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astraystayyh · 3 months
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Israel doesn't want to repopulate Gaza, you loveable dummy
Seriously, find one Israeli on this site who'll say otherwise. And no, quoting Ben Gvir doesn't count (assuming you even know who that is) anymore than quoting, say, Rudy Giuliani would count for anything, even though he supposedly spoke for the president of the USA for a time.
Hamas has 136 hostages. Including women, and actual literal babies, assuming they're still alive, that is. This could all have ended weeks ago if they'd fucking returned them. Israeli society would physically march on Benjamin Netanyahu's home and remove him in a coup if the hostages were returned tonight. But as long as they have Israeli people, and are unwilling to negotiate their return, that's an ongoing war crime. Is Israel evil for being a bull in a China shop trying to get back a "mere" 136 innocent civilians? Maybe. But Hamas started this and they can end it, they just don't want to. Please, justify that.
Hello, since you asked for one Israeli, here, I'll give you multiple statements:
Hundreds of activists at an Ashdod gathering in late November called for the reestablishing of Jewish settlements. “Let it be known that you support the appeal to renew Jewish settlement throughout all of the Gaza Strip. The nation is waiting for you”— Yossi Dagan, head of the Samaria Regional Council.
Israel “should fully occupy the Gaza Strip”— Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu, of the far-right Otzma Yehudit party.
An Israeli real estate firm pushes to build settlements for Israelis in Gaza. “Wake up, a beach house is not a dream” reads the ad.
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Israeli Knesset member Limor Son Har Melech posted a video of herself in a boat with other settlers off the coast of Gaza. “Settlement in every part of the Gaza Strip … A large, extensive settlement without fear, without hesitation, without humiliation. This land is the land that the creator of the world gave to us.”
Israeli Settler, Daniella Weiss says Palestinians who live in Gaza, have no right to stay in Gaza.
An Israeli soldier saying that Israelis should start “investing” in Khan Younis.
Also why would the words of Ben Gvir not count? He is an elected minister, his words hold weight and they expose Israel’s clear intent to make Gaza inhabitable for Palestinians so that Israelis could settle in there— by destroying the infrastructures, making the health system collapse entirely, bombing entire residential neighborhood, Israel is trying to ensure that Palestinians wouldn't be able to return back to their land, because there is nothing livable left there.
And I'm glad you bring up all of this ending if the hostages were returned— Hamas tried to strike up a deal for the return of ALL the hostages, in exchange of the release of all Palestinian prisoners. Israel refused. You know why? Because this has never been about hostages and their safety for Israel.
There is a reason why Israel shot its own hostages when it mistook them for Palestinian civilians, waving a white cloth. There is a reason why the IDF called to shoot indiscriminately on Oct. 7, knowing that it could kill some of the hostages too. Because Israel wants to kill Palestinians, to "thin out its population" (or maybe we shouldn't take into account the says and actions of Netanyahu too ://). This is why it targets schools and mosques and hospitals and ambulances and refugee camps. Israel knows that if it does get all its hostages back, then there would be nothing to “justify” its genocide in Gaza (although, as UN Secretary-General said : "Nothing can justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people. The humanitarian situation in Gaza is beyond words")
Israel is the only reason why the hostages aren't fred yet. THEY are unwilling to negotiate the return because they don't want to stop this genocide. What good is a five days ceasefire only for the bombings to return? Do you even realize how psychologically traumatizing it is to have a countdown of when your massacre would resume? The only acceptable deal is for Israel to establish a permanent ceasefire, something that it refuses to do. The only one to blame is Israel.
And you say Israelis would instigate a coup to oust Netanyahu, that's nice, then what? Will you return the land to its rightful people? Will you give back Palestinians their rights unequivocally? Will you call for the dismantlement of Israel that was built on massacres? The reason why Israelis are angry at Netanyahu is rooted in the unresolved hostage situation. Just because you don't support Netanyahu doesn't mean that you aren't a zionist who finds the murder of more than twenty thousands Palestinians justifiable. A young girl had her leg amputated with no anesthesia on the kitchen counter of her home and you talk about “Israel being a bull in a China shop”? You consider the targeted attacks on civilians as careless actions by Israel? It actually astonishes me how inhumane some of you can be.
And here is what Dr. Refaat, who was targeted and murdered by the IDF btw, had to say about this matter:
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Whether it's Netanyahu or someone else, it does not matter because Israel as a whole is an occupation, one built on the bloodshed of palestinians.
And it is funny how you choose to distort history whichever way you like it, to regard October 7th as an isolated instance that happened out of the blue. Hamas didn't start anything, Hamas was created in response to the indiscriminate and careless shooting of palestinian civilians in the first Intifada, that was decades ago. October 7th was a resistance to an ongoing colonization, Israel started this when it displaced and murdered palestinians on 1948. None of this would've happened if Israel did not colonize Palestine. It has been 100 days of this ongoing genocide, wake up and stop deluding yourself into a reality where Israel is the victim.
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summarychannel · 7 months
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Lebanon is being bombed forcefully, and Israel is mobilizing forces on its northern border in preparation for action
Updates on the Al-Aqsa Flood operation presented in this episode of Samri Channel. Starting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who yesterday approved a proposal presented by opposition leader Yair Lapid to form an emergency government, with his participation and that of former Defense Minister Benny Gantz. Lapid justified this matter by saying: “This government will make clear to the world that the people of Israel are united, and we must stand together in the face of the threat.”
We must put politics aside now in favor of an emergency government.” Lapid explained that he met with Netanyahu, and said: “I told him that I am ready to put aside our differences and form a narrow and professional emergency government with him to manage the difficult and complex process that awaits us.” According to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, Netanyahu is discussing with Lapid , and former Israeli Defense Minister Benny and Gantz, raised the issue of forming a unity government, amid shock from the military operation launched by the Hamas movement.  The newspaper said that Yair Lapid and Benny Gantz expressed their willingness to join Netanyahu's government, but Lapid stipulated the dismissal of far-right leaders and ministers Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben Gvir. For his part, Gantz agreed to join the government even in the presence of right-wing ministers. Netanyahu said that he proposed to the two of them to enter into a broad emergency government, citing the joining of former Likud leader Menachem Begin to the government of then Prime Minister Levi Eshkol, on the eve of the 1967 war.
Gantz said that he looks positively at joining a government whose tasks focus on the security situation. Lapid issued a statement in which he explained that Netanyahu was aware that his “extremist and non-functional” government could not manage the war, and stressed that he had no doubt that former Defense Minister Benny Gantz would also participate in such a government. He added that the emergency government "will make clear to our enemies that the overwhelming majority of Israeli citizens stand behind the Israeli army and defense agencies."
On the other hand, Lebanese Hezbollah entered the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The party's media office claimed responsibility for bombing Israeli sites in the Shebaa Farms area in southern Lebanon, while the Israeli army responded by bombing the party's infrastructure in a border area, after a surprise attack launched by the Hamas movement, on Saturday, on towns in central and southern Israel. The Lebanese "Hezbollah" said in a statement on Sunday that the bombing of Israeli sites in the Shebaa Farms "came in solidarity with the Palestinian resistance and the Palestinian people," noting that "Imad Mughniyeh's groups" in the party attacked 3 Israeli sites: "Radar." "Zabdin" and "Ruwaisat Al-Alam", by firing large numbers of artillery shells and guided missiles, pointing out that "the sites were hit directly." In turn, the Israeli army reported bombing Hezbollah's infrastructure, during one of its marches in An area on the border with Lebanon. Israeli army spokesman Avichai Adraee explained in a post on the He added, "The Israeli army is prepared to confront all scenarios, and will continue to protect the security of its residents."
Finally, former US President Donald Trump took advantage of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood to attack Joe Biden, his opponent in the upcoming presidential elections, and the current US president. Where Trump said that Hamas would not have carried out this widespread attack on Israel under the leadership of the United States, and that the lax leadership of Biden, which granted Iran, the main financier of the Hamas movement, $6 billion in exchange for 5 prisoners who hold American citizenship, showed Washington in a position of weakness before the Palestinian factions and made them more daring against them. Israel.
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Ok. I'll admit that this article is from 7 years ago, but Netanyahu is the prime minister still, so I find it relevant. Also the video of Netanyahu stating this is going around twitter again.
It's pretty clearly a statement intended to justify Islamophobia and racism against Palestinians, after all if a former Palestinian nationalist and Muslim pushed Hitler to cause the Holocaust, does that not justify their distrust and hatred? (It does not.) This statement is from BEFORE the right-wing Knesset there is today too. So Netanyahu was fact checked by historians, other politicians, Germany themselves claimed responsibility for the Holocaust. Yet he returns to power in 2022. Ben-Gvir, Smotrich, and others may seem extremist, but we can't dismiss the racist views of Netanyahu because there are worse racists. Dismissing the role of Hitler in the Holocaust to instead pin the catalyst for it on al-Husseini is clearly meant with poor intentions and is not based in reality. Al-Husseini isn't innocent by any means, but he is not the reason the Holocaust happened.
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stantonian93 · 8 months
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Comments made by Israeli National Security Minister, Itamar Ben Gvir, have received international criticism, from both the United States and the European Union. Gvir made comments that the lives of Israeli citizens outweigh Palestinians' right to freedom of movement in the West Bank. These statements make an assumption that any mobilization of Palestinians in the West Bank pose a security threat. The continuation of such comments in my estimation, will damage ongoing normalization talks in the region. The EU brought up once again that the settlements are a violation of international law in denouncing his comments. Gvir and his family reside in the West Bank, a territory that Israel has been leveraging for cheap housing development, at the expense of Palestinian freedom and resources. The response from the Palestinian Ministry of Foreign Affairs was as expected, condemning Gvir for dehumanizing the Palestinian people, inciting violence and destruction, and contributing to the mass persecution of the Palestinian people. I think that the Jewish Power party and their members are not concerned with the priorities of the Palestinians or the legitimacy of their issues. I would hope that there would be representatives more attune and sympathetic to this international crisis that would serve to resolve this conflict, not dismiss glaring issues, and further escalate. It is becoming more and more apparent to me that the dilemma of Israeli settlement in the West Bank is unlikely to be resolved whilst far-right Israelis hold the Knesset.
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