#and as aforementioned this falls all too often on Ranb
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#the collectivists is sooo. Shit is complicateddd and I'm not a Dream or a Tbbo scholar so what m I sposed to dooooo#They're fucked up though#it is very much a story abt Tbbo folding#2 a man who has hurt him as *collateral* which is a dynamic that is never going 2 go away#and it is a story about a Tbbo whose most fucked up consequences are getting pushed forward only more bc asmentioned in initial post no one#realizes what it means that everyone's enabling one another until it's too late#It's very much also abt Dream's calculations falling through and being forced to reckon w/ Tbbo as an agent#while also both he and Tbbo have very very different definitions of what an agent is and deserves than Ranb does#and than any normal person does#and here the O5 enjoyer in me comes back bc this is such a fucked up situation#of both of them serving the actual same agenda and they are being unimaginably horrible about it#Tbbo escalatingly so and Dream >Drean#and absolutely to themselves#Tbbo is willing tofold and is willing 2 throw everything away for it and Dream is . Well again Dream#And while the dynamic doesn't go away how do they both compartmentalize#bc both of them as self defense can only go further into self dehumanization and the run for control#not even for themselves!! But as a necessary tool#and as aforementioned this falls all too often on Ranb#who is excruciatingly aware of this happening and trying to struggle out and because of the disadvantage he's placed at#with his hand being largely and devastatingly revealed#he *can't*
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