#i don't like rhaenyra either but i won't hate on emma

[darklinaforever]

You're in the most deep denial on Daemon and that's ok, but always reminds that, the queen eventually gets betrayed somehow. It's like a curse fated to repeat over and over. Jaimie did with Cersei, phisically. Jon did with Dany politically. Daemon won't be different, especially cause that Man is labeled as horny predator, especially in the Show. Ryan is setting up the betrayal since the beginning, but you're too optimist and naive to see it. Mark my words. In the end Daemon will betray Rhaenyra. They need to keep going with victimizing women plotline. HBO always did, always will. Also, they need to push Rhaenycent till the end. It's literally that the core of the series, not Daemyra. Leaks of S2 sounds bad too for them, if you ask me. I'm not going to be delusional, good era ended with episode 8. The worse between Daemyra already happened, to me, cause he was literally killing her, the fact he didn't want to, is not justifying that and even Matt and Emma playing dumb saying they didn't understand the scene, (cause it's clearly a lie) is not erasing that either. Cheating won't be big deal. 🤷 In which season and with who it doesn't matter. He will at some point. I'm just warning you, not hating nor anything. Get ready for the heartbreak.

So...

First of all, Jaime and Cersei are not Daemyra. No comparison to be had there. You want to compare Cersei to someone ? Compared to Alicent. Not Rhaenyra.

Then, the end of the GOT series will not be the same for the books ASOIAF. GOT from season 5 onwards became shit. To say that Jon betrayed Dany to use that in association with Daemyra "treason" is ridiculous. Jon and Dany probably won't even be written like that in books.

Anyway, I don't care about the HOTD series. It does not represent Fire and Blood canon. The two have nothing to do with each other. GRRM say that himself. It's same for GOT and ASOIAF. GOT is not canon. ASOIAF is.

Also, just because Daemon will cheat on Rhaenyra in the series doesn't mean he did it in the book canon. Again, the show is not the book.

Also, Daemon didn't even betray Rhaenyra in Fire and Blood. He literally died for her cause. Defeat her greatest actual enemy / current threat. Aemond. He even kill him in homage to Lucerys by planting Dark Sister in his eye. Daemon died for Rhaenyra, their family and their house. Or is there a betrayal in this ? People have 0 reading skills these days, it's not possible...

Then according to the leaks that I have seen, nothing fundamentally indicates anything bad in relation to Daemyra.

But either way, this show is crap.

Also Daemon is not a predator in the books, even in the Show (Ryan doesn't understand what he wrote). I'm tired of hearing this bullshit.

Just the fact that you call Daemon a predator, that tells me everything I need to know about you reading comprehension, or viewing comprehension.

I'm not in denial about Daemon or Daemyra from Fire and Blood. I know how to analyze a text. (In my opinion, it is very likely that these two cheating stories, especially Nettles, are a huge bullshit. There is no real evidence for Nettles, and we have inconsistencies. Even the story with Mysaria is fishy when you look closely)

That you, anti, buy a life instead of coming to preach your bullshit to me.

I've already said that I don't expect anything from the series. I'm even prepared to be disappointed. Season 1 is already a disappointment and objectively shit.

[ladymorghul]

I know who that team black tiktoker who was mad at Gayle being cast and at team green for not bashing her as well is but to be honest she's one of those users who are always stirring up shit online and, in fact, team black stans on twitter called her out immediately when she made that video thinking she's a green Aemond stan. Also we should remember there are team black Aemond fangirls out there, quite a lot actually? The types who've been writings hundreds of Aemond x OC fics in which he's always betraying his family for Rhaenyra's daughter and Alicent is the worst mother ever who's abusive to him and shit like this. Most of them were as disappointed as the Al*s/Al*smond stans (who're supposedly team green but in fact only care about the ship) and were either saying bad stuff about the actress' looks and or making backhanded compliments that "she's okay but not what I was expecting". Overall, most of the 'hate' the actress got was from them. Alys stans only warmed up to Gayle because they're literally have no other choice but to do so. Targ stans did the same thing when Emma was cast and bashed their looks only to become fans later on. Matt received some pretty awful comments as well from those people. And it's mostly because they expected actors who are conventionally beautiful and set their expectations too high because of those yassified fan arts of the characters in question. Pretty much the same thing is happening with Alys and Gayle because they wanted someone like Jessica Findlay or Katie McGrath. They will stan the actress now however I predict they will slowly drop their support for the character when the show won't make Al*smond the love story they think it is.

yeah, i agree there's been a lot of awful behaviour all around. i, and the anon, were just focusing on team green actors because while someone like matt certainly got their share of hate, they're also a very loved actor with plenty of support and the online medium for someone like him isn't the same as for emily carey or tom glynn carney, y know? the team black fanbase is entirely bigger and very prone to hate on actors or take hate too far and these team green actors, including well known ones such as olivia, don't have the same support as matt smith does, y know? and they deserve to be able to enjoy this experience without the stans taking things too far.

when it comes to team black actors hate, i especially feel bad for emma because they got plenty of fucked up comments that were rooted in misogyny, a lot if not most of them from the same people who now claim they love them.

of course ultimately i feel bad for any actor having negative experience just because of a job they did. and i hope the fandom improves in this but i very much doubt that. i think it will be worse and worse. and like the other anon said i fear how that's gonna reflect on green actors especially.