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fellhellion · 1 year

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Hm. Something I’ve been thinking about (since I never shut up about Miguel apparently) is the idea that maybe there’s not supposed to be, to his understanding of what happened, a singular canon event that he breaks when dipping dimensions, it’s more the idea that he “breaks” canon by no longer being present to carry out his own canon events, by wanting something outside of what was apparently predestined to him, and the universe punished him for it.

I broke [canon] once myself, he says, but he doesn’t name the event even as the examples he pulls up are labelled.

Perhaps the “event”, as the characters perceive it, could just be something as simple as by virtue of replacing alt!Miguel he negated the intended effect of the man’s death upon the world around him.

But I just wonder. Because the way Miguel speaks of this to Miles portrays his own wanting for something different as being what he thinks invoked that destruction.

“We all want to live the life we wish we had, believe me I’ve tried. And the harder I tried, the more damage I did. You can’t have it all, kid.”

I wanted something more, but Spider-Man’s fate is set. Any and all events, regardless of their nature. And defying that fate, trying to live a life beyond what it asked of me killed people.

If you alter your course from canon in any way, you hurt people.

#tunes talks spiderverse #long post #idk idk just thinking thoughts #I find it interesting to think of different ways we can interpret the same information #interpret the characters’ thinking in different ways #maybe they DO think alt!Miguel’s death was a canon event and our Miguel just didn’t know at the time #but i wonder. considering there’s a big overhanging metanarrative question about the purpose of suffering in spiderman stories #- asking us who suffers (Gwen being constantly fridged) and why -#it could be a matter of the characters thinking if they try escape or outwit ‘predetermined’ suffering the universe will only take more from #you #it’s so interesting to me because Miguel pre-dimension dip left because he felt such an absence of joy in his life #he was deeply unhappy and wanted something as simple as a happy family life #he doesn’t WANT to be in pain. some part of him resents the idea that this seems to be his lot in life #he resents it as much as Miles does. but he believes he needs to bear it because look what happened when u wanted better you hurt people #and like. have yammered about this in a previous post but I think part of his nasty rant at Miles is abt offloading some of that suppressed #resentment for the toll this fate has taken on him onto Miles #he blames Miles because Miles is THERE. you can control that at least. it’s not the intangible cosmic force that would apparently as soon as #murder you than change #it’s unfair of him to do so (offload onto Miles I mean) DEEPLY unfair and inappropriate behaviour.#but also god. is the desire not to hurt anymore so human. is the idea of RESENTING that hurt being ur lot in life human #the narratives…they’re foiling….

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