#and he's actually deeply considered and weighed all possible alternatives to an option

[hyperiridescence]

Dima PAFL is like if Mob MP100 had no morals (affectionate)

[thelightofthingshopedfor]

and here I am squeaking in juuuuust under the wire with a ficlet for @lokibingo, written for the square “Very bold of you to assume that you know anything about me.”

this is a promise with a catch (Loki & Sylvie, 952 words, start of episode 6) Rating: general Warnings: minor references to Bad Stuff With Thanos, references to canonical character deaths Summary: In the Citadel at the End of Time, Loki considers the offer from Miss Minutes and He Who Remains. He can't not. The words thrum over and over again in his mind: You can kill Thanos, so simply and easily, as if the suggestion alone doesn’t feel like a punch to the gut.

“It’s crazy,” Miss Minutes says, which is quite possibly the most honest thing Loki’s ever heard her say, “but he could make it work. All of it. Everything. Exactly the way you’ve always wanted. And you can have it all, together.”

You have no idea what we want, Loki almost says—a reflex, and not an entirely accurate one. Of course she knows enough to get close, because the TVA does too, even if they don’t fully understand.

“It’s fiction,” Sylvie says firmly. She doesn’t seem very tempted, and Loki can’t blame her. Miss Minutes has no truly attractive offer for her, after all—she would have to make the conscious choice to overwrite all her memories with false ones, even assuming they could do it well enough and seamlessly enough that she wouldn’t doubt her new memories later. She would still know, in the moment she agreed, that she was choosing a pretty lie.

The offer to Loki, on the other hand…

He thinks about it. He can’t not. His mind has always been like this, flicking through possibilities, playing out scenarios, weighing his options even when he knows some of them are unacceptable (although his definition of “unacceptable” has gone back and forth quite a bit, lately). And in this case of course he is tempted, because—

The words thrum over and over again in his mind: You can kill Thanos, so simply and easily, as if the suggestion alone doesn’t feel like a punch to the gut. Forget the Avengers; self-righteous as they are, they were never his true enemies, which Miss Minutes would recognize if she took two seconds to look past some of the assumptions in his TVA files. If he could actually end Thanos, somehow, with or without the Infinity Gauntlet—take a little bit of revenge, yes, but more importantly stop the Titan from hurting or killing anyone ever again—

He could save everyone. He could return to Asgard a hero—even Midgard might forgive him, if he could prove Thanos had sent him. With the Gauntlet he could fix most of the problems ravaging their planet, and then they might well call him a hero too. He could protect Asgard from the Dark Elves—from everything, probably. Save his mother. Save his father, maybe, if that part isn’t an inevitable consequence of Odin’s age, and even then Loki would have those years, to do what he could to…have a family again. He could prevent Ragnarok, even, if the TVA allowed it—and why wouldn’t they, if they were really willing to change the Sacred Timeline for him in the first place? He couldn’t prove what Thanos meant to do with the Infinity Stones, maybe, so the universe’s inhabitants might not know that he’d saved fully half their number—but he would know, he would be responsible for preventing death on a truly cosmic scale, and that would matter.

And Sylvie, even if she couldn’t bring herself to accept a lifetime of happy memories while knowing they were fake—she could live, if he convinced her to agree to the rest of it. Stop running, stop hiding, go back to Asgard, have the next best thing to her own family back again.

He could save everyone.

…except, of course, that isn’t the bargain, not really. The reward is an illusion, even if the TVA’s ruler somehow keeps every single promise, even if that promise involves allowing them to forget the TVA’s existence. Loki would have to make his decision, fully knowing in that moment that he was making himself complicit in the continued existence of the organization that strips free will from everyone in the universe and regularly destroys numberless lives to do it. He could tell himself it was better than the alternative and he might even be right, if their claims about devastating multiversal war are true. He is a prince, after all (and, very briefly, a king), one who grew up understanding the value of pragmatism. He is still practical enough, he thinks, to choose the lesser evil, if better options really do not exist.

But he doesn’t know. He has nothing except propaganda and a temptation from the same (deeply unsettling) source—and giving in to the temptation would make him little better than Thanos, with all his lies to himself that the destruction of half the universe was necessary to save the half left behind.

Well. Maybe more than a little. Even in his relatively short time on Sanctuary, Loki came to know Thanos well enough to be confident that the Titan’s motivations were no more than self-serving lies to hide even from himself the truth that he wanted the universe to suffer, that it made him feel powerful to cause pain.

(For just a second he imagines Mobius interrogating Thanos and wants to laugh, even though it isn’t really funny. It’s been that kind of day. Or week, or year, or…whatever.)

If the threat of multiversal war is real, if the constant sacrifice of variants and everyone unlucky enough to be in their vicinity truly prevents more suffering than it causes—even then, it is still an evil thing to choose. And if he chooses it now without that certain knowledge, knowing that he is sacrificing countless variants of, quite possibly, everyone who has ever existed and choosing to do so purely for the sake of his own happiness and that of the people he loves—

Better than Thanos, yes. But not by much. Not by enough to live with it.

He exhales. “We write our own destiny now.”

“Oh, sure you do,” Miss Minutes says. “Good luck with that.”

Norns, he hopes he’s right this time.

[ganymedesclock]

What do you imagine an AU where Lance (VLD) went on the mission instead of Shiro, being made to fight in the Galra pits and then escaping? How do you think Lance and Shiro's characters would alter in this situation? As a bonus, what do you think would happen if Galra!Keith was raised by the Galra (like by Thace or whoever that parent might be) was involved in this too?

So this is a lot of complicated variables at hand here and I think first I’m just going to focus on the idea of if Lance was the one taken by aliens for a year, and make a follow-up post about hypothetical raised-in-the-Empire Keith as its own scenario. As far as combining the two I will say that I really don’t like any of the premises I’ve seen that feature Empire!Keith interacting with Shiro while he’s imprisoned because I haven’t seen one that features Keith having serious misgivings about it, but… I’ll get to that.

So basically our proposition is, Lance is the pilot of the Kerberos mission, which would seemingly bump him and only him forwards a few years so he’s not a garrison student, just a pilot. To fill the void, we’d bump Shiro back and assume that he’s the pilot student paired with Hunk and Pidge. That said, I’m gonna focus more on Lance.

First question: Would Lance make the same decisions Shiro did?

This mainly refers to the situation with Matt Holt in the Gladiator ring. In canon, Shiro attacked Matt and postured as a ruthless gladiator in order to guarantee not only that he would fight first, but that Matt would be removed from combat- because with a useless leg, Matt is not going to make for an ‘entertaining’ gladiator for the audience, which would mean, ideally, he would be shuffled to the same work camp that held his father.

This hinges on both Shiro’s sacrificial qualities and his quick thinking. It’s a rather impressive plan and Shiro had to commit to and act on it with no hesitation to sell his act- not a small feat because this involves seizing a weapon and assaulting his friend. He also had to pick a specific target on Matt’s body that would incapacitate him enough to save him, while not injuring him enough to threaten his life.

Assuming everything offscreen is constant- that Lance, like Shiro, is taken with Matt to the gladiatorial ring- I do think Lance would come to the conclusion that he needs to go into the ring first instead of Matt.

I don’t think, however, Lance would injure Matt Holt.

Because the thing is, I don’t personally buy the idea of shuffling the paladin associations. I’m taking this AU with the idea that regardless of age adjustments or backstory swaps, Lance is still the Blue Paladin.

And the virtue of the Blue Paladin is compassion.

Lance is someone who in the canon timeline takes a bullet for someone he barely knows (Coran)- he not only throws Coran free of the explosion, but he also shielded Coran from the blast with his own body.

Because the thing about Shiro attacking Matt is that it was a very messy affair. Going in, Shiro knew this was something cruel, and vicious- that’s the persona he presented when he was doing that because that was how he saw it. But it was also a surefire plan to get Matt away from the ring and with that goal in mind Shiro was able to set his chin and not hesitate.

I don’t think Lance would even consider that a viable option. I still think he’d make a similar choice, but his focus would be on the guard. Because reading people- and playing people- is where he excels. He might yet get the ‘bloodthirsty’ reputation by coming across as positively itching to get into the ring- and probably deliberately acting unnerving to prevent the issue from dragging out or people from questioning it.

As far as Myzax?

Well, now, Lance isn’t really a fighter, but, neither was Shiro at that point. And Lance can think on his feet pretty well, so I still think he’d win that fight. Especially because Myzax is playing with projectiles, I wouldn’t be surprised if Lance might have instead found a way to use Myzax’s weapon against him. Either way, we’re gonna assume canon compliance there and that Lance emerges victorious, thus setting the stage for getting Zarkon’s attention and everything that follows.

I’d guess Lance’s hypothetical cyborg prosthetics would be different given his different fighting style/weapon proficiency, possibly his eyes? Since you don’t really need Super Arms to pull a trigger. I still feel mean about it because I feel like everybody comes for Lance’s eyes for some reason. 

That said, Lance is still able to escape- he’d likely notice the same details as Shiro since Lance is perceptive when it comes to people, albeit a little selectively. (at least in this AU he wouldn’t be totally in the dark about Pidge, knowing Matt Holt)

And this leads to:

Lance coping with trauma (and trying to be a member of the team dealing with it)

To a certain degree, Lance is terrified, he’s really shaken up by what happened, he’s shaken up by how much of a hold it has on him. Given Lance is the most overtly homesick of the team, that would weigh on him a lot. Especially the idea that he could go home but didn’t really have a chance to get back to Varadero or talk to his family at all before he had to turn right back around and get back to space.

That would probably be his major stress point, combined with feeling like he might not ever be able to go back to the way things were. I feel like in this AU, Lance would probably relate pretty strongly to Allura in the sense of feeling separated from home.

But he doesn’t want to admit that’s seriously eating at him. I think he’d leverage how well he can read people and use this to try and joke about the situation.

I actually think that would be a rather intense point of contention between him and Hunk, if we’re maintaining Lance and Hunk’s friendship and thus putting Hunk, to a degree, in Keith’s role- that Hunk was seriously affected by losing Lance. Because Hunk is too smart, and knows Lance too well, to be fooled by the act and he’d probably get mad that Lance isn’t even taking his own issues seriously. I imagine in this alternate timeline of the show Hunk would probably blow up at Lance around episode 2, as a sort of combined “I was worried about you, you jerk!” and “Stop pretending you’re okay like you can fool me.”

Not being in the Leadership Position might make it easier for Lance to accept help, especially because Hunk would, again, be on his case about that pretty strongly.

I feel like Lance’s breakdowns would have a very different tone compared to Shiro’s. Because Shiro’s breakdowns interact very much with who he is as a person and his role as the leader and relationship with the sense of control- as you can see pretty strongly in, say, his conflict with Sendak in the cryopod- Shiro basically has a panic attack, tries to aggressively slam down on the panic attack to prevent it from getting out, and tends to oscillate in that regard for a while until something stabilizes or distracts him. Him jettisoning Sendak and punching the pod’s glass is an example of that trying to slam down control on the situation.

I feel like Lance would much more be just a kind of hurricane of emotions but interacting very much with a sense of helplessness. It’d depend on what set him off and what stimuli he associates with it- and this is where Lance’s perceptiveness could work against him. He might remember minor tics of body language in the soldiers who kept him prisoner or the druids that worked on him and those might become triggers. Certain smells. Certain words and phrases.

Mostly, I feel like Hunk would take a major role in this AU. Not only does it play into Hunk’s thematic motifs as the Yellow Paladin, but again, assuming he takes the role for Lance that Keith in the canon ‘verse does for Shiro: as the close friend who waited for him and was deeply affected by losing him. And, not to knock on Keith- but Hunk would respond differently in this situation. I feel like Hunk would find his motivation to fight a lot earlier in this AU, to the point that I think the argument of “do we stay and fight or do we run” would switch certain points- with Lance and Hunk advocating stay and Shiro, who, without the personal experience of the Galra, would fall back on his own somewhat cautious nature- which would raise the question of whether or not Keith would take Shiro’s side or have his own, separate motivations for staying.

I do think it’d be very interesting to explore Lance’s relationship with the Blue Lion in this AU, especially given, again, the specific virtues of the Blue Lion. 

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