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You are so funny. Can you ever say Clarke was happy with Bellamy? Show a single moment where she was happy with him. You said she was happy with Cillian which is canon. And that was her crush and fling. When did Bellamy ever make her feel that way? A rebound can do that but there's not a canon moment where she was happy and in peace with Bellamy. There never will be too. If you open your eyes you will see but you refuse it :D
I actually said she was happiest before the show started. 
She’s not “happy” and at peace with Bellamy because her partnership with Bellamy is about facing the dangers, the enemies, the death, the war, the violence, the horrors, the responsibility, the impossible choices.
Her relationship with Bellamy is not about escaping from all that. Her relationship is about trusting each other, believing in each other, supporting each other, protecting each other, listening to each other, respecting each other, having each other’s back, working with each other, understanding each other, sharing their feelings with each other, helping each other heal, helping each other succeed. 
She LOVES him. He LOVES her. 
He’s the guy who shares the burden of causing genocide so she doesn’t have to bear it alone.
This show is NOT ABOUT HAPPINESS.
That’s why the only way most of the characters can find happiness is to BE OUTSIDE OF THE STORY. Before the story, during the time jump, while everyone else is sleeping, because they run off into the wilds, on sky ring, or when they are ignorant of the horrors.
This story is a TRAGEDY. 
There is NOTHING about Polis that is happy. Pretty yes. Glamorous, yes. Sexy even. Not happy.
It’s about violence, betrayal, imprisonment. LOVE is not automatically happy. In fact, love makes you vulnerable, it opens you up to be hurt, it can be painful. There’s a reason why L said love was a weakness, because it makes you vulnerable. But in that vulnerability you can find strength and meaning and power.
I don’t think I EVER said that Clarke, Bellamy or Bellarke was about happiness. 
In fact, I think the reason why I came up with the “marperly ever after” theory is that I believe Clarke and Bellamy deserve happiness as a result of the narrative, they’ve done so much work and Monty wants them to live a happy life, and THERE IS NO WAY TO BE HAPPY WITHIN THIS STORY. They have to stop trying fix the world and humanity, stop trying to bring peace to their people, stop trying to save everyone and just allow themselves to have love and be happy and raise a family.
That means they have to leave the story, and “die” or sacrifice themselves in some way so they exit. Like Marper did. 
A moment of happiness is not being happy. Having sex can make you happy, oh yes. So can eating food (and we’ve seen Clarke find that happiness.) Getting drunk, (seen it.) Creating art, (seen it.) Spending time with people you love, (seen it.)
HOWEVER, Clarke is not a happy person BECAUSE she chooses to take responsibility for the safety of her people. And the only person who makes her heavy burden lighter is Bellamy. And she does the same for him.
Happiness. lol.
This is not a romcom.
You say I haven’t opened my eyes to this “happy” interpretation of The 100 and that CL is happy, but BC is not????
CL is a TRAGIC love story. There’s nothing about it that did not end in tragedy, even though they had one (1) moment of happiness getting busy in bed. You kinda need that one (1) moment of happiness to act as contrast for the tragedy, because you need to see how, if things had been different, they COULD have found happiness together. But Lxa RUINED that when she abandoned Clarke and her people. The reason why CL failed as a ship was because L as a character had no honor, was power hungry, and believed love was a weakness. If she was a less flawed character, if she had honor-- it would have been different. They would have become friends and equals as leaders, but L was afraid of Clarke gaining power so had to make her a prisoner and trophy. She fucked up. If L wasn’t so power hungry, she could have allowed skaikru to add their significant skills, knowledge and abilities to the strength of her coalition, but she couldn’t allow that. If she hadn’t been so afraid of love, she wouldn’t have turned it into a power game. 
Bellarke is an epic love story that is not over yet. TOGETHER they manage to save their people and humanity again and again. They work together, CL never did, although they tried, but L was too power hungry to share power.
So much nonsense you spout.
You aren’t talking about The 100 at all. And you aren’t talking about anything I’ve ever said. I never said Clarke was happy. I’ve said Clarke was traumatized. But you want to erase her trauma in s3 and pretend she wasn’t L’s prisoner and L wasn’t trying to kill her people and Clarke didn’t care about her people and everything was HAPPY then. You erase narrative canon for this theory. And then you erase my interpretation to say I am wrong about Clarke’s happiness when I never said Clarke was happy in the story. I LITERALLY said she was happiest before everything went to shit. you’re the one saying she’s happy at all, not me.
But ok. Let’s think. WHEN has Clarke found moments of happiness with Belllamy? S1. When they found the guns. Also on unity day when they were flirting. S2 when she saw he was alive and ran into his arms.  At the fire when they woke up and talked about their hard decisions. S3 on the beach when they hugged. s4 when she looked at him sleeping. also when he came to save her life after she was kidnapped in the rover. s4-5 all while she was on earth and every message she sent him (2199) helped her stay sane and remember who she was. s5 when she saw him again and they hugged. in the ship at the end when he invited her to the bridge. seeing the new planet. s6 exploring sanctum. the lanterns scene when she apoligizes, after he saves her and they hug. then the next morning where they have intimate conversations about fears and hopes and struggles.
So like. There are lots of moment for Bellarke where they have a moment of peace and happiness WITHIN the hard life they have chosen, and they’re all about intimacy and feelings and support and trust and connection.
Not about fucking. 
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sirius black is an ISFP; an essay
TLDR: Sirius is an ISFP because he predominantly uses Fi (is very passionate, very attached to his emotions as shown by his anger in POA & OOTP and his empathy for Harry in GOF), and Se (physical excitement is important to him & he manages surviving out in the wild). We also see a little bit of his tertiary Ni (he tends to brood a lot & think deeply when attempting to help Harry through his struggles). He’s introverted (lets James take the lead and serves more of a supplementary role in conversations). So Fi is his dominant function & Se his auxiliary. I also talk about why Sirius doesn’t use Ne, Ni, or Si as upper functions & why the other upper Se types (ESTP, ESFP, ISTP) don’t fit him. 
hey y’all i’m here to do some REAL myers briggs typing of harry potter characters. i’m doing this because i’m SO tired of mistypings that i can’t bear it!!! i have found 0 sites on this internet that accurately type harry potter characters & even if they get some right, it’s almost never 100%. 😢 obviously it’s easier to type people rather than characters bc people are ~REAL~ and also because authors can be inconsistent whilst writing characters, bla bla bla. But JK Rowling, for the most part, is pretty good at creating characters with developed, consistent personalities, and Sirius Black is one of them. 
I’ll begin with typing Sirius’s upper Perceiving function, which is undoubtedly Se, or extroverted Sensing. Se-users perceive the world through their five senses, and thus are very in-tune with their physical surroundings. Sirius is very into physical thrills; his vehicle of choice is a FLYING MOTORCYCLE, enough said. He is easily able to adapt to restrictive physical conditions; while living in Azkaban among the dementors, Sirius is able to transform into his animagus form and literally swim all the way to the mainland. If that isn’t Se, idk what is. Throughout Sirius’s time post-Azkaban and pre-Order, he lives a vagabond life both in Scotland and in other countries. He seems to be able to easily navigate living in the outdoors. That doesn’t mean he’s comfortable (i.e. him living off rats in a cave during GOF), but he manages to sustain himself while simultaneously evading capture by the Ministry. In Snape’s Worst Memory, Sirius is extremely bored after sitting through a long O.W.L. exam, and needs James to do something to stimulate him. And all through OOTP, Sirius’s biggest conflict is a feeling of restlessness due to being stuck in Grimmauld Place. 
One thing I've also noticed about Se’s is that they are very perceptive of people's physical habits, sometimes to the point of intense scrutiny. In Snape’s Worst Memory (SWM), Sirius says he was watching Snape during the O.W.L. and how Snape’s greasy nose was glued to the exam paper the entire time. You can’t get more typical Se bullying than pointing out other people’s unappealing physical habits. In Grimmauld Place, Sirius tells Kreacher off for sneaking away family heirlooms while everyone's cleaning out the house. Being observant enough to notice someone sneaking something is a very typical Se thing to do (I’ve experienced it! .-.).  
So why aren’t Sirius’s upper perceiving functions Si, Ne, or Ni? Ne will be the easiest to explain, because Sirius quite obviously does not use it. Ne’s are usually detached from their surroundings, living in a rich inner world full of spontaneous ideas. Sirius is very much in touch with the environment around him and doesn’t have the playfulness that Ne users have. When he’s speaking, he's very clear and to the point, while Ne’s are abstract thinkers who like to bounce ideas around just for fun.
Sirius is not not an upper Ni user, but as an ISFP, he uses tertiary Ni, which we do see. Again, Sirius is too much in touch with his surroundings to be an introverted intuitive. But he does have a brooding nature, and whenever Harry’s in trouble, like when he’s talking to Sirius in GOF before the first task and telling him about all the odd things happening around him, Sirius quietly absorbs all the information Harry gives him (“He had let Harry talk himself into silence without interruption”) and is thoughtful (though not for the long and generally stays to the point), while trying to figure out what’s going on at Hogwarts ("I don’t know,” said Sirius slowly. 'I just don’t know…Karkaroff doesn’t strike me as the type who’d go back to Voldemort unless he knew Voldemort was powerful enough to protect him”). Though Sirius is generally a pretty brash person who doesn’t act with cautious and constant thoughtfulness as an Ni would, he knows how to utilize his Ni when he needs it. As Heidi Priebe’ says in her article How Each Cognitive Function Manifests Based On Its Position in Your Stacking, “As a tertiary function, Ni manifests as the desire to optimize or perfect upon one’s pre-existing talents or skills.”
Lastly, Sirius definitely does not use introverted Sensing (Si). Si is a past oriented function that stores exact details of past events. Si-users are relatively careful people who “get attached to past ways of doing things,” which is basically the exact opposite of Sirius. Adventure, thrill, and stimulation are his middle names!! 
So we’ve established that he’s an upper Se, which means Sirius could be an ESTP, ESFP, ISFP, or ISTP. 
Sirius is not an ESTP. This might be hard to believe since ESTP surface-level descriptions on the internet (thrill seeking/passionate/drama lovers) seem very much like Sirius. But Sirius isn’t an extrovert and as I’ll describe later on, he doesn’t use Ti. In the Pensieve during SWM, we see the Marauders interacting and James is pretty clearly the loud one, showing off his Quidditch skills to Wormtail and leading his and Sirius’s attack against Snape. James initiates the verbal attack (”All right, Snivellus?”) and James continues to initiate the provocations (”How’d the exam go, Snivelly?”) while Sirius only supplements the conversation (”I was watching him, his nose was touching the parchment…”). Sirius is not the leader, at least not verbally. He attacks Snape physically and is verbally vicious to him, but he’s not initiating the conversation the way James is. It’s hard for me to imagine an ESTP being a side character during a social scene. And we see Sirius being a side character multiple times; in POA, Sirius is bent on attacking Peter, and Lupin is the one who has to explain the backstory of the Marauders to Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Sirius is quieter, wanting to carry out the action and isn’t helping lead the conversation. Again, in OOTP, when we are with Sirius in Grimmauld Place, Sirius is relatively quiet. Yes, he gets angry at Dumbledore for forcing him to stay shut up in the house (honestly fuck Dumbledore), and at Molly for not filling in Harry about the work the Order’s doing. But otherwise, he’s not usually the center of attention. I concede, he’s most likely going through depression, but it still feels natural that he’s not super loud. I feel like an ESTP becoming quiet because of depression would mean that they were going through really severe depression, but it seems like Sirius’s case is more mild. He’s still pretty functional in plenty of other ways. 
Sirius is not an ESFP, and the reasons for this are very similar to those I gave for him not being an ESTP. He doesn’t lead actions and is relatively quiet. And all the ESFPs I’ve met— and I’ve met a variety of them (Most ESFPs I know are warm and ridiculously energetic, but I also know one who is more relaxed and blunt), but I’ve never met one who’s brooding. I just don’t think broody is a trait that can be ascribed to an ESFP, unless they are dangerously depressed. And again, I really don’t think this is the case with Sirius. (If you are or know a broody ESFPs, feel free to comment!) 
Sirius Black is not an ISTP. Sirius’s actions when he is passionate and angry do not mirror those of a dominant Ti and inferior Fe user. A dominant Ti would be unattached to conflict situations unlike a dominant Fi. A dominant Ti usually doesn’t like conflict, and I can only see them yelling or really losing their temper if their boundaries are invaded (i.e. if someone keeps trying to argue with them and won’t give them space). But otherwise, the ISTPs I know generally prefer to be alone when they’re angry. They might lash out by doing something more subtle; using their dominant Ti to bide their time & really plan something evil. Sirius is not like this at all. From the first time we meet him in POA, he is screaming at Pettigrew, ready to kill him without a second thought. He's completely raw in his anger at losing James and Lily to Wormtail's betrayal (“THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE DIED”). He’s completely immersed in his feelings the way a dominant Fi would be-- and I would know because I am one. 
All of Sirius's raw, pent up rage is flowing straight through his body and out of his mouth. As Fe users, ISTPs aren’t internally connected with their feelings enough to be able to express them so rawly. Fe is literally the function that expresses feelings in sync with the people around them. So the way Fe users express feelings always takes into consideration the people they are talking to and the environments they’re in. Sirius has no distance with his feelings at all. 
We see Sirius’s dominant Fi when he’s telling Harry that he “as good as” killed James and Lily. A dominant Fi is can be so deeply connected with their guilt that they equate facts to be on par with their feelings rather than the other way around. In other words, we change up facts a little bit (some people could say this is lying but I prefer to say passion-inspired inaccuracy), to match our feelings about a situation. Sirius is still deeply filled with remorse and sadness at Lily and James’ death and says “I don’t deny it,” when Harry accuses Sirius of killing his parents. 
When Harry recounts his meeting with Voldemort at the end of GOF in Dumbledore’s office, Sirius tightly grips Harry’s shoulders after he reports seeing his parents through Priori Incantatem. This is a gut reaction of intense empathy that is typical for a well-developed Fi. He’s also intent about Harry having rest after going through the ordeal (“We can leave that till morning, can’t we Dumbledore?” said Sirius harshly. He had put a hand on Harry’s shoulder. “Let him have a sleep. Let him rest.”). Fi’s, especially Fi’s who are also Se users are deeply aware of human physio-emotional needs. 
We continue to see Sirius’s Fi when Harry goes to Sirius for advice. ISTPs give logical, concrete suggestions when you tell them your feelings. But ISFPs (especially ones who aren’t the most socially mature) absorb your feelings and give suggestions based on what they feel themselves (i.e. Sirius telling Harry in OOTP after H believes he attacked Mr. Weasley, that Harry simply needs to go to sleep because he’s in shock. Sirius isn’t using logic to help Harry, he’s worried about Harry’s mental health and immediately lectures him instead of giving a logical solution like an ISTP would). Later in OOTP, Sirius earnestly tells Harry, “Look, your father was the best friend I ever had, and he was a good person. A lot of people are idiots at the age of fifteen. He grew out of it.” I repeat, this isn't logic. But then again, we IXFPs aren’t exactly logical when we’re talking about the people we love. And thus, in conclusion, Sirius’s function stack is Fi-Se-Ni-Te...in other words he’s an ISFP through and throughout. 
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