#i have the same complaints about the choreography with every other disney+ show they put out

[worstloki]

saw someone on twitter say "one of the main characters in a loki show should have been thor odinson, not some random Sylvie or Mobius.

...... It's like a written law"

wdyt do you agree

I don't think it was necessary to make Thor a main character in a Loki show, the same way it WOULD be possible to throw together a Thor movie without having Loki be a main focus.

The issue comes in the quality of the narrative itself, and writing that if evidently without intention to care for (whichever) main character's importance will not work out. Neither the Loki series nor Thor 4 cared about the arc, motivations, history, or continuity of the titular characters beyond trying to make the media marketable.

Overall messaging can add a layer to the impact a story will have. Musical score can be a bonus way to control tone or tie a story together. Supporting cast can be vital to tell a good story. Prioritising their presence over anyone's (especially Loki's) characterisation is what the Loki series suffered from, not that other, original-adjacent characters were there.

[olicityara80-blog]

Hello, how are you? I really enjoyed the season finale and found it to be a strong end to season 2 while its cliffhanger and also Luke’s Batwing début makes me hopeful for season 3.

The only complaints I had with the finale was in regards to Kate exiting after the fantastic performance Wallis Day gave her, her not visiting Alice to say goodbye to her and to tell her what she told Mary about her twin and even though Alice/Beth saved her, and Ryan still blaming Alice for her mom’s death even though Alice did not order it. Otherwise it was well written, felt dark, gritty, intense, high stakes, and very emotional while giving further character growth for Ryan and a final Batwoman vs Batwoman along with the emotional and compelling twin bond between Kate and Beth and also seeing the original trio of Kate, Luke, and Mary all together and later as a foursome friendship with Ryan. Great job.

And thanks for also giving Alice/Beth a proper goodbye with Ocean, who I’d personally like to think of as his ghost.

Thanks also for having season 2 further, but albeit slowly and gradually, integrate the series into the wider universe of the Batman mythos, including but not limited to seeing Lucius’s ghost albeit in silhouette form, and the real Bruce even if he was only in Luke’s mind.

On a side note and while I really like Luke’s suit, some feel that his helmet is a bit too big and also resembles Optimus Prime’s head. I’m personally alright with the helmet although I can see a bit of the resemblance and so maybe it could be redesigned a bit to look more bat like?

Having said all of this, I’d like to request some things I’d like for season 3 which I personally hope you’ll consider, as follows:

Could you please increase the series current budget to either 100 percent close to that of “Superman and Lois” or as close to it, like 95, 90, or 85 percent close, as possible? I’m significantly enjoying the cinematic borderline A List movie feel the latter series has and I believe it’s one of the main reasons it’s an enormous success and getting almost nothing but love. And so I personally think it would be a great idea to integrate that into “Batwoman”.

I don’t know how “Superman and Lois” is being funded. Many have claimed it’s being funded by HBO Max. Someone else claimed its writers are using the same company that Netflix, Disney+, and the MCU use to fund their own programs. I personally don’t have a clear answer but wherever they’re getting their budget from or what agreement they made with whoever to have it, could you please consider doing the same for season 3 and giving it that stunning cinematic, significantly visual impressive, close to an A List movie feel?

And not only the budget but I’d also like to respectfully request that season 3’s choreography, camera movements and angles, and directing also 100 percent mirror that of “Superman and Lois”.

Could you also please have the fight and action sequences to be as intense, brutal, fast paced, strong, and in the viewers faces as in the very beginning of episode 18 of “Arrow” Season 6, the Oliver vs ninjas scene in the first “Crisis On Earth X” crossover episode, episodes 10 and 12 of “Arrow” Season 7 and also that season’s prison arc, and plus Netflix’s “Daredevil”? I very much enjoy those types of action and fight sequences and it’d be fantastic to see them in season 3.

And speaking of which but could you also please consider adding James Bamford and whoever the action, fight, and stunt director was for “Daredevil” to the “Batwoman” crew for season 3 if the two of them are interested and available? I personally think Bamford did an excellent job with the action scenes on “Arrow” and that he, and whoever controlled the “Daredevil” action scenes, would both be great additions to your crew.

In addition to lesbian intimacy scenes, could you please also add an equal amount of hetero intimacy scenes while also giving Luke a girlfriend and having both those lesbian and hetero scenes be as passionate and heated as the ones that were in “The 100”, “Jane The Virgin”, and “Riverdale” but also balancing them out with lovemaking scenes if called for? And in regards to Luke but I’m ready for him to have a love interest and I’m personally leaning towards Luke/Mary.

On a side note but it’d be historical for the Arrowverse if polyamory was not only explored but also as endgame since those types of relationships are rarely explored in fictional media even though I think they’re a major part of the real world. And I think I like the idea of both Luke/Mary and Luke/Stephanie while polyamory would be a different way of exploring it rather than the love triangle idea which has been done in the past.

But if you do give Luke a love interest and potential relationship or relationships, could you please keep his journey as Batwing and growth as a hero more in focus than his love life while having said love life and its development presented in a highly mature, natural, and non-toxic fashion like with Clark/Lois, Jordan Kent/Sarah Cushing, and Steve/Diana [“Wonder Woman”] but with some playfulness, especially the mature aspect if you decide to bring back Stephanie and if Luke were to explore potential feelings towards both her and Mary and how the two women handle it? In regards to the couples I listed but I’m personally unaware of if whether or not there’s a fictionalized version of a highly mature and respectful three-way or poly relationship.

I’d also like to request please that Ryan, and while she doesn’t have to be friends with or even like her, to stop blaming Alice for her adopted mother’s murder. From what I saw and while Alice has done a lot of horrible things, and unless I missed something, it had not appeared to me as though Alice was involved or ordered that particular murder. Instead her gang seemed to have acted on their own and then she came into the apartment and stopped them though it was too late.

Another thing I also hope for, and if Julia returns for season 3, is that Sophie apologizes over her anger towards her in 2x01. I understand why Sophie felt the way she did but personally and with respect found it to be immature and that Julia did not deserve it. Though that’s my opinion.

On another subject but one thing I enjoyed about 2x15 is that the Bat Team conducted a significant amount of smart thinking and great coordination as they worked to help Luke. Such as when instead of the Bat Team twiddling their fingers, Mary quickly put together the serum needed to cure Luke and went on the mission to do so, they called a part time ally to deliver the cure to him instead of bemoaning and giving up over the Crows having him under guard, and when he was framed it occurred to Sophie and Ryan to do all they could to clear his name instead of the team acting like there was nothing they could do.

Plus I also liked the coordination and simultaneous operations they conducted in delivering the serum while working to find the real video to clear his name.

And so I’d like to ask but will you would please consider having the entire Bat Team continue all of that quick thinking, planning ahead, common sense, tenacity, professionalism, and coordination for every episode of next season? Though there’d still be times when things wouldn’t always work out since there’d be villains who’re smarter than them and by no fault of their own.

Regarding Mary’s clinic, I personally support it and her trying to help the city in her own way though there are some other viewers who have a problem with it since it’s illegal and doesn’t seem to require the option of calling the GCPD over bullet wounds. In light of that, could you please consider having her clinic become completely legal next season and with the calling the GCPD for bullet wounds requirement but still keeping it completely free of charge for her patients?

I’d also like to say that you’ve had some interesting rock and roll plus pop music selections for the episodes including for a great many of the fighting sequences. And I also think the respective music selections for the first and last Ryan vs brainwashed Kate moments were pretty good for those scenes while the song for Beth/Alice saving Kate from the water in the finale was a perfect fit for said scene.

Having said that, I’d like to make a request for next season but would it be possible, and if it’s alright with you, for the music selections of all of the upcoming fighting and action scenes in season 3 to be the same type of music style, whatever that particular type of song genre it’s known as, that was used for “Arrow”, “Gotham”, “The Dark Knight” trilogy, and “Daredevil”? It’s just that I’d like to hear some music that matches the dark, gritty feel for “Batwoman” like those other aforementioned programs had for theirs.

Speaking of which but the “Batwoman” theme sounds great and I really, really like Batwing’s new theme. They both scream “Power” and it’d be interesting to me if they combine during scenes when Ryan and Luke fight side by side.

On the subject of Kate’s exit and while I found it to be beautiful and well written, both myself and I believe a great many other fans are very disappointed, and the others upset, that she was written off. For me but with Wallis being such an outstanding actress from what I saw here such as the realism by having her characters show strong emotions, being a highly advanced martial artist in real life and can do her own stunts, I assume also having high levels of endurance since she’d trained for the swimming portion of the Olympics some years ago, and having the look you’d chosen for Kate but also had the familial resemblance to Beth/Alice and Jacob [the green eyes in regards to the latter], she is the perfect choice for the Arrowverse’s Kate.

Plus her being written off also feels to me like the same thing as if Ryan had been written off after all of the character growth and investment that was poured into her.

Having said all of that, and while I don’t know if the higher ups in DC would allow this, I’d like to please pitch a story idea to you and Mr. Berlanti for the back half of season 3 that could hopefully bring her back for said back half and it’d have to do with solving Bruce’s disappearance.

What if Bruce went missing some years ago because he learned of one of the most dangerous and nefarious organizations out there and that they are conducting a years long operation to destroy Gotham and are also responsible for his parents murders. And they either captured him followed by him pretending to submit to them or he decided to approach then pretend to join them?

Either way he’d have been on a deep cover operation this entire time to destroy them from within. Perhaps the Court Of Owls or another evil cabal from the Batman mythos if there’s one.

And so after the first half arc of Ryan and Luke dealing with old and new villains causing havoc with the weaponry used by Batman’s rogues while Luke also battles Tavaroff, the back half would be an arc for Kate and Bruce in that Kate returns by calling the Bat Team and asking their assistance to help her and Bruce stop this cabal and warning that the city is in imminent danger, explaining why Bruce went missing. It would also be revealed that the cabal secretly both funded Alice’s operations and helped build her organization while also organizing and funding Black Mask’s own operations though Roman was aware and was actively working with them and was their chosen and willing champion, his plans being their endgame for the city.

But since the Bat Team stopped it in the season 2 finale, the cabal’s planning something far more nefarious. And first the Wonderland Gang and then the False Face Society were their final tools in softening up Gotham and smoothing the way for the city’s end.

Alice would be infuriated by this since it would turn out that she was once more the puppet of others besides Cartwright and then Safiyah while realizing that everything she did in season 1 was never truly her own but had been preplanned for her by others. This would be the final straw to end all final straws.

And so Ryan, Luke, Mary, Sophie, Stephanie if she were to join the season 3 cast, Alice/Beth, Julia if she returns along with some contacts from British Intelligence connected to her father, Kate, and perhaps even Barbara Gordon/Oracle and her father if they’re allowed to be used all join forces to help Bruce complete his mission and Bruce, Kate, Julia, and Barbara’s primary objective would be to destroy the cabal while Ryan, Luke, Mary, Sophie, Alice/Beth, Stephanie, and Jim’s primary objective would be to protect the city from the cabal’s latest attack.

After which that arc would conclude with Bruce formally giving Ryan and Luke his blessing to continue as Gotham’s protectors and also to Kate and Julia as well if they want to stay and with Kate helping to guide the Bat Team as a mentor figure even though they seem to have grown as protectors on their own. After which he’d go on a new mission which is to find Selina Kyle.

If however the answer is no to that story pitch, could you please consider having the real Bruce appear in recurring flashback scenes as part of Luke’s journey and not just him but Lucius as well? It’d be nice to see more of them and Warren seems to be doing a good job as Bruce.

I also don’t know if one of the Batman rogues appearing next season will be Penguin but if he were to appear, what if Robin Lord Taylor portrayed him once more? I think he made a great Penguin and with the multiverse in existence…….

Also, and back to “Superman and Lois” once more, but someone wrote that they love it because according to them it has, and these are their words, small details, lasting effect, consequences to past episodes, smooth action. And so I’d like to ask if those elements also be incorporated into season 3, though I still hope for the intense action I’d mentioned above.

Also, but could you also please consider doing a shorter season once more like you did with season 2? A shorter season could perhaps keep the series lean and focused while maybe allowing a bigger borderline A List movie level budget to be fully utilized. Perhaps either 17 episodes or if not that but 19 episodes while 18-19 are the two part season finale?

Finally and while I don’t know your plans for Ryan’s love life, but could you please consider having her and Angelique be endgame in the presumably far future? They seem to have a nice dynamic and I like that Angelique has changed.

Those are my requests and wishes and I can’t wait to see season 3, am eager to see Ryan and Luke vs the new villains who’ll use the Batman rogues weapons, and look forward to hopefully the Luke vs Tavaroff rematch. I’m also curious to see what Sophie’s arc will be moving forward since it originally seemed to move around Kate and the Crows but now they’re both gone while even Safiyah’s also gone for now.

Have a wonderful day Miss Dries.

P.S. I didn’t think of this but in regards to season 3, could you please consider doing a tremendously epic bank scene, like in Snyder’s “Justice League” with Wonder Woman, and also Superman in “Superman and Lois” 1x09, in which either Ryan, Luke, or them both use explosives to burst through the doors and save the hostages from the bank robbers while the camera movements give the heroes a 50 % tremendously fast, and 50% slow, pace as they brutally & powerfully take down the thugs, and with the same or as close to the same budgets for those two scenes ?

Also, a friend told me that the “Daredevil” stunt coordinator that I mentioned above is named Phillipe J. Silvera.

[shslshortie]

Okay I'm going to make a post because I can't deal with everything that got asked/shat out my way

I am sorry for this rant, but I am legit ready to leave tumblr again. Like I forgot why I hated it so much, but lord is this an unhealthy environment for so many reasons. Mainly, because of discourse/call out culture. And I'm obviously not talking about being "PC" or anything, but just being an all around mean spirited person if anyone says anything that either 1) doesn't agree with you/your views/your fandom, 2) if anything is even slightly false or not entirely fact-checked, or 3) goes against most popular opinions without writing an entire graduate-level thesis about why you believe your opinion/view/observation is valid. Like if you want to complain or voice an opinion about anything, or even joke about something that you think is funny, you could very likely almost immediately be called out or even be sent WAVES of hate that usually is completely undeserved. Especially since people are hiding behind a screen of anonymity or at least behind an online persona, they don't think about the person on the receiving end of it. They don't think how their mean spirited comments or backlash could effect them mentally, and they don't even stop to think what else could be going on in their lives. Yesterday, (was it yesterday? I think it was yesterday, but GOD was it a long fucking day if it was) I made some posts after recapping through the Rost. Cup after I watched each medalist's short and long, as well as all the US skaters, big names, and for the men and ladies, almost all 11 skaters honestly. I love figure skating, and NO, unlike a lot of people wrongfully assumed, am not a part of the "fandom" and did not get into it because of YOI. Was a passion reignited from like a barbeque level flame to a bonfire with YOI's help? Yes. But would it probably have gone to a similar level with the Olympic season going into full swing? Highly likely. But anyways, I made some posts because I wanted to voice some observations, complaints, and things I thought were funny because tumblr is the only place I ever really rant/voice theories/talk about a lot of my interests, since I don't have any irl friends who are interested in almost half of the things I am. So, tumblr is usually the place that I dump these feelings/thoughts. Sure, one of them was a little off-color, and posted without thinking, but after about an hour (and like 3-4 replies I think), I looked back on it, and realized it didn't need to be posted out there, even if I didn't mean it to be mean. Does this mean I owed every single person who "called me out" for being uninformed, or for being mean, or for being whatever the hell I am a reply? No. Did I know that some things were answered over Twitter, or weibo (sp?) or Reddit, or whatever other gd social media that I don't use? No. Does that man I am uniformed and spreading lies or whatever? I don't think so, and that doesn't make me a fucking villain. I also deleted it, because I realized I was wrong. End of story, part 1. But then, the figure skating fandom found some of my posts/commentary/rants. (god forbid they somehow find this and attack me ALL OVER AGAIN, except for y'all that were part of this whole issue. I hope y'all see this, because it's not like I blocked you. Except for one tumblr user who blocked me because of my post? Like you do you, except don't reblog my post and block me so I can't see what you said, presumably about how I am a terrible person). And apparently 1) if you insult/don't like/say Y***** H**** didn't do his best/were disappointed in him, or if you like the person who won over him more... Then you deserve to die. And 2) if you even make a post about YOI or other anime, you are a fake fan who knows nothing. And 3) even mirroring almost the exact words of sports (specifically figure skating) commentators in your posts means nothing? Like it OBVIOUSLY means that you are making up bullshit to hate on skaters that are popular and are misinformed, right??? Or if you say one thing that was similar to an APPARENTLY problematic broadcast group, that nothing (including any commentary from official other broadcasts, because GUESS WHAT: it's hard to find recordings of all of the programs and exhibitions with English commentary, and there are usually 3-4 networks that have it, and SO MANY people upload different ones to YouTube) else you say matters or has any merit. I haven't even read all of the hate mail and submissions I received from this debacle. My mental health can't take it. I literally woke up for school the next morning, saw my notifications and couldn't get myself to stop crying from the anger/upsetness/trauma/depressed thoughts that bubbled up with all of it, and I couldn't even get myself to go to class because I was so shaken. Like visibly, physically shaken, to the point where I couldn't think straight and I literally had tremors from how upset and unstable it made me feel. Tumblr should be a place where I can voice my opinion on something I am passionate about without all this hate. I literally have no other place. Right now, irl, I got dragged into drama (not mine, I swear, I was just a witness and got pulled into the mess) with my honor society, and the girl who started it all is trying to pit the entire organization against me. I can't post anything on my finsta, and God forbid I even tried to post anything in Facebook. (Not like I would). I am already in a very dark place mentally and emotionally because of the trauma this is putting me through, and how unwanted, useless and disgusting everybody is making me feel. I shouldn't be getting that from strangers who just decided to make my life even more miserable on top of it. Legitimately, out of the 30-40 comments/asks/replies/submissions I recieved, only one person even tried to realize where I was coming from or to educate me on what I had done wrong or missed in my analysis. But some of their wording just mirrored all the hate l had recieved, or even other things I had been told in real life that just made me cry even harder and I still can't bring myself to reply to even the person who was civil. My one big point to anyone who sees this is (besides don't be a dick/cyber bully/create and stir up unnecessary discourse) is don't assume that people don't know what they're talking about? Or don't assume that they are fake fans? And don't make people spell every letter of their opinion out for you in a 12 page thesis if it doesn't comply with the tumblr norm. Cuz here are some fun facts about me that I don't normally publicize / post about on tumblr: Yes, I am an anime fan, but Jesus Christ I love/am a huge fan of WAY more than I am in the fandom for. I am honestly only in like 4-5 anime fandoms. Same thing goes for other things I like, such as Harry Potter or marvel. I can like things, A LOT, and be passionate about them without being in the fandom. That doesn't mean I don't like it or I'm not knowledgable on the subject. That doesn't mean that I am an idiot for not knowing a fact/opinion/theory that has made its way around the fandom, that I'm not a part of. YES, I am a HUGE SPORTS FAN. It was legitimately also my fucking career (as a sports reporter/journalist/broadcaster). Do I post on tumblr about Baseball or Football or Hockey? Almost never. Does that make me any less of a fan, or does that make me any less knowledgeable about teams and rules? No. Does that mean that I didn't play/participate in almost every sport growing up? (baseball for 6 years, I still play Intermural football, tennis for 3 years, volleyball for 4, soccer for 1, swimming for like 5 years, I tried track, even karate and some other random stuff.) YES, I AM FUCKING KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT PERFORMANCE SPORTS. I have participated/competed/trained/still watch almost every kind of performance sport. Of course color guard and marching band has been the longest, and the thing I was best at (7 years), but I grew up doing all kinds of dance and I still do lots of dance, as well as TONS of my own choreography. I've done baton and cheer for about 1-2 years each too. I did gymnastics for 4 years — was I very good? hell no. But do I know about it and appreciate it? Yes. SAME THING GOES FOR FIGURE SKATING. I only had like half a years worth of lessons, and like 3 routines that I ever finished and performed with figure skating, but that is because it is an expensive af sport, and I had way more activities and sports that I was better at, more passionate about learning, and were more accessible. BUT did I grow up going to figure skating shows like Disney on Ice or Stars on ice? Did that stop me from waiting in line for hours to get Michelle Kwan and other famous figure skaters autographs? No. Did that stop me from watching almost every single minute of the 2014 and 2010 Olympics? No. Do I still remember watching parts of the 2006 Olympics with my parents and absolutely being ENTHRALLED and wanting to do that too? YES. I still remember watching the 2014 Olympics from my aunt's house when I was staying on a cot in her living room because my mother was in the hospital and CRYING when I saw Y* H* perform, break world records, and win the gold. It was a sense of normalcy and awe because everything else going wrong in my life didn't matter while I was watching these amazing athletes perform. And GUESS WHAT, since I'm not really a part of the Figure Skating fandom (just like I'm not in the musical theatre fandom, or in anything regards to hair or makeup) I don't post about my own hype or plans regarding how excited I am for things to come out. So nobody here on tumblr, or almost ANYONE knew how excited I was for this upcoming Grand Prix season for the first actual competition of the Olympic season. I watched almost every challenger series video, as well as the autumn winter classic and competitions of the like. Even the JGPF events in anticipation. But guess what: I literally have a note on my phone that has all of Team USA's competition schedules, and their scores that they have gotten so far (like at the COR), along with a list of my favorite international skaters, and other new skaters to watch. I was so hype, so excited, and I thought that maybe, since figure skating had boomed in popularity, thanks in part to YOI (but also, helped people be more vocal and open about how much they love the sport even if ex already did) I would be able to discuss the excitement with other people. But no. Instead of being able to say "omg I'm so excited for blah blah blah, I hope they make the Olympic team. But I also love this show concept and this other persons costume, and you also can't count out blah blah blah" and being civil with conversation among other fans... They instead will say " wow you like blah blah blah? But you said this about them, and that offends me so you're wrong, and you forgot this tiny detail from 3 years ago, and you like anime so you OBVIOUSLY only care about figure skating because of YOI. Take your bandwagon fan bullshit away from me and go kill yourself". So now, I am staying the fuck away from the figure skating fandom, I've literally left half of my choreography untouched for almost 2-3 months, don't want to read/finish any of my YOI fanfics, and will probably even have a hard time watching Skate Can this weekend (even though like 6 of my favorite skaters are competing, and I was so excited before). Guess I'll just have to annoy my snapchat friends with videos of skating and me screaming because of skating. Fuck you tumblr, and I doubt I'll make any more original posts outside of APO planning and reblogs in the foreseeable future,