#and palestine is always the exception for the west- ceasefire except when it comes to genocide of palestinians

[aflamethatneverdies]

imo legal measures are always limited in what they can give, and especially in ICJ that was to be expected. since this is also not enforceable in any way. like obviously v disappointing they didn't call for a ceasefire despite saying some of the acts fall under genocide and the measures are simply telling israel to starve and kill gazans slightly less and provide them some more aid, but that's not completely unexpected you know.

[menalez]

I am trying to engage with you in good faith here. hamas has broken the ceasefire in 15 minutes during the hostage deal, and in general how is israel supposed to keep its citizens safe when hamas continues to bomb them? the idf has been struggling to get the hostages back because whenever they alert the civilians in the area before they start their operations hamas is alerted and flees with the hostages too.

israel’s citizens are fine…they are in a country with some of the top militaries and security systems. there hasn’t been a single report of an israeli citizen killed since october 7th (except for the ones who were taken hostage and then killed by israeli bombs or israeli bullets….so again how is this even keeping them safe..). meanwhile there’s hundreds to thousands of palestinian deaths occurring on a weekly basis. at the end of the day israel is far more powerful than hamas ever will be, has caused far more civilian death, has created far more destruction, and as the occupying power they have always had the upper hand & more power over hamas than hamas will ever have over them.

while 150 israelis are being held hostage, 1000s of palestinians are missing or held in prison without trial. in areas where hamas had no power like the west bank, hundreds of palestinian civilians have been killed since october 7th, coming close to the israeli civilian death toll on oct 7. this isn’t even mentioning the tens of thousands of palestinians killed, many being children, which is more than 10x the number of civilian deaths on oct 7 in israel. since oct 7, tens of thousands of palestinian civilians have been killed, and u want me to show more concern for the israeli citizens of which none have been killed for months.

for 75 years, israel has been enacting repeated aggressions and has led to the ethnic cleansing of palestinians from most of historic palestine, now israel. this is how israel came to exist: through violence, colonialism, ethnic cleansing, and oppression. this began a cycle of violence and continued aggressions will only further fuel this cycle. it won’t fix anything. destroying hamas by killing and traumatising civilians in such a way will only fuel more extremism.

some of u think it’s only bad to kill civilians when those civilians are israeli. i’m saying it’s bad to kill civilians, regardless of their national or ethnic or religious bg. its even worse to do it while expressing genocidal intent and making plans of colonising the land afterwards and intentionally destroying civilian infrastructure and using ur colonial power to starve the civilians of which half are children. i didnt sit there arguing it’s ok to kill 700 israeli civilians on oct 7 bc i didn’t think there’s any justification for it but some of u genuinely think 30,000+ palestinian lives are worth ending if it means rescuing.. what was it like 3 israelis rescued thru these aggressions? as opposed to like 60+ that were rescued from negotiations? what this tells me is u think an israeli life has 10,000x more value than a palestinian’s life and that u believe palestinians should be facing genocide if it means there’s the mere chance an israeli will live. not to mention that again many hostages were killed by israel’s bombs & bullets.. for some reason care for protecting israeli civilians & saving the hostages disappears when that fact is brought up

and saying “muslim goatfuckers” in another msg does not insinuate good faith to me. i also don’t think it’s good faith to justify mass-killing civilians by arguing israel simply must attack the one area they pushed almost all palestinian civilians to.