#but i dislike it if the object is to pull some beauty of the grotesque vibe

[mishkakagehishka]

I see you as the gore mutual TM or something so here me out

I don't think I inherently dislike gore (still not my cup of tea but you know) I just hate people screaming and being in agony it just makes me uncomfortable. I hate people being even slightly louder than I like so I mean... idk is that weird? Am I missing the beauty of gore if I hate that part?

Tbf gore is really not for everyone, but all who like gore have a different way of interacting with it and different things they like. For example, i'm kiiiind of with you - i don't like it when the subjects are Just in pain. For me, that's only only only horror. The beauty of gore, in my opinion, comes when the subject Likes being gored. Whether it's completely pleasurable for them (not necessarily sexual, but i know that pleasure as a word has connotations) or a mix of pain and pleasure, I just need there to be a hint of "they don't hate it" in order to properly enjoy the beauty of gore. But as horror, there's an appeal in being able to hear how pained and tortured the subject is, because horror is a full-senses experience to me, and hearing it is part of it (or lack of hearing it in other types of horror, but for gore and tortureporn, i think hearing the pain is important).

In short, the beauty of gore - as one thing, where gore is beauty and beauty is gore - lies in the subject not being in too much pain, in my opinion. Gore as just gore can be anything, though.

[bvccy]

Its not boring!!! 😂😂

If you want to be cathartic, list the shit he'd hate and be weird out about. I'd love to hear it too. I love rants!

Yeah, about NSFW, I can't think of anything on top of head that he'd like. In the sense of "omg this is amazing", there's things he'd appreciate, maybe.

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I mean, speaking from experience, when you go to a completely different environment and nothing is familiar and all the rules are flipped upside down, and everyone around you just knows what to do and are surprised when you don't and you feel like you have to learn to walk again... It's interesting at first and a lot of people really like it, but it can also be irritating to the point where you're uncomfortable with everything around you, no matter how objectively good it might be.

I think Bucky would, honestly, dislike most things at least in a passive if not an active way. Everything would seem worse and ugly.

People's clothes, their hairstyles, the shoes, restaurant menus and cutlery, Christmas decorations and stationary, pens, watches, faucets, and books.

Even children's cartoons. And I grew up with Courage the Cowardly Dog, Ed, Edd n Eddy, Johnny Bravo, all of those, they are my childhood, but I've still got to admit they are grotesque to look at, they are so ugly, they're nothing like the Mickey Mouse or Tom and Jerry cartoons which were so pure and cute.

Music, let's not even get started. He basically admitted in TFATWS that he "likes 40s music so..." he doesn't even listen to anything after that, is the implication. I certainly doubt he listens to anything that came out starting the 60s.

Movies. He'd probably stick to 40s films, some 50s ones, but from the 60s he'd probably pull a face at some of the fashions and themes used and would feel like they don't speak to him.

Architecture. Glass coffins. No beauty, no style, no soul, no relevance (it's why I had Dolores in NtD work for an Architecture firm, she was a soulless villain from the start).

This was the Soviet Union's pavilion at the Paris Expo of 1937:

This was the German pavilion at the German Expo of 2000:

(also, this was the Expo's official mascot, Twipsy, for extra yikes)

Keep in mind that Bucky may have been a 40s guy, but he was born in 1917. Which means his parents were 1880s kids or so. From the 1850s and up to the 1950s, the US and Europe were at their most decorative, most ornamental. Art Nouveau and Art Deco were born in that timeframe. In Britain, the Arts and Crafts movement flourished.

So what sort of things would he have been exposed to from his parents? What did he grow up thinking is good and beautiful? What would he grow up thinking is worth fighting for?

Some things do maintain the 40s style he would be familiar with, so he could find suits to wear, shoes and ties like from the 40s, and cafes or eateries that keep that ambience, as well as buildings that survived from that time around NYC. But he would have to deal with being the odd man out most of the time.

I think he could tolerate most things, like product packaging and phones and furniture and such, but other things would seem ugly beyond his point of acceptance. And, generally, he would not feel it is relevant to him or made for him.