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#but none of y’all actually give a shit about lesbians so i guess im yelling into a void
tiredyke · 1 year
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every time queer discourse surges on this site everyone is so quick to jump to “it was actually the evil lesbians who divided us” because y’all heard the term “political lesbian” and never bothered to figure out what that meant
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void-official · 5 years
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“Micro-identities/’Mogai/ya’ll literally just be making shit up now” OK. i’m sorry im stuck on this and this is the last i’ll talk about it today bc fuck it. I’m gonna be Real for a second. And it’s going to be awkward, and it’s going to be long, and I’m gonna Lose Follower bc defending micro-labels is Cringe. Whatever. I get it. go ahead and unfollow. The rest of you who actually care. and in the spirit of Pride Month, as someone who feels like they’re almost never allowed to express Pride in who I am? Here we go.
I’m bi. Most of you can probably tell, im not exactly subtle about it.
I’m bi. But
my actual interest in dating or having sex with Anyone has been pretty much negligible for my entire life. I just don’t Care. I never have. Dating and sex seem like a hassle to me and I don’t feel like i’m particularly missing out by not taking part in them. It doesn’t negate my enjoyment of peoples bodies necessarily, nor does it mean I never get crushes on people it just means at the end of the day, my desire to go out there and find people to have sex with and/or date has always been like. really really low. Even if the opportunity was there. And i’ve come to terms with this. I accept this about myself.
There is actually a great deal of overlap between bi and ace identity. all those ‘weird little terms’ like ‘demisexual’ you guys hate so much were originally created for people like me, who feel like they are fundamentally not allowed to call themselves something straightforward like ‘bi’ (or straight/gay/lesbian) without people inevitably screaming at them for Doing It Wrong. So they can describe how they feel in a brief word, instead of having to go through the pains of explaining the complex relationship they have with sexual attraction to every fucking person who asks what their sexuality is.
saying ‘well you should just be able to say bi and leave it at that’ doesn’t actually account for the experiences i have when i Just Say i’m Bi. Even me Just Saying ‘im bi’ i’ve always gotta deal with harassment from people whoget weirdly agressive about -why- i’m not out there fucking or dating the people i claim im attracted to. Am I a prude? a Tease? Just an ‘Acey’ lying for brownie points? Am I Actually Just Traumatized? (They ask in a really aggressive condescending way, like thats actually how you should talk to someone you think is potentially traumatized) But by the standards of this discourse, i’m not allowed to call myself ace either, because then people are going to yell at me that if I experience the tiniest smidgen of sexual attraction or romantic inclination sometimes, or post pictures of sexy video game characters, clearly i cant be that either  I literally can’t win. there is not a thing I can call myself that won’t earn me the ire of LGBT people on tumblr who think they know me and what i should call myself better than I do. And believe me i hate talking about this More than you do. I’d rather just shut up and let people Assume i’m whatever they want me to be sometimes but then mutuals i thought i trusted will inevitably openly make fun of the people who outwardly call themselves demisexual or whatever microlabel is trendy to shit on currently, and usually i bite my tongue cause at the end of the day its Just Words, right? I don’t even use that word, right? Its just words and some words can be interchangeable and not everyone knows what they mean which can feel alienating and unnecessary to people who don’t understand them. I -get- why people ‘cringe’ when they see like 10 terms they don’t understand in someones bio. why do you think i don’t even list anything about my sexuality in mine other than my pronouns?
but I always remember like. just bc that label isnt For Me, it doesn’t mean there might be someone in a similar position to me who doesnt feel comfortable just calling themeslves bi, and prefers the label ‘demisexual biromantic’ who feels like that phrase puts them in a place of peace and contentment, and I wouldn’t argue with them about it. Bc thats their fucking choice. Them being happy with who they are takes priority over my personal opinions of the language they use. same with gender nonconforming people who dont want call themselves trans or nonbinary. Thats fucking Fine. I’m not telling you to have to use the same words as me if you don’t feel like they’re necessary or accurate. I literally don’t give a rats ass what words you use to identify yourself so long as they’re not being used to hurt other people. I just want to be able to have Words, for myself, that describe how I feel, that don’t result in people treating my entire identity like some shitty discourse Meme. And right now I have none. No matter what I call myself, people choose tell me it’s not accurate, or its too complicated.
As for all these shitty fucking posts about people ‘forcing’ young people to take up labels. This. This doesn’t actually happen? (OK I won’t say it doesn’t happen ever on an individual level? but that its not something enforced or encouraged by any group as a practice, and that distinction is necessary, bc saying it happens on a large scale literally implies predatory intentions from a massive group of people instead of members of the group behaving poorly as individuals)
Demisexual people as a whole have literally never told me i had to call myself demi just bc my sense of how i experience attraction might be similar to theirs. Ace people as a whole don’t usually tell people whose lack of sexual attraction is caused by trauma or who havent developed enough to experience sexual attraction that they -have- to call themselves ace. Most Bi or Pan people are fine with the fact that their labels have a lot of overlap and that the line between these things can be murky, they arent actually constantly ready to tear each others throats out over whose terminology is correct. All of this shit is made up by hateful people, or people taking a few examples of poor behavior out of context as an excuse to shit on everyone else, and well meaning people keep falling for it bc it -seems- helpful to be. reactive. I guess? to people you’re constantly told are hurtful to the causes of marginalized people. but im telling you. its not true. literally nobody forces you to call yourself any of these words, they just Exist out there in case you want them, and if you think thats somehow a threat to other peoples identities or to Minors just like, conceptually, for existing, for being Too Specific, im sorry but what other word is there for your reaction than phobic? If an individual derails a conversation about Y to be like “You didn’t include _X_” or tries to force their views on a minor who hasn’t developed a stable sense of identity yet, that is an Individual behaving in an inappropriate manner, not an invitation for you to throw the whole group under the bus. I hate to tell you but if you’re using examples of individuals on tumblr who say stupid shit, everyone on tumblr says stupid shit and butts in conversationally where they’re not welcome. Universally. It’s how tumblr is formatted. Trust me, I have like 4 viral posts going right now.
i’m just tired of it at this point. im not cool with people who stretch to make fun of micro-labels all the time and think they’re being woke allies or w/e to the ‘real LGBTs’.  Even if a lot of the time I personally don’t care for all the labels and wouldn’t choose them for myself, I still feel like If you can’t treat people like individuals and assess their character on a case by case basis, i don’t trust you. I don’t like people who stereotype and LGBT people are not immune to this behavior. Like i don’t say it often but it fucking hurts, and it hurts other people I’m close to who I know have similar complicated identities and struggle coming up w/words to describe themselves that the whole of tumblr LGBT+ will approve of and agree with (clearly an impossibility because there are still people who don’t want bi and trans to even be in there). I might tolerate the constant jokes and not block on principle of knowing not everyone has ingested and thought about this discourse in the same way I have, and im a big tough adult, ultimately i can take it. but inside i know no matter what i call myself, if i were earnest with some of you about how i feel I’d probably be just another ‘special snowflake Delusional mogai creep’ to you, and i can’t deny that fucking hurts to think about. I try not to talk about it openly bc it embarrasses me, bc i dont think my sexuality should have to be battle ground for discourse for people who are supposed to be on my side. But there it is. I think most of this discourse is Trash, and clearly not for the reason most people on here say its trash, not bc theres ‘too many specific words, y’all just be Making Shit Up’ but because so many of you are more caught up in the words than the substance of the arguments or the needs of people whose experiences might have a lot of overlap with yours regardless of what word they’re using to describe it.
Anyway. happy pride to LGBTQA+ people who still dont really feel pride in themselves or their identity. I’d say you’re valid, but you don’t need my validation or anyone elses to understand that you’re a person deserving of respect and compassion. You exist as who you are, and you have to come to terms with who that is, regardless of whether or not you feel like you’re accepted for it. if not pride then, settle for confidence in who you are.
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lesbeancats · 6 years
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here’s a proper vent under a readmore so y’all dont have to see my issues with a certain season 7 if u dont want-sorry to mobile users.
OK SO HERE WE GO FIRST OFF: the baiting has been happening since season one/two ish idrk for certain and WE FINALLY, FINALLY GET CONFIRMATION BUT GUESS WHAT!! SHIRO BEING GAY MEANS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING AND HURTS SO MUCH MORE. No one in canon actually CONFIRMED that Shiro was gay, that’s an outside source shoe horned in baby!!!! Without that context of sdcc and that tweet, Adam being Shiro’s FUCKING PARTNER is COMPLETELY GLOSSED OVER. Adam ONLY appears in flashbacks and says jack shit!!!! He dies like five minutes later!!! Thanks for that super REPRESENTATION VLD CREW :)) WE REALLY APPRECIATE SEEING YET ANOTHER DEAD GAY CHARACTER, ESP ON THIS CHILDREN’S SHOW.  Also the AUDACITY of trying to justify YET ANOTHER DEAD GAY CHARACTER with “no representation is safe” IS DISGUSTING. We hear that ALL THE DAMN TIME.
Every interview in the past two weeks about Shiro being gay is fucking TAINTED as well bc it means NOTHING! It’s not explicitly stated by Shiro or any other character! You can praise yourselves ALL you want VLD crew but none of us are impressed!
not to mention its disgusting that shiro is by far the most tragic, the most tortured, and the most unlucky character on this show and U WANNA MAKE THAT SORT OF CHARACTER UR GAY REP? REALLY? THE MAN WHO LOST EVERYTHING? WHO LOST HIS PARTNER, HIS ARM, HIS LITERAL LIFE? THAT U WANTED TO KILL OFF IN S2 PERMANENTLY? YOU WANNA SHOW OFF HOW MUCH U LOVE TORTURING CHARACTERS BY USING THE GAY REP, HMMMMM,
Ezor and Zethrid had FAR MORE OF A ROMANTIC IMPLICATION THAN ANY OTHER DUMB SHIP ON THIS SHOW AND U KILLED THEM? AFTER MAKING THEM FALL ALL OVER THEMSELVES TO TORTURE THE PALADINS? THANKS VLD CREW, FROM UR LOCAL LESBIAN Also the episode where they were drifting through space was a FANTASTIC opportunity to fucking TALK about all the shitty things y’all promised would get addressed! Like Keith attempting to sacrifice himself to save Voltron! OR LANCE STRAIGHT UP DYING! but noooo we just got Keith snapping at everyone. But it’s ok :)) bc theyre all FRIENDS :)). And FRIENDS get to yell at each other with no consequences.
and wtf was UP with Keith’s justification for sending Lance home? Shipping aside, those two are FRIENDS!!! and Lance is Keith’s impulse control and right hand man. He trusts Lance in battle to think for him but any situation other than that he’s SUPER ANNOYING???? WTH. 
Speaking of Lance WHAT IN THE GODDAMN HELL WAS THAT? HE’S STILL BEING TREATED LIKE SHIT AND WHY GIVE HIM A SHINY NEW UPGRADE HE’S NEVER GONNA USE IN COMBAT? WHAT WAS THE DAMN POINT
oh btw thanks for showing us u REALLY cant write romance of any kind! the direction a////urance is going in is such a disservice to their characters, to fans of the ship. but keep talking about how “romance isnt really a main concern” clearly it is, if its het! clearly it is if its forced!
what in the goddamn HELL was that whole “acxa showing up to the grave” thing????? Keith had maybe like two conversations with her? the majority of the fandom was waiting to confirm that they were SIBLINGS?
how many GODDAMN TIMES do i have to see pidge’s family issues! thought we resolved this when her dad was rescued! 
im sure i have more to complain about imma leave a positive note bc im tired and drained as hell HUNK FINALLY GOT HIS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AND HE WAS GODDAMN GLORIOUS BLACK PALADIN HUNK DESERVES THE WORLD ANDI LOVE HIM AND HIS ROCK GIRLFRIEND, SHAY. THE ONLY GOOD THING TO COME OUT OF S7 WAS HUNK SHINING LIKE THE BEACON I ALWAYS KNEW HE WAS AND  KOSMO GETTING PETS AND LOVE. 
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