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anyways, the thing is that joker as a villain was important post-jason's death, but pre-jason's resurrection he was used sparingly & he was honestly. in jail or arkham for most of that time? let's see:
immediately post jason's death, he's presumed dead for about 6 months
when he comes back, bruce has him put in arhkam
he breaks out once while bruce is out of town, tim & alfred put him back
he stays in arkham until bane breaks out all of the villains in order to break batman. he hires a motion picture studio to film him killing batman, but alas this is azbats & azbats sends to him blackgate. he does get away on the way here, and then goes into hiding and doesn't do anything for a bit bc he doesn't want to do anything bc he doesn't care about fake batman.
at some point he's caught and put back in arhkam. as far as i remember he doesn't really play a role in contangion or legacy?
he's firmly locked up during the entirety of cataclysm. he and the other villains torture a guard & he does manipulate another resident to commit a crime to torment batman but during this time he is firmly locked up.
he is *let out* with all the other arkham villains by jeremiah arkham immediately prior to no man's land and is trapped in gotham for the duration of the year, during which he's a pretty minor role because they save him for the last villain captured.
he is captured at the end of no man's land, and sent to the slab.
he is imprisoned in the slab until joker's last laugh in which case he instigates a break out and jokerizes everyone due to being told he's dying of a brain tumor
following joker's last laugh he's left in the slab in solitary confinement for a good deal of time.
at some point he breaks out for batman: hush, following which is war games and then utrh
so in that period, he got out of imprisonment a grand total of 4 times (maybe 5. there might be a random break out involving etrigan in there that i missed). 2 of those times he was *broken out* by someone not him/extenuating circumstances out of his control vs him breaking out. this was a real-time period of *15 years*. so while it seems like he's "in and out of arkham constantly" he's really. not. the system of keeping him in prison *works* for the most part (at least during that period). the times he does get out and attempt to cause harm, he is usually stopped and his victims saved. he doesn't really escape any more frequently than any other villain, or cause more harm than them when they escape at the time his body count wasn't more *excessive* than say, poison ivy or killer croc or two face or the order of st dumas (who infected gotham with a super virus and killed hundreds of thousands of people with ebola) or even ra's al ghul (who also attempted to use ebola to wipe out all of gotham, but was thwarted. the important part is he was going to do it.). so yea, the fact is. while they've jumped the shark with the joker in recent years he wasn't this huge constant menance. he was, for the large majority of it, actually doing his time. idk.
#anyways i know they've jumped the shark#but joker wasn't this huge menancing murderer of millions for a long time.#he was a criminal. who broke out at the same rate as the other criminals.#had a little more personal affect on the batfam but overall wasn't any worse than any of the other villains#as far as breaking our and causing general harm#so yea. if you say only the joker in that time period. there is really no difference between that#and killing anyone else. if the joker deserves to die for his crimes in post-crisis#so does poison ivy. so does two-face. so does killer croc.
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