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mischiefmanifold · 2 years
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Hello. I would like to learn more about something and your post about it is the closest I got to "they seem like someone I can talk to learn more about the topic, calmly, because right now, I am confused." Mainly, it's the post that has: "terms like “narcissistic/psychopathic/sociopathic/etc abuse” shift blame from the abuser onto the disorder".
This is going to be long, so I appreciate your time reading and the answers you could provide. Hopefully Tumblr ask system if cooperative today.
The thing is, I know about stigma in relation to mental health and abuse. I know how abuse is a choice affected by many factors. However, I didn't know that the use of " X abuse" as a term has that big of a negative impact. The reason why is because in my head, I treat the "X" in the "X abuse" term as a descriptor based on my understanding of English (not my first language). Of which X describes or narrows down something general. Like "blue ball vs rainbow ball" or "technical support vs customer support". So mainly, in my head it's "X abuse" because it has X(when it's a noun)'s traits. X is an adj. "Xpd" where X describes the PD, which all has a link to when X is treated as a noun. And all of those are different things. Linked because of their connection to the noun, but still distinguishably different.
That's how I've always understood the term whenever I've seen it and how I then used it. So my questions are:
1. Is the "X abuse" term then inherently bad because of the connotation it gained, like how "manipulation" as a word has an evil connotation when dictionary/googling the meaning wise, it doesn't have any moral leanings until intent and context are included in the picture/sentence?
2. If it is then inherently bad, what then is the settled word/s to use that isn't bad? Or what do you advice/suggest be the words to use? Where X is being used as a descriptor/adjective or as a way to narrow down the general term that is abuse?
I understand how it could be harmful especially when posts are getting cross tagged and the like. However, from my meager browsing of the tags (I usually stay on the general CPTSD/etc tag), most of the first things I saw were "X abuse is bad and ableist" vs " X abuse is real" and I see both points, and it's just that from my point of view the conflict is a matter of how the X word is used, given meaning, and understood by people. A blurring of the distinctive line between "WHY" it's being used and "HOW" it is being used.
And once more, from my meager tag checking, almost all I am welcomed with is a "black and white: if you use/not use this term, you're enemy/ally." without any direction or educating on how to actually be able to address two (from my understanding) linked but different things without hurting or dismissing the validity and things being explained by both sides.
I don't want to hurt anyone, but I have learned the hard way that I need to be specific when it's about specific matters to avoid being misunderstood, especially being an ESL person.
Again, I appreciate your time reading through this and the answers you could give to clear my confusion.
In regards to your point about how “X abuse” has little negative impact, let me point you to the “narc abuse” community on Instagram (and also on TikTok and Tumblr).
Here are a couple images I found that have tags for both “narcissistic personality disorder” and “narcissistic abuse”:
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(I would also like to take a look at the username of this account: narcissistic torture)
1. X abuse, when X is a specific disorder (e.g. “narcissistic abuse” or “anxiety abuse”) is inherently harmful because it takes the blame off of the abusers and it implies that the disorder is the reason someone became an abuser. I like your example with manipulation, and I think it could apply here.
2. Emotional abuse would be the correct term, or just abuse. When emotional abuse and “narcissistic abuse” are compared it is seen that they have the same signs and traits. The term emotional abuse is a specifier of abuse, where you could use abuse on its own but choose to put “emotional” in front of it to specify its meaning.
I hope this makes sense, and if you need me to explain more please feel free to ask!
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mischiefmanifold · 2 years
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Thanks for the time and the answer. I apologize if it made you think that when I said impact in "However, I didn't know that the use of " X abuse" as a term has that big of a negative impact." that I meant the impact is little. What my point was more on the matter of myself not being aware of the size of impact, hence my surprise at the vehemence of these kind of posts when I browsed the tags.
The confirmation that the "manipulation" example applies to this helped on my understanding of why and how this came to be. Oh, the mention of how emotional abuse covers same signs and traits also helped in the understanding.
So far, this gave me some important context on why I see what I see in the tags. Thanks again.
yay, I’m so glad we could help you! thank you for clarifying also :)
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