think Mr. ENTJ does have a pretty good understanding of Te (he likely has some bias in favor of Te; most high Te users do have a lot of frustrations with Ti, myself included, but that doesn’t mean we don’t understand how it works) but I also think it’s possible that your attitude could come from high Se accepting the reality of the situation. (Also, perhaps I’m idealistic or just in a hard STEM field where your school matters less but while it’s undoubtedly true going to a name-brand school provides people with additional opportunities, in many fields you still need to bring some talent to the table as well).
However, I think your understanding of Te might be limited and you could be a Te user. As mentioned, I’m literally a scientist, and Te doesn’t just end arguments in “that’s not what science says” because science itself is often in disagreement. Te is still open to debate and to learning things for fun - it just is more selective, and more interested in getting things done on time and on budget rather than as elegantly as possible. A healthy high Te user is willing to say “I know this doesn’t handle every contingency, but for our purposes it should be good enough and a method that would handle every contingency would be prohibitively expensive/take too long/require resources we are unlikely to have”. Ti is less willing to do that. I’m also not sure what “ ‘Te God’ statistics” means.
I can’t tell from this question whether you’re a Ti or Te user (although speaking of weird gut feelings and writing style, plus a 3 core, you sound more extroverted to me though a particularly forceful IxTJ is not out of the question), but I’d recommend you first consider ESTP, ENTJ, and ESTJ as possibilities.
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