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#eric. as an example. yeah juli and eric do grow closer and eric gets to understand and empathize w juli's conditions
cacaitos · 1 year
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juli is a much more hard character to think in terms of relationships because, if you ask me personally, contrary to kazeki in which the gilbert and serge interact transform each other, their judgements of the other, their presence in the story etc in more or less equal proportions are for themselves the main motor of the narrative, while juli's arc alone overtakes so much of TnS'. like juli's and eric's *relationship* serves in function of juli's arc, but they very well resolved separate from the other.
#txt#like eric's interactions w juli dont change in almost any way his relationship with god so much as in *thomas* did *through*#eric. as an example. yeah juli and eric do grow closer and eric gets to understand and empathize w juli's conditions#but the opposite is not true all that much (may be misremembering) like oscar may have been more important relative#to eric's conflict than juli was. eric is to juli's narrative a vehicle or a physical medium through which to process his grief#his feelings of affection to thomas. the emotional implication of being observed (the judgement of god. expectations of correctness form#family and by extention society. 'being known' and thus being despised or in change worthy of love and all that)#but like all that has less to do with how people or god by that means *actually* percieve him but how he himself does#like him feeling unworthy of gods love or to love is not bc god said it to him in a dream or anyone saying he is bc of being SA'd#by the fact he told practically nobody. and you can argue the weight of homosexuality and how it permeates in all of this.#thomas stance on juli even is categorically loving and unconditional. but as long as it's not juli that allows to be understood#ie engage w the mutal and vulnerating dinamics that *any* sort of relationship entails then he doesnt progress in his arc.#so *allowing* forming genuine relationships to reach self acceptance > the specific character of the person in the relationship#or something like that.#so in those ways is that i say his conflict and not so much like. the origin or manifestation bc their personalities change them#fundamentally. to gilbert's but gilbert and serge's relationship WITH EACHOTHER has as much if not more relevance as their individual#characters. while juli's more introverted (not shy) and well thomas is dead and god has a not-presence so that's. a lively social circle#i guess. oscar and him know not to interfere seriously with the other and so on and so forth.#and it's not like that wildly changed even after his arc lol.
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