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allofeos · 6 years

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First of all, apologies for the long post!

Annoyances with continuity between Chapter 9, Episode Ignis map layout, and overall content disparity.

It’s really jarring when you realize that Prompto and Gladio could’ve easily jumped the debris in the canal to check on Ignis. More-so when you get the loading screen of them in-game across the canal from where the DLC begins.

I circled where the loading screen is (the one saying “Here!”) and jotted out where each major event in Episode Ignis is at. The difference in the altar architecture is frustrating too.

Nothing in the progression makes sense, his costume too for an example. Ignis’ costume was originally only his glasses off, thanks to PS4 save editing users. This was modified in the update in January/February. I’ll go over this again at the end.

That’s without factoring in the in-game time progression too: Chapter 9:

• Noctis at the palace: 10 am / 1000hrs. • Lunafreya cutscene, then Prompto shows up: 1pm / 1300hrs.

• Noctis tries asking Leviathan for her power, gets dumped onto the streets: 2pm / 1400hrs.

• Lunafreya is stabbed by Ardyn, Noctis powered up and hits the altar: 4pm / 1600hrs.

Episode Ignis:

• Ignis is dumped out in the canal through to arriving at the altar: 5pm / 1700hrs.

• Ignis fights Ardyn: 7pm / 1900hrs.

It’s a giant circle, there is no point to gathering the files and it’s a cop-out in the narrative for this and the party splitting up in the area. It literally takes a short bit in the game itself, to get to the bridge, and get across the canal where Ignis was knocked down to.

The insult for injury was after the all but completely irrelevant files (the file for Caligo is pretty bloody close to his Ultimania page!) for Ignis and Ravus, was that NEITHER of them got even a loading screen that did not provide information as a summary of events.

All of the loading screens featuring Ignis and Ravus within the DLC are ALL summaries of the three chapters, and the action for V2. V2, which managed to also rip off Lunafreya as well? We don’t even have mention of Caligo’s actions against Lunafreya within the Dawn trailer, but apparently Jared Hester’s demise is important enough to make a fuss about in Episode Ignis? Surely, there’s a mistake here, given that Jared Hester is in service to the Amicitia line?

Whilst I can agree that Gladio was ripped off in his own DLC, in contrast to Ignis we have more connections for Gladio, and know more of his personal life and family overall. We literally know fuck all about Ignis beyond him being assigned to work at the age of six.

Brotherhood didn’t even cover what it was supposed to for Ignis!

Tabata: Brotherhood: FFXV is a series of ten-minute animations, with five episodes currently planned, that shed light on how Noctis and his pals ended up traveling together. Normally you’d start an RPG by gathering a party. But in FFXV your allies are with you from the beginning. By illustrating how they came together

Ignis isn’t even brought up in another interview on Brotherhood prior to his episode.

Akio Ôfuji: It also helps show that the backgrounds of the characters in there, there are social standings as it were, so for exemple in the 3rd exemple that we just released we can see Gladio’s house, you can compare that to where Prompto lives.

Prompto’s house is actually quite small whereas Gladio lives in a big mansion. So this show that his family is a lot richer, Prompto’s parents they need to work very hard, they both work to support him and they aren’t particularly wealthy. So you can see the different social classes there.

In fact, Ignis’ little shoebox of an apartment isn’t even featured in the Film Collections Box artbook. The Amicitia mansion is, Prompto’s house is, Noctis’ apartment is, Lunafreya’s quarters within Fenestala Manor is as well. (I’m not even touching on the fact that there’s nothing regarding Ravus in the Lunafreya end of Brotherhood, especially given the Reddit Dataminer dug out that they apparently cut a mention of Ravus out of a flashback too in-game).

We don’t learn anything about Ignis beyond his duties in Brotherhood, Episode Ignis despite it being his DLC. We don’t even learn anything about Ravus in Episode Ignis for that matter either.

The only personal tidbits we’ve learnt is that he has an uncle that is an attendant in Parting Ways. Even Ignis’ typical dossier doesn’t give us anything out of the normal. The Official Works expanded on it slightly (Ignis being akin to a family member), and in the aforementioned datamine there was a difference in Ignis’ profile which is pointless if they went with his family being advisers or stewards. Why? Because they never give us any information in regard to Ignis’ family whatsoever beyond the off-hand, barely there nod at his apparent uncle in Parting Ways. We never have any sort of notion of his uncle doing anything of the sort beyond relaying whether or not Regis will be permitting an audience with anyone. This means that whatever role written in his dossier is pointless with this lack of information.

With the new content for Comrades, Royal Edition we have absolutely no development whatsoever about Ignis being in his stated role of royal adviser, tactician, senior adviser to the crown, hand of the king and so-on. Gladio has stepped up into Clarus’ role, Prompto is leading the people, Cor is leading the Kingsglaive now, and Ignis is apparently alive, despite his sacrifice... but cooking I guess? Ignis doesn’t even get a little speech from The Mystic in his part of the Kings of Yore/Knights of the Round battle in the new Chapter 14 content. Gladio, Prompto are apparently attractive, but according to the Hero Highlights, Ignis is impressive for trying! That’s seriously it? Are you fucking kidding me? Really?

The same thing happens in regards to the NPCs talking about the guys, Cor and even Ravus being attractive, but the only off-hand comment that isn’t in regards to Ignis cooking is about him having an expensive notebook and questioning if he’s a spy in the no longer available Assassin’s Festival.

There is no backstory for Ignis, there is no real progression and/or development beyond the blindness and choosing to continue onward. Episode Ignis didn’t show us anything beyond loyalty, brotherhood, cooking, and memes about cooking. All of which we’ve known from the beginning and is in no way, shape or form expanding upon his character.

I am completely on factoring in the content alone (not for fandom-related content), because I do not find nothing but loyalty to be a good basis, particularly given the reasoning in the Official Works is a “secret plan” with no reasoning for it. There’s even a really interesting thought experiment that I think is quite worth a read!

This is also whilst completely remembering comments that were transcribed by multiple fans attending the 30th Anniversary fan event earlier in the year, the ones specifically about Ignis being difficult to write in contrast to Gladio and Prompto. They gave Ignis more screentime in Chapter 1, of which tend to be a cause of complaints from users being annoyed at being interrupted for certain underlevelled tutorial handling, and game-over mechanic prevention with preventing players from driving below level 30.

If we also tally the sidequests and tours off the top of my head: Ignis:

• Cooking tour.

• Missing spectacles tour.

• The only possible sidequest to miss in the base/unpatched game, requires you to be in Chapter 3 and at the Chocobo Ranch to pick it up via NPCs talking, and isn’t possible to complete (see the Disc of Cauthess) due to plot limitations. The quest isn’t even ended by Ignis, but rather Prompto and Gladio talking. Ignis has no comment about it!

• The only new addition is the cutscene after Titan, following the Royal/Windows Editions in March this year.

Gladio:

• Running tour.

• Fishing tour.

• Flowers for Iris tour.

• Cup Noodle quest.

• Scene with Titan.

Prompto:

• Photography tours x3.

• Photo ops.

• Photo op quest in Insomnia.

• Additional scenes at the motel with Noctis.

The main point of likely progression following the events of Chapter 9 is only brought up once in Chapter 14. It isn’t even discussed in Comrades: Departure, in contrast to Talcott.

Ignis? Apparently just pops into existence when Noctis is 5 (or 3 when one considers the repeated timeline error in the Ultimania, recently republished in the Official Works despite being amended within the official in-game dossier), and cooks.

In contrast for the DLC, we didn’t know about the connection between Gladio and Cor with Clarus not being around particularly much within the game. For that matter as well, we didn’t know how Prompto ended up within Insomnia despite his origins either.

However, both tidbits from Gladio, and Prompto’s episodes about the first scar and heritage were actually mentioned in the Piggyback Final Fantasy XV Limited Edition guidebook (ISBN: 1908172983 / 9781908172983). There’s only a bit about Ignis’ duties, and how his hairstyle, glasses were styled as without anything really covering his DLC.

Honestly put, the general feeling seems to be fuck me for wanting to know about Ignis, Ravus in general and have some actual content balance out of a four-man party instead of the current disparity. That goes for all of the bros, just when you tally the actual information up it’s quite clear that Ignis is incredibly lacking.

It’s terrible that with this feeling, that the addition of Ignis with his hair down feels as though it is to make it seem as though there’s a content disparity in Ignis’ favour, when both he and Gladio were all but ripped off with their unlockable costumes.

However, unlike Episode Ignis, Episode Gladio had a unique area, unique bosses. Episode Prompto had a unique area, bosses, a costume for him and Aranea. Ignis didn’t get a unique area, new bosses, new costume beyond glasses which are not exclusive to his DLC as they have been included within Comrades in contrast to the others. The only new boss was Ravus, and Ardyn’s content is no longer exclusive as it has been utilized to rebalance the main game fight for Ardyn.

Ignis didn’t even get a new weapon model in contrast to the other two. According to the Reddit datamine, he did have different daggers originally, but why this was scrapped no one knows.

On the overall, Episode Ignis doesn’t fulfill the initial marketing for it:

And this is on the overall why it fails in multiple ways for covering Ignis properly within his own DLC.

#a: 100% Pure Galdin Sea Salt #Apologies for the long post.#I mean it. An actually long fucking post.#I haven't even hit the end of this

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bascojinn · 7 years

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Episode Ignis Trailer and New DLC

Tabata announced new DLC line up for 2018.

Not in fond of SE decision, FFXV is already fragmented as hell. I want more stuff like 1.16 update, which explains lore within main story without switching via main menu and spending money on something what should be in game since release (*sighs* Episode Ignis).

Seriously, I like how dramatic is trailer, it gives me major 2013 E3 vibes, when everything about this game was so promising, but imagine how differently would be perceived some scenes like Gladio’s outrage in Chapter 10 or Ravus’ death (that’s hilarious, guy got killed twice, before SE hinted the reason why I should care about him being killed as character and not a wasted concept of character) if this content was included from the beginning?

Another problem, which bothers me, is “Master Your Fate” aka multiply endings. FFXV canon is mess and what’s the point of messing it even more with different routes for major events? Instead of wasting resources on some non-canon/alternate things, why don’t make DLC itself more meaty?

But overall I like trailer, I really do, even if it’s a giant mistake to have some hopes in anything FFXV related. This DLC looks like developers fixed a lot of my majors issues with main story.

Despite my pretty low opinion on adult!Noctis, I can’t resist cuteness of kid!Noctis. He is like humanization of baby seal. 10/10 would pat.

Poor Gladio, his Episode is the only DLC without childhood flashback. We’ve got smol Prompto, now Ignis, even new screenshot of little Luna in 1.16, but in Gladio’s DLC we had been listening about adventures of 15 years old Cor and his emotional trauma, while eating Cup Noodles.

Since I started to talk about Gladio... I spent with this guy dozens of hours, I played his DLC, but he never adressed Clarus’ death. Dad who? Mourning him what? Before trailer I wanted to write that I will not be surprised at all if Ravus wouldn’t talk about Luna’s death, because in Final Fantasy XV no one cares about deaths, but there he is - very minor side character, showing more emotions regarding loss of family member in 3 seconds, than Gladiolus during whole game. And this is what I call humilation, not just simple toss onto the car.

Honestly, I hadn’t any particular wishes about Ravus’ role in DLC except my fears that SE would make him the one, who blinded Ignis. Otherwise, It’s almost impossible to write him worse than in Kingsglaive or 13 verse 2. But now my fears vanished and this scene with Luna hurted me more than actual Luna’s death fight me. From what I’ve seen writers finally find balance between main character and guest without turning DLC into Episode Cor or Prompto and walking exposition girl. I really hope they found it.

Looking at how Ravus MT arm is infused with electricity... what if he died from short circuit in 13 verse 2? The real answer: he died from shame of “muhking” and “thanksgods”.

Ignis is real MVP, but please, SE, add something about his family, anything, which isn’t only about Noctis. People would roast me for this opinion, but guy didn’t go far from Luna and only amount of screentime and some basic details like coocking skills saved him from being just devoted Noctis’ extension.

I see what you did here SE with these parallels on key art and Ignis desperate attempt they sacrifised quality of key art for proper trailer to use Ring, but in retrospective it makes me hate Kingsglaive even more, because without developers clarification in interview how anyone would ever think that Ravus tried to use Ring to protect Luna? He was talking about himself and his hatred for Empire, not a single word about Luna. This is how this scene should’ve look.

#final fantasy xv #ffxv #Ignis Stupeo Scientia #Noctis Lucis Caelum #gladiolus amicitia #ravus nox fleuret #Episode Ignis #longread #chocobros #my edits

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singloom · 7 years

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Episode Gladio Wishlist (Spoilers)

Right, the very first Episode and it's set for release at the end of March. Naturally, Episode Gladio focuses on Gladio and we already have some information on it. That it will be combat driven (or something along those line, so plenty of fighting,) he's hanging around with Cor the Immortal and they fight Gilgamesh.

Personally, I have very strong feelings about Gladio in the sense that I find his behaviour very offputting. Don't get me wrong, I've seen Brotherhood, Kingsglaive too, I understand that he (and his sister, Iris) have lost a lot too, like their parents and Jared, and being the King's Shield must be a big, stressful responsibility. You'd want to encourage the man you protect, push them to be as strong as they can too. And it's maybe just the sort of person he is, everyone is different. However, I feel that the way Gladio is presented at times (especially in Chapter 10,) combined with the fact that absent game narrative could have fleshed him out more, can be a deal breaker for some fans. I see such potential in him and I wanted more, but I feel that what I got was someone you'll either love the pants off or who isn't your cup of chamomile tea and sadly for me, it was the latter. I do love a handful of his moments with the Chocobros (his Tour with Noctis where they go fishing, needs more Big Bro like moments like this please.)

While Episode Gladio is set to be more about action whereas Episode Prompto is character driven, I really do hope we get some much needed development for the King's Shield too. It would certainly to be a missed opportunity. You can have character development and being boss too.

Breakdown of my Episode Gladio Things I'd Like to See

WHY HE LEFT. Wagering a guess it's set when he leaves the Chocobros temporarily, but this is really a big deal. A King's Shield parting ways with his King, even if it's for a short time, for no reason other than "I need to clear my head" is really wrong in so many ways. Like, what if Noctis got hurt? Even with the other two there, accidents can still happen. The King's Shield primary duty is to guard the royal booty and, for some unknown length of time, he left. Of his own free will. He does come back and says he feels he sorted his hangups, but really? This is especially jarring behaviour when he's always telling Noct to "man up" and that he needs to face his responsibilities head on. What I want, from Episode Gladio, more than anything is a good, hard look at his reason for leaving, why he left, why he felt he needed to be apart from the others to do it, what being the King's Shield means to him and his relationship with Noctis, if it's because he feels weak after Ravus slapping him down or if he feels disillusioned as Noctis' protector, the works. What I don't want is all this potential juicy development being shut down in favour of simply the "Gladio being boss" hour because we know he's boss in battle. I'd like to see something I've never seen before and with Gladio, given all the mixed feelings I currently have about him, I would welcome it greatly. If the episode ends with no real reason given for his departure, then I'm sorry, but I'm not going to find my feelings about him changing. If anything, it would make him weaker as a character in my eyes. We have conjecture, but it would be good to actually get the reason from him.

As much as I joke about the reason for Gladio leaving being about attending a Cup Noodle convention? Please don't let that be the reason. It was just a joke. ...Please?

How long was Gladio really away for? It's hard to measure it in true game time. The only vague time scale we get is that at least several days pass according to the subtitle in game.

As funny as the whole Cup Noodle thing is (and I don't blame him for being addicted, it's damn delicious,) please don't ignore my previous points about character development and just have a crack about Cup Noodle. If we have character development AND Cup Noodle, that's totally cool. Especially if Cor is into those chips.

Gladio actually talking about his losses in life. I think it would be excellent for him to actually open up about it, especially to Cor, and show he still hurts over it. Losing his parents, losing Jared (the Amicitia family butler, yeah, they kept that real quiet,) his fears about his little sister, Iris, and the Chocobros. Especially Noctis, who he is sworn to. Talking about your feelings isn't a bad thing, Gladio.

Gladio, his duty as the Sworn Sword to his King. This needs to be discussed, especially in the context of him leaving his service albeit for a temporary period of time. I would have thought it was a gross breach of his responsibilities. It's one thing to leave by the order of your King (to protect vulnerable civilians and the like,) but it's an entirely different matter to leave of your own accord just because you're having issues of some sort that you never even bother to clarify when you leave or return. That's why we need context, that's why we need development on Noct and Gladio's relationship and how he wants to proceed from here.

Backstory into his scars. It's clear the second scar came from his time away, so Gilgamesh related? He also has a really big scar on his chest as well as the first scar on his face. Protecting Noctis at some point? Maybe a training related injury? Or something super daft, but he tries to pass it off as a manly fleshwound?

Big Brother moments. From dialogue or flashbacks. This can be about Iris (like in Brotherhood) or even in a symbolic sense with Noctis because that was totally the vibe I got between the two at first. It would really bring heart to his character.

With the presence of Cor, the journey he and King Regis took together all those years ago, more about the Crownsguard, the Kingsglaive or even his title of "The Immortal." For the reputation Cor has, it's a shame he was only in the game a short amount of time. I also think if anyone is going to knock sense into Gladio about his issues and hangups, it's Cor since they both have duties to the Lucian Royal family.

How Gilgamesh plays into the FFXV universe compared to his previous appearances. Could he be the one that scars Gladio further (and be the "other guy" Gladio talks about that got a harder time?)

HAVE GLADIO TALK ABOUT THE CHOCOBROS AND WHAT THEY MEAN TO HIM. THEY'RE A BROTHERHOOD.

MAKE CHAPTER 10 GLADIO MAKE SENSE BECAUSE I CAN'T. Even if you take into account his losses, that he feels bad for what happened at Altissia, about Ignis and all that, it's still horrible behaviour. People suffer from grief and depression differently, so Gladio's highly hostile and antagonistic approach (even if he thinks he's doing the right thing) isn't helping. It's only pushing Noctis away and a contributing factor to the group falling apart here.

Worldbuilding. Worldbuilding is always good.

An explanation of his tattoo that covers his back and arms? Symbolic?

Working on Episode Wishlists for Prompto and Ignis too. What would you like to see in Episode Gladio?

#ffxv #episode gladio #spoilers

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